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indigi
Jul 20, 2004

how can we not talk about family
when family's all that we got?

exmarx posted:

Mahuta rejects 'new Cold War', says NZ won't have to choose

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/po...oring-our-views

positive shift in rhetoric, but everything else is suggesting closer alignment with the u.s.

[quote]"a challenge to [international rules and norms] has wider ramifications, contributing to poverty levels, and indebtedness, conflict, economic exclusion, and human rights abuses.”[/international]

directly linking China's rise to increasing global poverty and human rights violations doesn't seem that positive

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Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

KomradeX posted:

Nothing bad happen, because they deserved it

:wrong:
RIP to the members of the PLA who gave their lives defending the revolution from reactionary forces.

Cao Ni Ma posted:

Yeah Mulan also bombed in China so I guess china is racist against their own

I think she's proto Mongolian actually.

exmarx posted:

Mahuta rejects 'new Cold War', says NZ won't have to choose

https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/po...oring-our-views

positive shift in rhetoric, but everything else is suggesting closer alignment with the u.s.

I'm reading this as trying to maintain good trade relations with China despite participating in yankee provocations.

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Tankbuster posted:

I mean this isn't something special. The Indian Railways has had a similar system since forever.

for real, and people can even ride on top of the trains in india and pakistan.
remember as a kid the train broke down in the middle of a sugarcane field and people started running out and grabbing some to chew on before the engine got fixed.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Tankbuster posted:

I mean this isn't something special. The Indian Railways has had a similar system since forever.

you also havep eople that come into the train to sell you chai/snacks

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

even the sabziwalla has an app these days

exmarx
Feb 18, 2012


The experience over the years
of nothing getting better
only worse.

the framing in the actual speech is softer, and rejection of the binary east vs west stuff is (at least rhetorically) a walk-back from other recent positioning
https://www.beehive.govt.nz/speech/aotearoa-new-zealands-place-troubled-world-partnership-and-partnering-deliver-international

Jose
Jul 24, 2007

Adrian Chiles is a broadcaster and writer
This is a very nice medal

https://twitter.com/AvalynWu/status/1667004431307792385?t=GMsKe1GmwjCJ38WRozm-mA&s=19

webcams for christ
Nov 2, 2005


lol what a nerd

https://twitter.com/Athenion3/status/1667004707829604352

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

scientific socialist // 21st century communist // democratic-republican// member
@MarxistUnityDSA//@YDSA_//

DiscountDildos
Nov 8, 2017


https://twitter.com/spooky_boi432/status/1667099486953390081?s=20

Tankbuster
Oct 1, 2021
yes, the cpc shouldn't have stabbed the ussr in the back.

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

cool grandmother

Frosted Flake posted:

But who were all of those SF Poppy Eradication Team guys we weren't allowed to talk to...?

:thunk:

everyone knows the best way to eradicate poppies is to gently scratch the pods, thats basically the same as surgical strikes so it makes sense theyd send sf to do it

DiscountDildos
Nov 8, 2017


https://twitter.com/0ddette/status/1667173838507966467?s=20

The Mystery of the Disappearing Seed Guys.

Where did they go?

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

But fr, were the poppy guys DEA, CIA Special Activities Division, JSOC?

I'm sincerely asking - what was the deal with the organization called something like Afghan Counternarcotics Police, who did they report to and who were the western people embedded with them? Is this the same as the Afghan Special Narcotics Force (?) and the National Interdiction Unit (?). I half-remember this poo poo and I know they weren't in Task Force Kandahar or ISAF, so... who where they?

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005
idk, what do you think is going on

https://www.military.com/daily-news/2023/01/10/more-dozen-special-operations-soldiers-center-of-drug-trafficking-probe.html

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012


theres fent in every drug

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

why would china do this

fits my needs
Jan 1, 2011

Grimey Drawer

Frosted Flake posted:

But who were all of those SF Poppy Eradication Team guys we weren't allowed to talk to...?

:thunk:


Frosted Flake posted:

But fr, were the poppy guys DEA, CIA Special Activities Division, JSOC?

I'm sincerely asking - what was the deal with the organization called something like Afghan Counternarcotics Police, who did they report to and who were the western people embedded with them? Is this the same as the Afghan Special Narcotics Force (?) and the National Interdiction Unit (?). I half-remember this poo poo and I know they weren't in Task Force Kandahar or ISAF, so... who where they?

come on man all those dudes are drug traffickers, havent you seen the tv documentary show the mayans?

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007
I think FF is asking if there is a specific branch/organization behind the majority of this or if it's just a hodge podge of "deep state"

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007
I'm curious as well because I've only ever really heard "CIA did drug trafficking" but I got the impression that there was a lot of right hands not knowing what the left hands were doing amongst all of those organizations, especially pre-information age.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

I think FF is asking if there is a specific branch/organization behind the majority of this or if it's just a hodge podge of "deep state"

I don't think this is something you'll ever find out, like do you know which branch of the CIA operated in golden triangle?

FrancisFukyomama
Feb 4, 2019

fart simpson posted:

my experience with it (only outpatient stuff, a few minor urgent care visits after hours) has been pretty good. a lot better than it used to be

costs are subsidized and you can pay out of a national health account that you pay into as part of your social security taxes. out of pocket for unsubsidized medications or if your account ran out of money

things are very electronic and efficient, you book appointments, pay bills, see test results all from an app and waiting times are generally pretty fast

the social insurance is the really cheap subsidized plan, right? are there any barriers to that if you’re a foreigner working there?

ddinkins
Sep 5, 2012

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

I'm curious as well because I've only ever really heard "CIA did drug trafficking" but I got the impression that there was a lot of right hands not knowing what the left hands were doing amongst all of those organizations, especially pre-information age.

I wish Gary Webb were still around. He'd probably know, but unfortunately he shot himself twice in the head almost 20 years ago

Pepe Silvia Browne
Jan 1, 2007

AnimeIsTrash posted:

I don't think this is something you'll ever find out, like do you know which branch of the CIA operated in golden triangle?

that's fine just curious

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

AnimeIsTrash posted:

I don't think this is something you'll ever find out, like do you know which branch of the CIA operated in golden triangle?

Yeah

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

I'm curious as well because I've only ever really heard "CIA did drug trafficking" but I got the impression that there was a lot of right hands not knowing what the left hands were doing amongst all of those organizations, especially pre-information age.

i think every dipshit in the DEA/CIA wanted a share of the cake so there were some internal struggles. and yeah read the Gary Webb book if you havent, you see quite clearly how things work.

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Truga posted:

check this out

lmao

if this is what the goddamn taliban can do imagine a hegemonic socialist order led by the cpc

Ardennes
May 12, 2002
The Zeta cartel was started by Mexican spec ops who studied at the School of the Americas, I am sure there are overlapping responsibilities.

Also, no way the heroin/cocaine/meth/fentanyl trade are all hooked together.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

AnimeIsTrash posted:

I don't think this is something you'll ever find out, like do you know which branch of the CIA operated in golden triangle?

For sure, I understand that part. What I mean is, presumably since these units had names and patches and were operating in the province, because they were on situation maps or mentioned in briefings, and stopped over at or worked out of KAF, there's some sort of paper trail. When the CIA was in the Golden Triangle, they were disguised as an airline, correct? That was the whole point of Air America. No official paper trail because it was a civilian business, wink wink.

But you would expect there to be, at least an official explanation, for groups that were labelled Counternarcotics Police, a Special Narcotics Force, and an Interdiction Team. Were the budgets coming from different sources? Like one was DEA funded, once was DOD, once was State, or was the entire thing a black box?

I hadn't really thought about it other than different teams were apparently paying farmers to grow poppies as part of a reconstruction effort, or burn poppies as a drug eradication effort, at the same time.

It's just very incoherent, I guess is what I'm trying to say.

Pepe Silvia Browne posted:

I'm curious as well because I've only ever really heard "CIA did drug trafficking" but I got the impression that there was a lot of right hands not knowing what the left hands were doing amongst all of those organizations, especially pre-information age.

Exactly.

Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 20:16 on Jun 9, 2023

Bald Stalin
Jul 11, 2004

Our posts

fart simpson posted:

costs are subsidized and you can pay out of a national health account that you pay into as part of your social security taxes. out of pocket for unsubsidized medications or if your account ran out of money

If your account runs out of money, you have to pay for healthcare? Like if you need to see a doctor or go to emergency hospital, you're paying?

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
The Taliban’s Successful Opium Ban is Bad for Afghans and the World

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009


incredible

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019


winning the war against drugs... but at what cost?

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

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slave to my cravings
Mar 1, 2007

Got my mind on doritos and doritos on my mind.

Danann
Aug 4, 2013


quote:

Moreover, replacing poppy with wheat (as has been happening during the current opium ban) is economically unviable for Afghanistan’s rural sector as a whole and especially for households owning limited or no land. Most Afghans don’t achieve food security by growing their own food. Rather, people make ends meet by growing cash crops or producing other agricultural products (e.g., livestock and dairy), which can be sold to provide resources to purchase food needs, or by working other jobs. Wheat is a low-value crop and a poor substitute for opium, though it does serve as a temporary recourse for people who may expect to return to opium poppy later, in particular for landowners whose fields are ample enough to serve their own family’s food needs. Fruits and other tree crops would be more viable substitutes for opium poppy over the long run but require significant time and investments.

this is so neoliberal brain holy poo poo lmao

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

https://twitter.com/SiddiquiZuha/status/1666794281921662979?cxt=HHwWhsC--a-k0qEuAAAA

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

Danann posted:

this is so neoliberal brain holy poo poo lmao

WHO THE gently caress IS GROWING THE WHEAT IF ITS NO ONES ECONOMIC INTEREST TO DO SO YOU GIGANTIC DUMBASS AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

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stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
You know how CIA used the money they made from illegal arm sale to Iran and cocaine smuggling to fund the Contra PMC to overthrow the nicaragua government.

I wonder what government they were going to overthrow with the money they made from the Afghan opium? I wouldn't be surprised if it was Iran.

Or they just used that money to do gene therapy for Kissinger and kept him alive.

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