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Eh, it mostly worked in Korea
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Jun 7, 2023 14:54
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mobby_6kl posted:Eh, it mostly worked in Korea The only reason Korea was a UN operation was because the USSR was boycotting the security council because China's vote was held by Taiwan.
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Jun 7, 2023 15:25
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Do people think the UN is a world government of some sort? It's weird how people constantly have a go at the UN as if it had power to do things. It's a talking club, that's the whole point.
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Jun 7, 2023 15:32
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Antigravitas posted:Do people think the UN is a world government of some sort? It's weird how people constantly have a go at the UN as if it had power to do things. It's a talking club, that's the whole point. UN could literally authorize use of force against russia right now. The only thing stopping that is russia (and China) being on the SC. See the post above for the one weird trick around that.
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Jun 7, 2023 15:33
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mobby_6kl posted:UN could literally authorize use of force against russia right now. The only thing stopping that is russia (and China) being on the SC. Just one tiny thing stopping the UN. The entire way it is set up.
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Jun 7, 2023 15:37
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Would be pretty good if the idea of permanent members was scrapped tbh. Being able to block everyone with a veto only a few countries have is pretty poo poo. I'm sure countries like Palestine would like this a lot.
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Jun 7, 2023 15:39
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Antigravitas posted:Do people think the UN is a world government of some sort? Yes. A UN-led coup leading to the One World Government is a classic modern American conspiracy theory. Blue Helmets! Black Helicopters! FEMA Death-Camps! Tai posted:Would be pretty good if the idea of permanent members was scrapped tbh. Being able to block everyone with a veto only a few countries have is pretty poo poo. I'm sure countries like Palestine would like this a lot. This kills the UN. The security council, permanent seats and the veto power afforded to them is the only reason the UN lives while the League of Nations died. I don't think Palestine benefits particularly much from that happening. Not saying it would hurt them more than they already are hurting, but who knows. KazigluBey fucked around with this message at 15:43 on Jun 7, 2023 |
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Jun 7, 2023 15:40
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Dead forum user posted:Just one tiny thing stopping the UN. The entire way it is set up.
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Jun 7, 2023 15:43
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mobby_6kl posted:UN could literally authorize use of force against russia right now. The only thing stopping that is russia (and China) being on the SC. See the post above for the one weird trick around that. What would authorizing use of force against russia accomplish that isn't already happening? Do you think everyone else would suddenly invade Russia if they were to do so? That only mattered (and not that much, given how it went in the end) for, like, Iraq, and only because nobody really thought Iraq was an actual threat on any level (no, not even with Colin's BS). Russia does, at least, have actual nukes, whatever their working condition or willingness to actually use them may be, and the sole proven useful trait of having nukes thus far has been 'prevents conventional invasion of your territory'. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to shoot you down, or support Russia (hahahahano), I just don't see what use there would be in that, as that graffiti so succinctly pointed out.
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Jun 7, 2023 15:47
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Carth Dookie posted:Neat. Seems like this was mostly experimental and ended with the Soviet union so not a thing done during Putin's rule unless there's some other info out there. I remember they did successfully use a nuke to seal a gas well blowout, at least once. That was in ussr times well before the test ban treaty though. Sorry don't have a source handy, I wanted to reply before your post got buried. Neat stuff.
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Jun 7, 2023 15:51
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KazigluBey posted:
meh it might as well be US uses it's veto when Isreal decides to be poo poo China uses it for Taiwn and Uyghur concentration camps Russia uses it when goes on joy rides into countries for a murder spree UK et all probably have done it like Libya, Iraq etc e - typo
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Jun 7, 2023 15:52
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KazigluBey posted:Blue Helmets! Black Helicopters! FEMA Death-Camps! Your appointment to FEMA should be finalized within the week. I've already discussed the matter with the Senator. 
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Jun 7, 2023 15:54
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Gee idk UN Peacekeepers could go in and demilitarize the ZNPP and ensure IAEA safety It's only the Security Council stopping stuff like that
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Jun 7, 2023 15:54
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https://twitter.com/savaadaak/status/1666382852080955393
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Jun 7, 2023 15:59
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Victis posted:Gee idk UN Peacekeepers could go in and demilitarize the ZNPP and ensure IAEA safety What exactly do you do when a nuclear armed power says "nah" and starts shooting at the international peacekeeping forces? The system could be improved but ultimately the permanent security council members are there because they already have a de facto veto.
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Jun 7, 2023 16:00
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the holy poopacy posted:What exactly do you do when a nuclear armed power says "nah" and starts shooting at the international peacekeeping forces? You shoot the russians
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Jun 7, 2023 16:02
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Antigravitas posted:Do people think the UN is a world government of some sort? It's weird how people constantly have a go at the UN as if it had power to do things. It's a talking club, that's the whole point.
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Jun 7, 2023 16:03
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This is weird Clancy chat let's stop it here
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Jun 7, 2023 16:05
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  Carth Dookie posted:You used to be able to go on guided tours and there's a bunch of youtube videos of dorks sneaking into the exclusion zone Thanks for reminding me of how a bunch of conscripts decided to play around in said zone and mess with a load of spicy rocks 
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Jun 7, 2023 16:07
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Leopard 3: 
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Jun 7, 2023 16:08
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https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1666352845573029889 Oryx got a shout out from David Petraeus.
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Jun 7, 2023 16:09
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mobby_6kl posted:You shoot the russians Another example of Russians getting blamed when someone stubbed their toe
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Jun 7, 2023 16:10
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Someone - could have been anybody, really - blew up an ammonia pipeline near Kharkiv: https://www.mirror.co.uk/news/world-news/russia-bombs-ruptures-ammonia-pipeline-30174311 https://www.reuters.com/world/europe/russian-forces-repeatedly-shell-ammonia-pipeline-ukraines-kharkiv-region-2023-06-06/
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Jun 7, 2023 16:39
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ESDK posted:Someone - could have been anybody, really - blew up an ammonia pipeline near Kharkiv: I’ll wait for the photo of a boot that’s commonly used by American soldiers.
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Jun 7, 2023 16:50
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ESDK posted:Someone - could have been anybody, really - blew up an ammonia pipeline near Kharkiv: This smells like horseshit to me
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Jun 7, 2023 17:25
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https://twitter.com/KofmanMichael/status/1666477698607087616?s=20 Kofman weighs in. I'm not a military expert, but it matches my impression that a river crossing was highly unlikely in any case.
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Jun 7, 2023 17:26
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beer_war posted:https://twitter.com/KofmanMichael/status/1666477698607087616?s=20 Once the water recedes in a few weeks, it may actually make river crossings easier, or at least open up a bunch of new places where it would be possible.
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Jun 7, 2023 17:31
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I was thinking that didn't bursting the dam also pretty much gently caress up the Russian possibility to support their front in Melitopol from west? So if Melitopol or Berdiansk is where UAF is currently attacking, Russian also did a major fuckup to ensure that their forces in Herson which also could have helped in Melitopol are now floating towards Romania. And in few days when the water starts to recede, they need to asspull new brigades to guard the southern bank to replace the drowned ones, unless they just withdraw to Crimea and leave the area uncontested.
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Jun 7, 2023 17:35
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mobby_6kl posted:A second invasion just hit Kherson the rebuilding has already begun I see
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Jun 7, 2023 17:46
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Canadian troops spotted, first confirmed NATO soldiers
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Jun 7, 2023 17:46
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Deteriorata posted:Once the water recedes in a few weeks, it may actually make river crossings easier, or at least open up a bunch of new places where it would be possible. Youtuber Reporting From Ukraine makes this point too, he says that water upstream where the reservoir was will now recede over the next two weeks and turn the front where an amphibious assault is possible from 70km to 250km.
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Jun 7, 2023 17:55
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deported to Canada posted:Youtuber Reporting From Ukraine makes this point too, he says that water upstream where the reservoir was will now recede over the next two weeks and turn the front where an amphibious assault is possible from 70km to 250km. That's the only thing that makes me consider that it could be Ukraine. But I very very much doubt they would do it. Putting Kherson (which is Ukranian) underwater is not a good look.
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Jun 7, 2023 18:11
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Deki posted:The UN was never meant to reign in world powers. Which is fine, but in that case it doesn't require limitless salaries for six figure, two weeks' work a year, 'risk and security advisory research working group' grifters. Find something else for ambassadors' lovely kids and washed up spies to do.
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Jun 7, 2023 18:17
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The dam break smells like the Russian military seeing the start of the counteroffensive and deciding "well we have to do something to stop it!" as a kind of half baked attempt at appearing to the Kremlin that they are fighting to hold ground at all costs. Though more likely it's just a petty "gently caress you" as they leave the area and won't be around to detonate it later.
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Jun 7, 2023 18:25
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Volunteer Update I'm in touch with the international affairs liason for Dobrobat and have a much more clear picture of how things are run. Kyiv has daily rebuilding groups that organize at a metro station and work for 8 to 10 hours. For my stay in Kyiv I'll need to coordinate my own lodging. For oblasts outside of Kyiv, Dobrobat has a dormitory system set up with trips that run between 1 and 2 weeks. I've set up a gofundme to help cover some of my travel and equipment costs. Can I get a mod sanction to post it here?
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Jun 7, 2023 18:28
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Roblo posted:That's the only thing that makes me consider that it could be Ukraine. But I very very much doubt they would do it. Putting Kherson (which is Ukranian) underwater is not a good look. BTW lovely avatar considering the situation. On the other hand, had Russians been competent just once, and caused only partial collapse the water level below the dam would have risen enough to make amphibious assault west of Nova Kahkova impossible due to those shallow south bank island being just enough underwater that they cant carry vehicles, and cannot be fortified. But they messed it up, caused too much damage to the dam, and washed their entire south bank defense positions to the black sea. Along with all the equipment and manpower they still had stationed there. If the water travels 24 km/h and water rises rapidly to waist level, and keeps rising for the next several days, anything that was parked in the flooded area when the water got there will be written off as a total loss, army vehicles or not. And troops which were abandoned there aren't going to just walk away either. Der Kyhe fucked around with this message at 19:15 on Jun 7, 2023 |
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Jun 7, 2023 18:42
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Roblo posted:That's the only thing that makes me consider that it could be Ukraine. But I very very much doubt they would do it. Putting Kherson (which is Ukranian) underwater is not a good look. Also, the part where it's a massive piece of infrastructure that will take years to rebuild. The kind of thing you own that you would generally prefer to avoid blowing up without a drat good reason.
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Jun 7, 2023 18:59
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Mr. Merdle posted:Can I get a mod sanction to post it here? Hard no on posting the GoFundMe here my friend Karma Comedian fucked around with this message at 19:16 on Jun 7, 2023 |
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Jun 7, 2023 19:10
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Mr. Merdle posted:Volunteer Update No and please don't Caro yourself goon buddy
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Jun 7, 2023 19:12
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Mr. Merdle posted:Volunteer Update Go to r/Ukraine and talk to their mod staff for charitable/volunteer verification. They have a whole process for in-country volunteers. I'm taking the assumption that you're either going regardless or already there, so stay safe
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Jun 7, 2023 19:30
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