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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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Danann posted:https://twitter.com/GammonBadge/status/1667287101019136001 Do you think he tried to get this pulled once he saw the columns of Bradleys and Leopards abandoned before they even reached the Russian trenches? quote:As a former tank commander, I can say one thing for certain: Putin’s demoralised conscripts are utterly unprepared for the shock action now hitting their lines. Ukrainian armoured formations are beginning to meet Russian forces in battle, and they are going to pulverise Russia’s defensive lines. I am confident for one simple reason: Ukraine will follow the Western ideology of manoeuvre warfare in a combined arms context, while the Russians will follow Soviet doctrine, relying on attrition and numbers. The Russians will find that the armour of Western tanks is far more resilient than flesh and bone, they will die in great numbers, and they will lose.
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Jun 10, 2023 03:01
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Nix Panicus posted:Ukraine was widely considered the most corrupt nation in Europe prior to be canonized as the bravest saints I can't stress how much I wish Russia hadn't started the SMO when it did for precisely this reason.
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Jun 10, 2023 03:01
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sum posted:Do you think he tried to get this pulled once he saw the columns of Bradleys and Leopards abandoned before they even reached the Russian trenches? NAFO crew looks like they're doubling down on invoking Kharkiv so the guy probably does believe all that spilled ink.
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Jun 10, 2023 03:05
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Chillgamesh posted:Catching up on the thread and I gotta say it's pretty loving incredible that Ukraine drove their Gundam into a loving minefield and lost it instantly And in the process immediately throwing a wet blanket on the long held belief that western tanks are vastly superior to their Russian counterparts. Soon the Leopard's reputation is going to be just as damaged as the T-72's.
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Jun 10, 2023 03:06
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Gresh posted:And in the process immediately throwing a wet blanket on the long held belief that western tanks are vastly superior to their Russian counterparts. Soon the Leopard's reputation is going to be just as damaged as the T-72's. starting to think tanks are all just kinda like....vehicles, man
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Jun 10, 2023 03:09
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speng31b posted:starting to think tanks are all just kinda like....vehicles, man all hail the god of war thy name is artillery
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Jun 10, 2023 03:11
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Everything is a tank. 
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Jun 10, 2023 03:12
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Lol someone wasted $30 on this poo poo 
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Jun 10, 2023 03:12
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sum posted:Getting this form of warfare right takes intelligence and training. You need the right equipment, and effective doctrine. The Ukrainians have this. I estimate that their tank brigades have had around eight weeks to perfect combined arms warfare, around the same time I would have allocated to train the Royal Tank Regiment under my command to be an effective combined arms fighting force. What the gently caress? Does RTR really only have an eight week training cycle? Brits weight in please. I'll spare you a thousand words on the training cycle, other than lol nobody is sending a regiment into combat with 8 weeks training, it's 18th months ideally for a unit with a high volume of newly recruited troops.     I understand Ukraine loving this up. Hell, they were trained by RCR, who went from loving up their training, to deployment, where they trained the hosed up Ukrainians. But a British armoured regiment? What the gently caress?
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Jun 10, 2023 03:13
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Why are tanks not just round and slippery? That way all the rounds would simply slide off of them.
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Jun 10, 2023 03:13
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Ytlaya posted:Why are tanks not just round and slippery? That way all the rounds would simply slide off of them. okay leonardo da vinci 
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Jun 10, 2023 03:18
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lol iron front.
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Jun 10, 2023 03:19
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three white arrows pointing down and to the left is a little on the nose, c'mon that isn't real, is it?
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Jun 10, 2023 03:21
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Raskolnikov38 posted:okay leonardo da vinci If only I was born in a different era, I would have been a genius polymath
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Jun 10, 2023 03:22
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Futanari Damacy posted:Lol someone wasted $30 on this poo poo gbs must be crushed
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Jun 10, 2023 03:25
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Frosted Flake posted:c. "VT fuzes shall not be fired short of GOAT HERD"; Is this a real life example? SplitSoul posted:Slavacadabra.
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Jun 10, 2023 03:27
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Jon Pod Van Damm posted:three white arrows pointing down and to the left is a little on the nose, c'mon that isn't real, is it? militant centrism 
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Jun 10, 2023 03:30
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AnimeIsTrash posted:The piece of poo poo that shot up Christchurch has azov ties. yeah and its loving annoying because everyone here is still slava ukrainianing
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Jun 10, 2023 03:32
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Danann posted:https://twitter.com/GammonBadge/status/1667287101019136001 Its actually possible MonkeylibFront wrote this
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Jun 10, 2023 03:39
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Futanari Damacy posted:Lol someone wasted $30 on this poo poo the fields of sunflowers will be nice after this war is finished, well as long as you avoid the landmines
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Jun 10, 2023 03:41
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Frosted Flake posted:One of the substack guys pointed out something I'd been thinking about today and even came up in the ISW report, that the Ukrainians had clearly been trained along the lines of the doctrine paper Defeating the Russian Battalion Tactical Group and imo are paying for it now that there's been a return to a more recognizable Motor Rifle and Tank doctrine. How the hell did landmines, trenches, fortifications, obstacles, and prepared artillery become a surprise? Even the NAFO freaks were sharing pictures of the extensive Russian earthworks. You don't need to assume very much to say that landmines and prepared defensive plans go along with those. "The enemy defeated us by a novel strategy: using bigger and more guns." WTF.
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Jun 10, 2023 03:42
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i naively assume the bulk of nato planning is written with the assumption the opponent's forces are on the offense and having to cross minefields why would our good boys be on the offensive? they can't even call this an offensive and have settled on 'counter' to make it seem less egregious
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Jun 10, 2023 03:44
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defeated by landmines and shovels. how should I have known?!?
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Jun 10, 2023 03:49
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Frosted Flake posted:Motor Rifles are back, and all of the guys who trained to be light infantry and literally overwhelm Russian FOOs by presenting too many targets are in for a tough time. Human wave tactics you say?
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Jun 10, 2023 03:49
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the Challengers equipped with the Dozer Blades make short work of any Ork defences
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Jun 10, 2023 03:51
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bedpan posted:How the hell did landmines, trenches, fortifications, obstacles, and prepared artillery become a surprise? Even the NAFO freaks were sharing pictures of the extensive Russian earthworks. You don't need to assume very much to say that landmines and prepared defensive plans go along with those. Everyone knows the Maginot Line failed and therefore fortifications are obsolete. Ukraine can just drive around them and fight where the mines aren't. Also the orks ran out of artillery shells last year, everyone knows this. Its a case of falling for their own propaganda. The dumbshits thought the Russians really were green recruits cowering in shallow pits and clutching shovels, without any ammo for their guns. They've been saying it for over a year now, its burned in too deep to remember it was always just propaganda
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Jun 10, 2023 03:54
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Weka posted:Is this a real life example? GOAT HERD would be either a signal or line on the map, but yeah, on your board you have a laminated map that you draw on with wax pencil that looks like this  and a white board with all of the signals and orders like that one. These are all of the things you have to keep track of on the fly. Briefly: Fire Support Coordination Line (FSCL). It's always a solid black line on the map, usually at the top, as all of our work happens within it. It's set by the overall ground commander, behind which all artillery, air and naval gunfire support missions must be coordinated. That's to prevent incidents like in WW2 where 8th Airforce or Bomber Command did not fully coordinate with ground commanders and their ordnance dropped short. No Fire Line (NFL). A line short of which which indirect fire systems do not fire except on request or approval of the commander who established the line—indirect fire systems may fire beyond the NFL at any time without danger to friendly troops. The NFL is set by Div- or Bde commanders. A Battalion commander can ask that one be established as well. The idea is to create a demarkation between where higher echelon guns are free to work - ahead of it - and where they need to be coordinated - short of it. The idea is to prevent Corps artillery from landing in the middle of the area of operations, while remaining free to hammer enemy concentrations beyond that without running everything through our (by then overworked) artillery staff or having to find out where the manoeuvre units are so shells don't land on them. If you are planning out an advance you determine a series of NFLs and give them code names, so for example, until manoeuvre units radio to say they've reached Goat Herd, don't fire VT. Sidebar, Americans call this the Coordinated Fire Line (CFL) and so it's a bit of a joke between us because theirs is the name of the Canadian football league and ours is the name of the American football league. Airspace Coordination Area. This is particularly relevant for restricting VT as aircraft and helicopters will set them off, on top of the already dire consequences of a 155mm shell hitting a Blackhawk or whatever. There's a bunch more stuff that goes into it, including RCAF guys attached to staff, but that's the gist. It would be more relevant if we had Air Defence. Free Fire Area (FFA). What it sounds like. You can even fire into the FFA to empty guns (rather than unloading), and tac air might jettison their bombs there too. No Fire Area (NFA). The opposite, you need the overall commander to approve any fire whatsoever. Restricted Fire Area. The RFA is established by manoeuvre battalion establishing HQ. The purpose is to regulate fire into an area according to restrictions that are imposed and in which fire that exceeds those will not be delivered without the HQ that issued it signing off. So, for example, infantry battalion commander wants to create craters or something, he could prohibit VT missions in his RFA. Restrictive Fire Line (RFL). It's your "lane", so a buffer to prevent friendly fire into adjacent units and vice versa. So, you can imagine that map, and then as I said a whiteboard with the timings and issuing HQs for all of these lines, as well as restrictions for each, and code names.
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Jun 10, 2023 03:56
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Fell Mood posted:Yes. Because that's literally what the nazis told us at the end of WW2 when we asked them about how to fight the Soviets. And we believed them and based doctrine on it for 50 year's. nazi germany is totally that guy that just got his rear end whooped at the bar going "i totally would've won but i was wearing my flip flops"
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Jun 10, 2023 03:57
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Frosted Flake posted:What the gently caress? Does RTR really only have an eight week training cycle? Brits weight in please. this seems ludicrous looking at it from the point of view of... working a job requiring any complex task at all. quote:Training Every Owner/Operator for Success If your average soldier can perfect combined arms warfare in 8 weeks I assume myself and every other clueless goon can become an elite operator in, say, 12 months
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Jun 10, 2023 04:03
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you advance under fire through a minefield with the army you have, not the army you want
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Jun 10, 2023 04:04
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Nix Panicus posted:Human wave tactics you say?  "Initiate contact at multiple locations to dissipate the BTG's fire superiority and overload their fire-direction centre" "BTGs field a brigade complement of artillery that outrange and outgun U.S. BCTs, but the BTGs only have a reinforced battalion of maneuver detectors. This is important because a BTG does not have the normal complement of mounted and dismounted personnel that would normally serve as forward observers. The ISR platforms must either serve double duty as forward observers, or maneuver personnel must move forward to the line of contact (LoC) to coordinate indirect fires. BTGs assume that fires and air-defense superiority gives them the freedom to employ long-range strikes whenever visual or electronic contact is made, regardless of infrastructure and civilian damage. Local fires superiority gives BTG artillery the confidence to remain in place, and it provides the BTG with constantly available indirect-fire support." "Before shots are fired on the battlefield, a key task is to shape the battlefield by overloading the BTG’s critical systems. The BTG will attempt to defeat a BCT by concentrating effects on individual U.S. sub-units in sequence. Although several of the BTG’s high-end systems are technologically superior to the corresponding U.S. equipment, the BTG doesn’t have the capacity to observe, target and attack the BCT simultaneously across a broad front. Not only can a BCT maneuver three times as many formations, the decentralized nature of U.S. mission command allows each formation to maneuver simultaneously and independent of brigade-level direction. Therefore, the BTG must track, analyze and counter each movement. Unfortunately, the BTG is not resourced for a burden of that magnitude, and it doesn’t have formal reachback protocols to use higher levels of analysis."
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Jun 10, 2023 04:06
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everyone needs to discover for themselves that explosions really hurt
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Jun 10, 2023 04:09
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it's kind of weird that they telegraphed the offensive in the south for so long before actually launching it. If that was the plan all along, why not announce an imminent invasion of Belarus or something other than what you were actually going to do？ The western press is completely subordinate to their governments at this point so it's not like they didn't have the means. There, I've said it. Watch for news of a sudden Ukrainian blitzkreig into Belarus on Monday I guess.
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Jun 10, 2023 04:09
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I knew the killbots had a preset targeting limit, so I threw waves of my men at them until their sensors were overwhelmed and the dominos fell like a house of cards. Checkmate.
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Jun 10, 2023 04:10
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Throatwarbler posted:it's kind of weird that they telegraphed the offensive in the south for so long before actually launching it. If that was the plan all along, why not announce an imminent invasion of Belarus or something other than what you were actually going to do？ The western press is completely subordinate to their governments at this point so it's not like they didn't have the means. Its funny because that weird ad campaign of 'don't talk about the offensive' was like a week ago and everyone hailed it as next level genius, and then they immediately launched the offensive
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Jun 10, 2023 04:14
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Throatwarbler posted:it's kind of weird that they telegraphed the offensive in the south for so long before actually launching it. If that was the plan all along, why not announce an imminent invasion of Belarus or something other than what you were actually going to do？ The western press is completely subordinate to their governments at this point so it's not like they didn't have the means. Generating social media hype is a key part of Ukraine's strategy of getting the West to give them more guns
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Jun 10, 2023 04:16
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CNN posted:Ukrainian forces have suffered losses in heavy equipment and soldiers as they met greater than expected resistance from Russian forces in their first attempt to breach Russian lines in the east of the country in recent days, two senior US officials tell CNN. must be bad if that's what CNN is going with
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Jun 10, 2023 05:04
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hmmmmm, sounds like you're going to lose some men and equipment when you're on the offensive.
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Jun 10, 2023 05:05
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Lostconfused posted:hmmmmm, sounds like you're going to lose some men and equipment when you're on the offensive. You're also supposed to achieve something in the process.
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when russian tanks advance in columns and are destroyed in a minefield, its human wave tactics by incompetent commanders when ukrainian tanks advance in columns and are destroyed in minefields, well offensive operations are just really tough and theyre doing the best they can
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