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beer_war
Mar 10, 2005

steinrokkan posted:

Congratulations to comrades at TASS on thewholesale destruction of an American armored division.

quote:

MINSK, June 8. /TASS/. The Kiev regime’s much-hyped counteroffensive is simply disinformation, Belarusian President Alexander Lukashenko said.

"The three days of the ‘counteroffensive’: what we’re observing and the information we’ve received from the Russian president are in complete congruence. Over three days, about three dozen advancing Ukrainian tanks and 120 or 130 infantry fighting vehicles have been eliminated, and, what’s most horrible, more than 2,100 Ukrainians have been killed, with slightly over 70 [fatalities] on this side. This is the result of this attempt at a counteroffensive. Well, I’ve always said this, the counteroffensive is a major piece of disinformation. There is no counteroffensive and cannot be a counteroffensive, but if there is one, then here’s the result from it over three days," he said at a meeting in Minsk with members of the Collective Security Treaty Organization (CSTO) Committee of Security Council Secretaries.

https://tass.com/world/1629511 Oh no. :(

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CannonFodder
Jan 26, 2001

Passion’s Wrench

Roblo posted:

Normally there would be a pretty comprehensive maintenance regime on any infrastructure that important, I doubt Russia was doing any of that so maybe the penstocks seized shut or something. Could be a power failure so they couldn't operate the asset and the backups were damaged. There is a poo poo load that can go wrong in an asset like that.

There's often a way to do an emergency drawdown of a reservoir to reduce levels if needed - that didn't seem to be going on.

We really don't know enough and it's drat hard to tell whether something is malice or incompetence with Russia. Have to admit I haven't exactly looked into what happened in detail - funnily enough I'm at a flooding conference, there are some of the worlds top dam engineers here and they are pissed about what happened in Ukraine.
It could also be malicious incompetence. But with the "It broke somewhere in the middle below the water line" talk, I'm going with malice.


Putin is a piece of poo poo.

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
i bet those members of the CSTO Committee of Security Council Secretaries were quite surprised when they actually met with a mr potato head instead of lukashenka

Shinjobi
Jul 10, 2008


Gravy Boat 2k
If I was Russian I would very much prefer it if Poland did not send troops


It would get nasty

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/07/nato-members-may-send-troops-to-ukraine-warns-former-alliance-chief

Some of this stuff is just not gonna get sourced I can't post sources to the beautiful ukrianian boaters rescuing their compatriots form Nazi occupied territory.

zone
Dec 6, 2016

https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1666853620225126410
https://twitter.com/Flash_news_ua/status/1666858882302455809
Russians threw a monkey rage tantrum again. Explosions were heard in Uman.

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
Yeah I post sources when and where I can, when I don't it's because the source breaks thread rules (especially silly when the source is WaPo lol..) and I like this thread

HolHorsejob
Mar 14, 2020

Portrait of Cheems II of Spain by Jabona Neftman, olo pint on fird

Deteriorata posted:

It would be helpful if you could link to a source for this stuff.

Lol asking the cyberpunk rpg narrator to list their sources

Kchama
Jul 25, 2007

Scrungus posted:

Pretty decent armored column with at least 2 leopards and a bunch of APCs looks like it got smoked :/

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1666727040911908864?s=46&t=DD0vzTZtKt-jEdi0QLOPZw

"There's no evidence of Leopards on fire", maybe read the tweets you're posting.

Waffle House posted:

That is absolutely insane. What the gently caress lmao

WAR CRIME GIGOLO's gimmick is sourcelessly posting every piece of fanfic he can find (and make up). Maybe he finds something true from time to time, but never bet on it.

beer_war posted:

We are only going to see footage from the Russian POV for some time. I get the impulse to know what is going on, alas, it may be a while before we get a full picture of how the counter offensive is going.

If Ukrainians are deploying Leopards, they are inevitably going to lose some.

No poo poo, but that doesn't mean we have to uncritically accept every claim, or claim that they were destroyed using a tweet that outright says "There's no Leopards visibly destroyed in this picture".

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

Kchama fucked around with this message at 20:43 on Jun 8, 2023

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.
Vladimir Putin just bought more land in the metaverse

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
OSIntDefender is also prone to exaggeration and jumping to conclusions, they are also pretty pro-Z.

The good account is OSINTtechnical

TEMPLE GRANDIN OS
Dec 10, 2003

...blyat
putin has a bad complexion and bowel issues his bloodline is weak

Plan R
Oct 5, 2021

For Romeo
https://twitter.com/jackryan212/status/1666824957240680449

Dwesa
Jul 19, 2016

Maybe I'll go where I can see stars
Something seems to be on fire in Berdyansk

https://twitter.com/DefMon3/status/1666899220421304348

https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1666901526369951756

Meanwhile Russia has crab Putin, oh well

Dwesa fucked around with this message at 21:15 on Jun 8, 2023

mobby_6kl
Aug 9, 2009

by Fluffdaddy

Let's go Dark Brandon!

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!

WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:

https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/07/nato-members-may-send-troops-to-ukraine-warns-former-alliance-chief

Some of this stuff is just not gonna get sourced I can't post sources to the beautiful ukrianian boaters rescuing their compatriots form Nazi occupied territory.

Yeah, but that's a misinterpretation of what's being said (and I blame The Guardian for the phrasing here). He's talking about a potebtial possibility if NATO don't provide security guarantees, not that Poland is about to BUHGAWD WITH A STEEL CHAIR into Ukraine.

beer_war
Mar 10, 2005

https://twitter.com/shashj/status/1666886388787163137?s=20

That's a great cover.

the popes toes
Oct 10, 2004

Fairly interesting (and long) interview with shouty goblin man. Seems quite rational. Although his skewing of Shoigu and Gerasimov may not be, from a self-longevity perspective.

https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1666858901197967361?cxt=HHwWgsDSidvV76EuAAAA
https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1666859064742256641
https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1666566611048996864

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

Disco Pope posted:

Yeah, but that's a misinterpretation of what's being said (and I blame The Guardian for the phrasing here). He's talking about a potebtial possibility if NATO don't provide security guarantees, not that Poland is about to BUHGAWD WITH A STEEL CHAIR into Ukraine.

I'm sorry I actually knew this before posting. Yes if NATO doesn't provide security gurantees Poland will step in and ANNEX western Ukraine and OH GOD HES BROKEN IN HALF

EorayMel
May 30, 2015

WE GET IT. YOU LOVE GUN JESUS. Toujours des fusils Bullpup Français.
ATMA cyoa thread where Zelensky announces he is gay and then does a stone cold stunner to Putin to close the seventh seal

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

So then who put up the Prigohzin for president posters we were seeing in belgorod?

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
put zelenskyy in izwf

Runa
Feb 13, 2011


https://twitter.com/woodmuffin/status/289100320183828480?s=20

EasilyConfused
Nov 21, 2009


one strong toad

Kchama posted:

WAR CRIME GIGOLO's gimmick is sourcelessly posting every piece of fanfic he can find (and make up). Maybe he finds something true from time to time, but never bet on it.

It is an appropriate username for someone doing that at least.

Dandywalken
Feb 11, 2014

HonorableTB posted:

put zelenskyy in izwf

please dont lol

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
Counteroffensive updates:




Ukrainian forces advancing on Robotyne, a strategically important village 5km from the frontline.

On the Zaporizhzhia front, Ukraine has deployed bomber drones for the first time. Not drones that drop grenades, like we've been seeing. Actual bomber drones - can't show the video but these drones destroyed three Russian tanks, two BMPs, and an ammo warehouse, in the first action seen by the bomber drones. AFU says they will release more information about them after the war

Russia didn't stop with the Nova Kakhovka dam, they also may have blown the Chornozemne, Peremozhne, and Viazivka dams as well.

HonorableTB fucked around with this message at 22:43 on Jun 8, 2023

Commodore_64
Feb 16, 2011

love thy likpa




HonorableTB posted:

Ukrainian forces advancing on Robotyne, a strategically important village 5km from the frontline.

Is that where Dr. Robotnik lives or something?

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1666858113645924352

lmao

Deki
May 12, 2008

It's Hammer Time!

HonorableTB posted:


Russia didn't stop with the Nova Kakhovka dam, they also may have blown the Chornozemne, Peremozhne, and Viazivka dams as well.


Wow, those are even further in Russia's direct control. Wonder what the excuses will be there?

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
The water level in the Kakhovka reservoir has fallen below the dead point and water intake is now impossible. The water level is already down to 12.5 meters, lower than the dead point of 12.7m that is required to make it possible to draw water to populated areas and for the ZNPP. The nuke plant is still in no danger of meltdown as it has its own cooling reservoir as a backup,

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

We will take the Z movement all the way to the hoover dam

*Falls down stairs*

Deteriorata
Feb 6, 2005

Deki posted:

Wow, those are even further in Russia's direct control. Wonder what the excuses will be there?

They can't beat the drat Ukrainian, so they'll beat the Ukrainian dams.

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006
something that's stuck with me since the first weeks of the war was a photo from an occupied house that was liberated during the retreat from Kyiv, it was "Who gave you the right to live well?" graffittied on the wall. Pair that with the savages looting washing machines, toilets, and everything else they could get their hands on to send back to their own pesthole frontier villes in bumfuck siberia and you get a holistic view of what this war is really about at its core.

It happened again in Kherson too:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63365211

quote:

Down the street we meet Alyona in the kindergarten she used to run. She lived under occupation for two months before having to escape.

She'd been "blacklisted" by the Russians, allegedly because she supplied villagers with food and helped them evacuate.

"They just left a mess. Mess and pain," says Alyona. "When I came here for the first time after liberation, I just stood here and cried. It's really hard."

Alyona says when she first met a Russian soldier, he asked her "who allowed you to live so well?" Her family's wooden house was left nearly empty after the Russians took everything away.

"if we cant have it, no one can, and who said you could live better than us anyway, know your place" *steals toilet to send back to fur trapping hut*

HonorableTB fucked around with this message at 00:00 on Jun 9, 2023

fatherboxx
Mar 25, 2013

HonorableTB posted:

something that's stuck with me since the first weeks of the war was a photo from an occupied house that was liberated during the retreat from Kyiv, it was "Who gave you the right to live well?" graffittied on the wall. Pair that with the savages looting washing machines, toilets, and everything else they could get their hands on to send back to their own pesthole frontier villes in bumfuck siberia and you get a holistic view of what this war is really about at its core.

That photo was found to be not from Ukraine way back

https://rayon.in.ua/news/504874-fotofeyk-pro-napis-okupantiv-na-ruinakh-u-buchi-a-kto-razreshil-vam-krasivo-zhit/amp

It is from 2018 or earlier, made in Russia

WAR CRIME GIGOLO
Oct 3, 2012

The Hague
tryna get me
for these glutes

HonorableTB posted:

something that's stuck with me since the first weeks of the war was a photo from an occupied house that was liberated during the retreat from Kyiv, it was "Who gave you the right to live well?" graffittied on the wall. Pair that with the savages looting washing machines, toilets, and everything else they could get their hands on to send back to their own pesthole frontier villes in bumfuck siberia and you get a holistic view of what this war is really about at its core.

It happened again in Kherson too:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-63365211

"if we cant have it, no one can, and who said you could live better than us anyway, know your place" *steals toilet to send back to fur trapping hut*

This is just so loving depressing.

madeintaipei
Jul 13, 2012

fatherboxx posted:

"Liquidated" was used internally by Soviet security services for targeted killings. Way later Russia started using it in media during Chechen campaigns because "liquidated militants" sounded tacticool and clean, in line with western war coverage newspeak ("insurgents", "surgical strikes", "collateral damage").

The Chekists do so love their deadly little euphemisms. "Without the right of correspondence", that's a good one. Dead motherfuckers generally don't make phone calls or send letters.

the popes toes
Oct 10, 2004

Our intelligence indicated that Ukraine was going to destroy the bridge so we had to strike it first.

HonorableTB
Dec 22, 2006

fatherboxx posted:

That photo was found to be not from Ukraine way back

https://rayon.in.ua/news/504874-fotofeyk-pro-napis-okupantiv-na-ruinakh-u-buchi-a-kto-razreshil-vam-krasivo-zhit/amp

It is from 2018 or earlier, made in Russia

That makes me feel significantly better

Warm und Fuzzy
Jun 20, 2006

fatherboxx posted:

That photo was found to be not from Ukraine way back

https://rayon.in.ua/news/504874-fotofeyk-pro-napis-okupantiv-na-ruinakh-u-buchi-a-kto-razreshil-vam-krasivo-zhit/amp

It is from 2018 or earlier, made in Russia

To clarify, the sentiment was broadcast by Russians with the intent to denigrate Ukrainians, though it was painted on the internet, and not a wall.

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Runa
Feb 13, 2011

It is a sentiment that demonstrably exists, and Russian troops are not shy about showing it

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