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Sy Borg posted:What have I gotten myself into? Set a budget. Don't go over it. Opening packs is fun, but if you get to the point where you're seeking specific players/cards, it usually makes more sense to just purchase the cards you want online rather than opening tons of packs.
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buying sealed packs is just like gambling. i compare it to getting a scratcher. 99/100 you are getting 0/$1, but sometimes!!!!!
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you can also get some bros together with some beers and draft a team. everyone gets some packs, opens one at a time and takes 1 card and sends it around the table then you argue over who built the best team (hi, mtg thread) works best with a box of 90s junk wax you can get for like 
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Jun 6, 2023 20:44
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I have like zero interest in S2. No good Pirates and all the big rookies already had cards in Bowman (which I bought way too much of). I did do the S1 All Aces set, and I see there are new ones in S2... maybe I'll try trading for them.
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Sigh, I don't know how I got down this rabbit hole. My son started little league last year, kinda got into it, this year he started pitching (8U) and I've been taking him to the cages. I bought a helmet and a bat this week for myself so I can go with him, and now caught myself looking at some cards on eBay. There are basically two rookie cards I want, an Ohtani and a Judge. I'm crazy and will probably pony up the bucks for PSA 10 graded. I didn't realize there'd be so many rookie cards to choose from, but it looks like the standard one for Ohtani is a 2018 Topps #700 of him pitching:  And for Judge is a 2017 Topps #287 of him catching a ball:  The Ohtani I can get behind, but that Judge card looks weird to me (wish they got a batting shot), so I'm a bit on the fence about it. Is there a better place than eBay to buy these kinds of things?
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yeah ebay is usually your best bet, just look around for good deals if you really wanna gamble, you could get some 2017/2018 sealed product, but you will pay a large premium. one of my best memories growing up with cards was buying a box of 1987 donruss after mark mcgwire broke the homerrun record.
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GentlemanofLeisure posted:Set a budget. Don't go over it. Opening packs is fun, but if you get to the point where you're seeking specific players/cards, it usually makes more sense to just purchase the cards you want online rather than opening tons of packs. Opening those initial ten or so packs yielded me some nice Phillies variants for Bohm, Harper, and Syndergaard. So I’m going to focus on those players to collect and do the same for series 2. Otherwise I can see this quickly becoming overwhelming. Sy Borg fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Jun 7, 2023 |
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Bank posted:Is there a better place than eBay to buy these kinds of things? I haven’t used it yet, but I have heard great things about COMC.com It has a lot of filters so you can pin down what you want to buy. Apparently if you buy multiple cards it is cheaper because sellers send them the cards to consign. If you want a batting rookie you can get a 2017 Topps Finest for $25 (graded a 9 by CSG though). savesthedayrocks fucked around with this message at 04:37 on Jun 7, 2023 |
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Bank posted:Sigh, I don't know how I got down this rabbit hole. My son started little league last year, kinda got into it, this year he started pitching (8U) and I've been taking him to the cages. I bought a helmet and a bat this week for myself so I can go with him, and now caught myself looking at some cards on eBay. There are basically two rookie cards I want, an Ohtani and a Judge. I'm crazy and will probably pony up the bucks for PSA 10 graded. The modern card market has been cooling for a year now, those PSA 10s are bountiful and will be cheaper in the future. I'd recommend going after a raw or PSA 8 in an ebay auction now and just upgrading to a 10 when the price is a bit more manageable. If Ohtani cards ever go down that is lol.
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Sunk Dunk posted:yeah ebay is usually your best bet, just look around for good deals savesthedayrocks posted:I haven’t used it yet, but I have heard great things about COMC.com Gorman Thomas posted:The modern card market has been cooling for a year now, those PSA 10s are bountiful and will be cheaper in the future. I'd recommend going after a raw or PSA 8 in an ebay auction now and just upgrading to a 10 when the price is a bit more manageable. If Ohtani cards ever go down that is lol.
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I’ve seen it called the “junk slab era” Out of 9291 base Topps Ohtani rookies submitted to PSA for grading, 5610 came back PSA 10 Not saying a PSA 10 wouldn’t be cool, but a high grade early Mantle, Koufax, Aaron, Mays, etc, it never will be
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I think people are just on top of their stuff now. With the internet everybody's buying boxes to "invest" and being really careful in handling, which is why there are so many out there. Way back in the day people didn't have access to all this stuff and many people had no idea their cards were even worth anything. Certainly PSA's grading may be more lenient, but I've seen plenty of people complain online about their stuff being graded 8 or 9 when they thought it was gonna be a 10. Lucky for me, I'm not buying to speculate or make money, I just want a perfect-to-me card to put up for decoration and look at every so often.
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I will be buying a PSA 10 Ohtani rookie as soon as I'm employed again and will not feel a single doubt that it was a bad price. He's the greatest player ever and they aren't making more rookie cards. Prices change, markets change, all you can do is decide if you think a price is fair and drat the torpedoes. That said don't buy singles from a set that dropped yesterday cause those WILL be half price in 2 weeks lol. edit: Also just wanna add that there's a kind of toxic undercurrent in the hobby where a lot of people want to think they're the wise investors while everyone else are the foolish suckers, and will pooh-pooh your purchases no matter what. I'm not saying anyone in this thread is doing that, I'm just arguing with people on Reddit right now about Elly De La Cruz prices (AGAIN, never go on Reddit but honestly it's the best place to trade right now) and it's like drat just let people have their fun. camoseven fucked around with this message at 12:43 on Jun 7, 2023 |
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Bank posted:You had me feeling better about waiting, but then ended up with FOMO.. I don't plan on flipping anything (way too much hassle for me), so I'll probably just wait for a decent price on a PSA 10 on eBay. The fomo with this hobby is unreal and easily the worst part of it. It was so hard to stay disciplined when heritage red inks hit ebay last week. As a general rule I try to stick to .99 cent auctions and ignore buy it now, that usually helps with the rash decision making.
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i can still taste him posted:If you hear people talk about "comps", it's comparison card pricing. 
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I like COMC a lot. I'm mainly interested in cards in the $1-5 range, which can quickly get out of hand if you're paying shipping on each card. With COMC you can buy cheap cards until you've got a nice collection and have them shipped in one batch. I've also done some very penny-ante flipping on the site, where you find a card that is clearly undervalued, buy it, and immediately relist it at a higher price. It's a very low risk way to play the market when players get hot, which would be prohibitively expensive if you were having to pay (and wait for) shipping both ways. Lester Shy fucked around with this message at 20:58 on Jun 7, 2023 |
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Jun 7, 2023 19:54
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 I'm kind of annoyed because I opened this card yesterday and wanted to pick yesterday but Topps wouldn't let me so I picked today. He hit a home run last night of course.
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wandler20 posted:
yea i dunno why they dont let you pick same day, pretty annoying
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Bank posted:I think people are just on top of their stuff now. With the internet everybody's buying boxes to "invest" and being really careful in handling, which is why there are so many out there. Way, way back in the day, of course. Beckett began publishing their magazines in the early 1980s. Their values had taken over card shows and shops completely by the early 1990s. There were a few years in there that everybody had a side hustle of sports cards. In my hometown, there was a little card shop in an insurance agency. A jewelry store in another town had cards too, and I retroactively regret not buying packs of Topps Desert Shield cards there in 1991. Granted, I was a pre-teen lacking in much funds and I recall the packs being $3 each. Early 1990s collectors were just as nutty about thinking they had actual investments on their hands, though the graded stuff these days seems even loonier. I haven't actively collected in some time. I remember stopping in 1995  because the number of sets and companies got way too much. I know it's scaled back since, but I don't see myself ever buying more a few individual cards.Nearly everything I had was junk wax, which I essentially gave to a surviving card shop a few years ago. I forgot about my binders (whoops) and still have them., probably another 5,000 cards or so there. Sunk Dunk posted:if you really wanna gamble, you could get some 2017/2018 sealed product, but you will pay a large premium. one of my best memories growing up with cards was buying a box of 1987 donruss after mark mcgwire broke the homerrun record. The way Donruss cards used to be done, you would have either found 15 McGwire cards in a box or none at all. That went for everybody. That was one of the first non-current packs I bought as a pre-teen. Found Bo Jackson and Will Clark rookies in there and I thought I was so rich. Yeah. RC and Moon Pie fucked around with this message at 22:48 on Jun 7, 2023 |
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To me it was funny going to card shows in the late 90s/early 2000s when eBay was already a thing and have people pricing stuff out of a Beckett as if that was ever based on anything At least with eBay you could look up previously sold prices which showed a pattern of value
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FlamingLiberal posted:To me it was funny going to card shows in the late 90s/early 2000s when eBay was already a thing and have people pricing stuff out of a Beckett as if that was ever based on anything I never really thought about that. I did pull out some of my old becketts from storage the other day: 
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Lester Shy posted:I like COMC a lot. I'm mainly interested in cards in the $1-5 range, which can quickly get out of hand if you're paying shipping on each card. With COMC you can buy cheap cards until you've got a nice collection and have them shipped in one batch. Hmm yeah I had another look at COMC for cards for my son, and they seem to have the best variety and cataloging functionality. Combining shipping seems efficient too. I bought a couple $1 cards from eBay (a Lebron and a Klay Thompson) but it took me a while to find them for so cheap (shipped). I'll probably just put all the other players we like on a list and pick them up. I haven't found anything better than eBay for slabs yet, but I hope to just buy this one card and be done. I've learned my lesson from trying to collect Marvel cards as a kid.
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Comc is great I've bought from them before. The reason why you see so many base cards graded these days is the guarantee of high grades for volume submitters. I can't find the post right now, but I read an article where someone was talking about the offer he got from PSA. I think it was like a 100+ cards a month they were guaranteed so many 9.5s and 10.
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I just won an auction for that Ohtani card so I'm golden now. Hopefully that scratches the itch and I won't be perusing eBay again for more. Makes sense why there are so many of these PSA 10s rolling around. From the looks of it they only have their brand name and they're driving it to the ground. It doesn't matter to me anyway since I'm not "investing" in it, but do like the decorative aspect of having a "PSA 10" slab on the desk. My real investment money is all going into retirement so hopefully that works out at least. Should be fun to check out COMC for some cheap foils the next few days. Planning to surprise the kiddo with a couple sheets of popular players he's been following.
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Bank posted:I just won an auction for that Ohtani card so I'm golden now. Hopefully that scratches the itch and I won't be perusing eBay again for more.. Congrats! Which one did you get? I'm planning on picking up a few raw Ohtanis for a friend's birthday in November. It's nuts how many of his cards from 2018 have the RC badge.
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Gorman Thomas posted:Congrats! Which one did you get? I'm planning on picking up a few raw Ohtanis for a friend's birthday in November. It's nuts how many of his cards from 2018 have the RC badge. This one: https://www.sportscardinvestor.com/cards/shohei-ohtani-baseball/2018-topps-base/ Only because most people considered it his quintessential RC, which I'm sure they're right because there are thousands of these in graded PSA 10 shape (like almost 6k last I checked..). If I were in the market again and didn't care about what was standard, I'd probably get this one instead:  https://www.sportscardinvestor.com/cards/shohei-ohtani-baseball/2018-topps-update-base/ Thought about picking this up raw, but man, it's not that cheap ($18-20 on COMC). At that price my stupid brain would rather buy a slab. I might wait for prices to go down (they will, right????). I watched a highlight reel of him last night and it's pretty incredible how he's been playing.
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Bank posted:I might wait for prices to go down (they will, right????). I watched a highlight reel of him last night and it's pretty incredible how he's been playing. I don’t know the release schedules, but it’d be smart to look for auctions during the off-season and/or right after basketball and football products with new rookies start dropping in the fall.
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“Pulled” a couple fun cards sorting today: That Witt kid everybody is talking about  I hope this guy fucks better than he plays baseball.  Nice rookie card! 
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Are there specific boxes that have a chance to pull the big money cards these days or if you buy a random box/pack is there still a chance to get something great? I’m getting back into collecting after not really caring about it since I was a kid, but I don’t want to be buying packs that are pretty much guaranteed to be worthless if I should be getting something else. I’m interested in NBA and MLB mostly. Obviously I’m not expecting to make money buying packs but it’s fun and I don’t want to be wasting money on junk packs if there’s specific ones I should be looking at.
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The big money cards for NBA come from the high end Panini products. National Treasuress , immaculate, Flawless and Emmenice. Emmenice is ~17K a box https://www.steelcitycollectibles.com/i/2021-22-panini-eminence-basketball-hobby-box Immaculate is ~ 1800 https://www.steelcitycollectibles.com/i/2021-22-panini-immaculate-basketball-hobby-box Flawless is between 10K+ depending on the year https://www.steelcitycollectibles.com/i/2021-22-panini-flawless-basketball-hobby-box National Treasures ~ 4K a box https://www.steelcitycollectibles.com/i/2020-21-panini-national-treasures-basketball-hobby-box Here's an article showing the highest sales https://hoopshype.com/lists/most-expensive-nba-trading-card-sales-ever/
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Most of the boxes will have garbage and once in a while you might hit a jackpot. If you buy a $2 scratcher vs a $25 scratcher the prizes are gonna be way different. Same thing with those boxes. The only reason I thought about buying a box was the thought of dopamine if I catch a winner. I've been trying to just watch people on YouTube open boxes and boxes of cards instead, and it's probably saved me a bunch of money already. Most of those guys only show their wins for views, but if you find someone that gets a bunch of loser boxes you feel better about it.
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