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i am skeptical of that news despite having no reason to be skeptical of it but one point in its favor was trump's apoplectic rage on social media after his lawyers met with doj staff earlier this week.
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I hope that they have some evidence that he tried to actually do something with those documents, like transmit them to third parties. If they're indicting just because he had them... well we all know that its a serious crime but half the country will be insisting that its a technicality, and what about Biden/Hillary/Obama/etc. Harder to argue that if he was trying to sell docs to Saudi Arabia or blackmail people.
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Jun 7, 2023 21:44
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ryde posted:I hope that they have some evidence that he tried to actually do something with those documents, like transmit them to third parties. If they're indicting just because he had them... well we all know that its a serious crime but half the country will be insisting that its a technicality, and what about Biden/Hillary/Obama/etc. Harder to argue that if he was trying to sell docs to Saudi Arabia or blackmail people. For the chud demographic he can do no wrong and evidence be damned. It's all fabricated by the deep state. If it's true that Meadows flipped and got immunity and STILL is getting hit with some amount of charges then they have trump dead to rights.
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Jun 7, 2023 21:50
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Herstory Begins Now posted:i am skeptical of that news despite having no reason to be skeptical of it but one point in its favor was trump's apoplectic rage on social media after his lawyers met with doj staff earlier this week. Reality has bullied us so badly that any good news feels like a trap.
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Jun 7, 2023 21:51
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no it's just big news and I want to see it reported from at least one other source, preferably a domestic one
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Jun 7, 2023 21:52
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cr0y posted:For the chud demographic he can do no wrong and evidence be damned. It's all fabricated by the deep state. True, but there are still independents, who are basically republicans with some amount of shame. And some portion of them can be shamed out of supporting Trump he committed *actual* espionage instead of technical espionage.
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Jun 7, 2023 21:53
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If it is true I doubt they'd bring espionage charges if they didn't have an extremely solid case
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Jun 7, 2023 21:53
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Herstory Begins Now posted:no it's just big news and I want to see it reported from at least one other source, preferably a domestic one edit: ^^^ I mean, the search warrant was executed based on suspicion of espionage act violations, so there you go. Rest assured every major US news outlet is currently scrambling to confirm this.
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Jun 7, 2023 21:53
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yes that's what i'm waiting for, others to confirm it
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Jun 7, 2023 21:56
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gregday posted:edit: ^^^ I mean, the search warrant was executed based on suspicion of espionage act violations, so there you go. yeah just saying they're not going to bring charges against a former president and especially one as insane as Trump with weak evidence and rationale that comes down to "we needed to do something!" and trying to make it stick on technical points. If they do it then they have solid evidence and aren't just throwing poo poo at the wall, at least IMO How well it's prosecuted is maybe another issue though...
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Edit: Nevermind this is just Feinberg again, which was already posted. ryde fucked around with this message at 22:03 on Jun 7, 2023 |
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Jun 7, 2023 22:00
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I hope he can still run for office and fracture the rightist vote!
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ryde posted:I hope that they have some evidence that he tried to actually do something with those documents, like transmit them to third parties. To be iron clad I hope he actually transmitted something and was paid for it, that there is a recording of the transaction that includes Trump bragging about how “great this stuff is” and “no one else has stuff like this” and “it’s really valuable” and that the person who paid for it and is likely protected by something like diplomatic immunity is all, “yes I paid for it, it was really useful to the government of X” and there are records of the bank transactions. Hearing that meadows is going to spend a non zero amount of time in custody is great too. Now I have hopes that there are a number of others caught in the net that also will plead out and admit guilt. It’s going to be hard for Trump supporters to be all, “deep state” when the people they were just watching on Fox are all, “Yes I am pleading guilty because I did crimes, your honor.”
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Murgos posted:To be iron clad I hope he actually transmitted something and was paid for it, that there is a recording of the transaction that includes Trump bragging about how “great this stuff is” and “no one else has stuff like this” and “it’s really valuable” and that the person who paid for it and is likely protected by something like diplomatic immunity is all, “yes I paid for it, it was really useful to the government of X” and there are records of the bank transactions. Lol not it won't "They threatened his family, he's only doing this otherwise the deep state would murder his kids"
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cr0y posted:Lol not it won't Yeah, the path is either Michael Flynn or Michael Cohen. If you leave prison a true believer then the deep state railroaded you into a guilty plea. If you still stand by your statement then you are a deep state plant.
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 Wayback posted:Could build walls around Mar a Lago and go all Escape from New York with it.
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Jun 7, 2023 22:29
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pretty sure Donnie does print outs already and has for decades. Also they should just truman show him, same he's supa prez and just having him play with a red button.
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PhazonLink posted:pretty sure Donnie does print outs already and has for decades. Ah, pulling a Salazar.
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For those seeking confirmation: "Trump says he has not been told he’s being indicted in federal investigation". And what more do you need except a denial. https://www.yahoo.com/entertainment/trump-says-not-told-being-200601685.html So either he's lying, in which case he has been told, or he's bending the truth because he's actually only been told that the grand jury is being presented evidence and asked to indict ("but I'm not in a state of being indicted until they decide!"). ps The Independent says there's a T response today. https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/poli...ong/ar-AA1cfOhI PhantomOfTheCopier fucked around with this message at 22:44 on Jun 7, 2023 |
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Jun 7, 2023 22:42
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PhantomOfTheCopier posted:For those seeking confirmation: "Trump says he has not been told he’s being indicted in federal investigation". And what more do you need except a denial. Could also be he got told in an indirect way by one of his toadies too afraid to just say it straight up, and ignored it/forgot about it because he holds them in contempt and only ever half-listens to what other people say.
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PhantomOfTheCopier posted:For those seeking confirmation: "Trump says he has not been told he’s being indicted in federal investigation". And what more do you need except a denial. Presumably they wouldn't tell him he is being indicted until they actually win the indictment from a grand jury, no? Edit: Also, the https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/jun/07/trump-mar-a-lago-classified-documents-investigation seems to disagree, and Donnie is a liar, so idk. Caros fucked around with this message at 22:57 on Jun 7, 2023 |
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Jun 7, 2023 22:52
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PhantomOfTheCopier posted:For those seeking confirmation: "Trump says he has not been told he’s being indicted in federal investigation". And what more do you need except a denial. On the other hand, there was that unhinged Truth Social rant about being treated "unfairly" after his lawyers met with the DoJ, so....
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ryde posted:On the other hand, there was that unhinged Truth Social rant about being treated "unfairly" after his lawyers met with the DoJ, so.... It's Trump though. Every mouth fart he barfs out on social media is unhinged angry ranting.
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"Nobody told me! It was a perfect presidency!" -- February 1, 2025, DJT, from Mar Al Catraz.
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In other news, Trump ally Bannon subpoenaed in special counsel Jack Smith's Jan. 6 grand jury probe quote:Former Trump White House official Steve Bannon has been subpoenaed by a federal grand jury in Washington, D.C., in connection with special counsel Jack Smith's investigation into Jan. 6 and former President Donald Trump's efforts to stay in office, according to two sources familiar with the matter.
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“Harlan Protass” - truly we are blessed.
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En taro Assadar
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I"m not holding my breath for trump ever seeing consequences but Meadows flipping and Espionage Act charges are definitely loving with my general apathy.
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https://www.politico.com/news/2023/06/07/trump-notified-that-he-is-the-target-of-an-ongoing-criminal-investigation-00100920 "Federal prosecutors have notified former President Donald Trump in a letter that he is the target of a criminal investigation, according to a person familiar with the matter." ... You know in case there was any doubt.
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So the grand jury is voting on charges tomorrow. Say they vote to indict, how long until some sort of arrest/trump turns himself kind of thing happens? We talking days, weeks? Please God let it be Friday, be a hell of a way to end a week.
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Meatball posted:So the grand jury is voting on charges tomorrow. Say they vote to indict, how long until some sort of arrest/trump turns himself kind of thing happens? We talking days, weeks? Please God let it be Friday, be a hell of a way to end a week.
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Meatball posted:So the grand jury is voting on charges tomorrow. Say they vote to indict, how long until some sort of arrest/trump turns himself kind of thing happens? We talking days, weeks? Please God let it be Friday, be a hell of a way to end a week. Last time it was just under a week. Maybe Monday or Tuesday. Depends on the judge and scheduling.
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Hate to be the bearer of bad news but Trump is just going to slip out of this the way he slips out of everything. It'll be huge news with damning evidence, then it will just be inexplicably forgotten, and never once brought up again. The government is just not willing to hold him accountable for anything. This should be extremely obvious to everyone by now. None of this will result in any meaningful consequences for him.
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Consider the source, but still.... https://twitter.com/KeithOlbermann/status/1666588445114880002?t=QFpX3Yo92vvJUwle-sKBSQ&s=19
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Trump has a history of leaking rumors about very bad news, so that when just "somewhat" bad news comes out, the impact is deadened and the news cycle has moved on. Any chance that is what is happening here?
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The Bible posted:Hate to be the bearer of bad news but Trump is just going to slip out of this the way he slips out of everything. It'll be huge news with damning evidence, then it will just be inexplicably forgotten, and never once brought up again. I enjoy being a doomer as well as the next guy, but I like to wait a little bit before I jump in with both feet
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The Bible posted:Hate to be the bearer of bad news but Trump is just going to slip out of this the way he slips out of everything. It'll be huge news with damning evidence, then it will just be inexplicably forgotten, and never once brought up again. 
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Jun 8, 2023 00:40
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Sure, what the hell, . If Trump sees a day behind prison walls, ban me.
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The Bible posted:Sure, what the hell, weak toxx condition compared to your original claims
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susan b buffering posted:weak toxx condition compared to your original claims Alright, what would you consider appropriate?
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