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Lid posted:https://twitter.com/LocalSoundwave/status/1665756861843243008?t=bd-XtMg17rjrpoMxkHi-4Q&s=19 I suspect that Kozlov would trick people into thinking that he's good and then getting exposed horribly the instant he stopped having matches where he could beat the poo poo out of people.
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Kozlov should have been in IGF so he could have had a match so bad that Inoki throws a strop and just stops it before it's finished, like happened with Gallows
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forkboy84 posted:Kozlov should have been in IGF so he could have had a match so bad that Inoki throws a strop and just stops it before it's finished, like happened with Gallows He was. Inoki Genome Federation (2011–2012) On August 30, 2011, it was announced that Prudius would be making his first post-WWE appearance on September 3, working for the Japanese promotion Inoki Genome Federation (IGF) under his new ring name Alexander Kozlov.[2] He made his debut on September 3 at Genome17, losing to Eric Hammer in under three minutes.[36] On December 2, Kozlov defeated Montanha Silva. On May 26, 2012, at the IGF Genome 20, Prudius battled Jérôme Le Banner for the IGF Championship, but lost in three minutes.[37] On July 10, Prudius got a rematch for the title, but lost again to Jerome Le Banner. He has not wrestled since his last match for IGF,[38] electing to focus on work as an actor and stuntman.
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forkboy84 posted:Kozlov should have been in IGF so he could have had a match so bad that Inoki throws a strop and just stops it before it's finished, like happened with Gallows Festus (Gallows) Vs Kozlov ruled.
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Psycho Mantits posted:He was. Hah but of course
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Lid posted:https://twitter.com/aygueyestasfeo/status/1665743202035326976?t=6KBDpa_EF412tTXxT3YqUA&s=19
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Endless Mike posted:I fuckin' hate that this is pretty much true (not that Cody wasn't injured, but that they make up fake injuries to give people time off). Just say they're taking time off! It's fine! People do that sometimes! I dunno if a wrestler saying "I'm back from vacation" has the emotional weight needed to help carry a hot feud E: now I'm picturing a heel champion who's always using time off requests to avoid having to defend their belt, like filing for leaves of absence or pointing out the "use it or lose it" policy for their vacation time Sydney Bottocks fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Jun 6, 2023 |
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Fake injuries also make for good revenge angles when they come back.
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Funnily enough, Cody was able to win even with his real injury, but then on Raw Seth attacked him with a sledgehammer that caused a fake injury that kept him away for 9 months.
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Shot: https://twitter.com/DemonEvilMuscle/status/1666064317412966401 Chaser: https://twitter.com/DemonEvilMuscle/status/1666115408800411648 "You don't KNOW Okada."
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Some guy was really insistent that the new GM's ban on top rope moves in WCW was the right callWCW '93 chat posted:Nope, it's not stupid. It's a way for heels to "break the rules" and get heat. As for lucha, it's probably the worst influence that pro wrestling has seen in the last 50 years. Wrestling is about Good vs. Evil, and grown men settling consequential differences through violence...it is not about syncronized tumbling.
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Do fans of sports like football or american football or basketball or hockey have as much as an obsession about the casual fan as wrestling fans do?
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Dawgstar posted:Shot: I love this insistence that the casual AEW fan does not watch AEW. So far no one announced for forbidden door 2 hasn't had an AEW appearance. Unlike some promotions, AEW has been pretty big about building up "This person is a big deal in <home promotion>" every time they've been loaned talent.
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Shard posted:Do fans of sports like football or american football or basketball or hockey have as much as an obsession about the casual fan as wrestling fans do? No they just care if the team is doing well. Trying to appeal to casual fans is something league executives only care about in other sports Well...some baseball fans can get pretty dumb about rules changes cause of tradition
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It’s just goalpost moving. The thing about wrestling is it’s all vibe and gravitas. You take some buttlands circuit guy, tell me he’s a world class shoot grappler, I’m none the wiser unless he stinks it up. You don’t need the tv show telling you every five minutes if someone is a big deal or not. You just present and the fans will run with it.
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Coolness Averted posted:I love this insistence that the casual AEW fan does not watch AEW. So far no one announced for forbidden door 2 hasn't had an AEW appearance. Unlike some promotions, AEW has been pretty big about building up "This person is a big deal in <home promotion>" every time they've been loaned talent. There's also the fact that even if you don't know who Okada is, or why he's that big of a deal, or even what he does in the ring you do know all those things about Bryan Danielson, and if he feels the need to prove that he's the better wrestler over this other guy then it stands to reason that this other guy must be pretty good.
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The constant demand for everything to be aimed at casual fans as if every entertainment industry isn't aiming square at whatever niche is most likely to spend the most money is a strange one. The biggest names in wrestling are the guys who stopped being wrestlers and are all playing superheroes who nobody but serious comic guys could name before they were in movies. I still don't know what a Black Adam is.
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Every change made to Major League Baseball in the last several years is an abomination.
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MJeff posted:Every change made to Major League Baseball in the last several years is an abomination. I fell out of following it during covid, and just found out recently they added the dh to the National League. Can it even really be called baseball anymore?
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Gonzo McFee posted:The constant demand for everything to be aimed at casual fans as if every entertainment industry isn't aiming square at whatever niche is most likely to spend the most money is a strange one. The biggest names in wrestling are the guys who stopped being wrestlers and are all playing superheroes who nobody but serious comic guys could name before they were in movies. I still don't know what a Black Adam is. It's because WWE stans have been completely conditioned by Vince to crave mainstream acceptance of their preferred company, beyond just "WWE" being synonymous with "wrestling" for nearly everyone in the world who doesn't watch wrestling
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Jun 6, 2023 19:46
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MJeff posted:https://twitter.com/allan_cheapshot/status/1657699853739106305 I always thought this was a particularly sterling example of Vince's insane insecurity for pro wrestling.
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It was a long chat to say "we're just trying to look like a reality show from MTV"
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Dawgstar posted:Shot: I love the seamless shift from denying that the casual fan cares about Okada to gatekeeping someone caring about Okada in an over-casual way.
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Who the heck is Russell?
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TV Zombie posted:Who the heck is Russell? I dunno, I'm at least one of two people who have never seen him
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Shard posted:Do fans of sports like football or american football or basketball or hockey have as much as an obsession about the casual fan as wrestling fans do? Hockey fans get mad about fighting and hits to the head being phased out because the casual fan demands violence and CTE.
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Sydney Bottocks posted:I dunno, I'm at least one of two people who have never seen him He's John Cena???
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MJeff posted:I always thought this was a particularly sterling example of Vince's insane insecurity for pro wrestling. The supremely ironic thing about Vince McMahon is for his lifetime desire for pro wrestling to lose its stigma in the culture no one else on the planet has made pro wrestling more stigmatized than Vince McMahon. Business-wise, sure the company is a legit successful corporation. But culturally, any non-fan who thinks wrestling is stupid or pathetic or trashy believes that because of the whiffs they've gotten of Vince McMahon's product.
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Shard posted:Do fans of sports like football or american football or basketball or hockey have as much as an obsession about the casual fan as wrestling fans do? Baseball fans actively hate them because MLB keeps changing rules so games aren't 1000 hours long so casual fans might actually be interested
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1glitch0 posted:The supremely ironic thing about Vince McMahon is for his lifetime desire for pro wrestling to lose its stigma in the culture no one else on the planet has made pro wrestling more stigmatized than Vince McMahon. Business-wise, sure the company is a legit successful corporation. But culturally, any non-fan who thinks wrestling is stupid or pathetic or trashy believes that because of the whiffs they've gotten of Vince McMahon's product. I forget if it was a goon or someone somewhere else, but someone once wrote about how, every time something supremely embarrassing and cringeworthy on a WWE TV show would happen, it was usually when they were trying to get someone interested in wrestling or when someone walked in the room at that exact moment. I think they also said they'd have been less embarrassed if they'd have been caught watching porn.
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There was a story from a goon where they convinced their bar to put AEW on, and it was the episode where MJF whipped Cody over like, a half hour.
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https://twitter.com/MicahCurtis85/status/1666164705893703682 Definitely don't want to entertain the fans, just go straight to those pins and submits! Also I'm not a big ratings guy, but it looks like Rampage and Dynamite have been pretty steady for months, it's not like the ratings are tanking or anything.
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Mr. Squishy posted:There was a story from a goon where they convinced their bar to put AEW on, and it was the episode where MJF whipped Cody over like, a half hour. Pretty sure this was EMF
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It's not as good as the shows with a 30 year head start therefore its terrible. I just don't get these folks. Go watch the show you like and let me have the show I like.
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Each wrestler is trying to trip up the other one. once tripped they probably plan to do some more wrestling on them. Also, that episode of Rampage had 2 matches all about wrist control right after.
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The money clip
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Sydney Bottocks posted:I forget if it was a goon or someone somewhere else, but someone once wrote about how, every time something supremely embarrassing and cringeworthy on a WWE TV show would happen, it was usually when they were trying to get someone interested in wrestling or when someone walked in the room at that exact moment. I think they also said they'd have been less embarrassed if they'd have been caught watching porn. Can confirm. After hearing me talk about wrestling a friend tuned into RAW on a whim and saw Trish being made to bark like a dog.
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syzpid posted:https://twitter.com/MicahCurtis85/status/1666164705893703682 I feel bad that guy suffered whatever brain injury he's had that makes it impossible to have fun or enjoy things, because I absolutely would use that clip to sell someone on how fun wrestling is
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