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Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

zoux posted:

Here's an interesting factoid: the average US president is indicted on 1.5 counts of state or federal felony offense after leaving office.

I told Taft he shouldn't steal the white house pool just because it was the only tureen large enough for his soup servings, but he didn't listen

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VideoGameVet
May 14, 2005

It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion. It is by the juice of Java that pedaling acquires speed, the teeth acquire stains, stains become a warning. It is by caffeine alone I set my bike in motion.

Presto posted:

The frustrating thing in Virginia is that after passing a bunch of good stuff, the Dems seemed embarrassed to actually tell anyone what they did when the next election came around, and they ended up losing the state house and the governor.

The gov quote about schools and parents had to be one of the most politically clueless things I ever heard.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Desantis trying to thread that needle where he openly supports trump and trump is convicted and then dies before the first primary.

zoux
Apr 28, 2006

It's Ianucci poo poo, they all have to pretend like his obvious and stupid crimes are fine! They're just fine! But he shouldn't be the republican nominee for president but not "because" of that? For other reasons, reasons that I won't say. He is easily our greatest president who should, by absolutely no means, be anywhere near a position of power, so I should be. Theoretically. Of course, I will be voting for him in this week's upcoming primary.

Young Freud
Nov 26, 2006

I AM GRANDO posted:

Desantis trying to thread that needle where he openly supports trump and trump is convicted and then dies before the first primary.

Jokes on him, Trump can run his presidential campaign from prison, Eugene V. Debs-style, and will probably still get the Republican Party nomination.

James Garfield
May 5, 2012
Am I a manipulative abuser in real life, or do I just roleplay one on the Internet for fun? You decide!

zoux posted:

It's Ianucci poo poo, they all have to pretend like his obvious and stupid crimes are fine! They're just fine! But he shouldn't be the republican nominee for president but not "because" of that? For other reasons, reasons that I won't say. He is easily our greatest president who should, by absolutely no means, be anywhere near a position of power, so I should be. Theoretically. Of course, I will be voting for him in this week's upcoming primary.

Asa Hutchinson says Trump should drop out after the indictment! Of course, Asa Hutchinson also had to clarify that he's a Republican presidential candidate in the press release with his presidential campaign logo on it.

Discendo Vox
Mar 21, 2013

We don't need to have that dialogue because it's obvious, trivial, and has already been had a thousand times.
It's interesting to see the heavy kerning and...not sure what the term is for the exaggerated asymmetric line weight, that seems common in recent Republican candidate logos.

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Young Freud posted:

Jokes on him, Trump can run his presidential campaign from prison, Eugene V. Debs-style, and will probably still get the Republican Party nomination.

i adore my man debs but his presidential campaigns were not a great success

to everyone's shock, he made a little more impact at the local level

Unormal
Nov 16, 2004

Mod sass? This evening?! But the cakes aren't ready! THE CAKES!
Fun Shoe

zoux posted:

Here's an interesting factoid: the average US president is indicted on 1.5 counts of state or federal felony offense after leaving office.

"the average 21st century president is convicted of 5 felonies after being president" is actually just a statistical error. Felonies Don, who lives in a gilded bathroom and has 34 felonies, is an outlier adn should not be counted

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

zoux posted:

It's Ianucci poo poo, they all have to pretend like his obvious and stupid crimes are fine! They're just fine! But he shouldn't be the republican nominee for president but not "because" of that? For other reasons, reasons that I won't say. He is easily our greatest president who should, by absolutely no means, be anywhere near a position of power, so I should be. Theoretically. Of course, I will be voting for him in this week's upcoming primary.

Lol it is insane to watch them try to thread this needle

davecrazy
Nov 25, 2004

I'm an insufferable shitposter who does not deserve to root for such a good team. Also, this is what Matt Harvey thinks of me and my garbage posting.

James Garfield posted:

Asa Hutchinson says Trump should drop out after the indictment! Of course, Asa Hutchinson also had to clarify that he's a Republican presidential candidate in the press release with his presidential campaign logo on it.



rear end for America

Madkal
Feb 11, 2008

Fallen Rib

Unormal posted:

"the average 21st century president is convicted of 5 felonies after being president" is actually just a statistical error. Felonies Don, who lives in a gilded bathroom and has 34 felonies, is an outlier adn should not be counted

Trump is truly the MVP and should be put into some record books as the the president with the most indictments ever. No asterisks needed.

Tayter Swift
Nov 18, 2002

Pillbug
Just a staggering number of indictments above a replacement-level president

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

zoux posted:

Here's an interesting factoid: the average US president is indicted on 1.5 counts of state or federal felony offense after leaving office.

Felonies Georg

Barudak
May 7, 2007

Tayter Swift posted:

Just a staggering number of indictments above a replacement-level president

FAR stats don't lie, Donald Trump belongs in jail

FizFashizzle
Mar 30, 2005







OctaMurk posted:

Lol it is insane to watch them try to thread this needle

All the people Trump has insulted have to position themselves to run on pardoning him the hardest if he's arrested.

Yawgmoft
Nov 15, 2004

VideoGameVet posted:

The gov quote about schools and parents had to be one of the most politically clueless things I ever heard.

But it was also 100% correct, and people weren't lying when they said they wanted politicians who told hard truths and tell it like it is, right?

Bel Shazar
Sep 14, 2012

Yawgmoft posted:

But it was also 100% correct, and people weren't lying when they said they wanted politicians who told hard truths and tell it like it is, right?

People want politicians who will tell them hard truthiness.

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
Even when Democrats actually do decent things, they sure as gently caress don't want to advertise it, because then voters might start expecting them to do it more often.

Thorn Wishes Talon
Oct 18, 2014

by Fluffdaddy

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Even when Democrats actually do decent things, they sure as gently caress don't want to advertise it, because then voters might start expecting them to do it more often.

This is a genuinely very funny post.

Kalit
Nov 6, 2006

The great thing about the thousands of slaughtered Palestinian children is that they can't pull away when you fondle them or sniff their hair.

That's a Biden success story.

Ghost Leviathan posted:

Even when Democrats actually do decent things, they sure as gently caress don't want to advertise it, because then voters might start expecting them to do it more often.

Do you mind giving specific examples of them not advertising "decent" things they've done [for fear of voters expecting them to do more]? To provide examples of Democrats advertising their accomplishments (both locally to me and nationally), here are a few:
And the list could go on forever.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



They absolutely ran screaming away from Obamacare in 2010.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Earlier this week Robert Hanssen, a former FBI agent who was incarcerated in ADX Florence Supermax for being a paid spy for Russia, was found dead in his cell.

Today another high profile inmate from that same cell block died.

https://twitter.com/lukelbarr/status/1667571727386198016?s=46&t=BHs6Pl38GJXGN2Y4xeriNA

AlternateNu
May 5, 2005

ドーナツダメ!

FlamingLiberal posted:

Earlier this week Robert Hanssen, a former FBI agent who was incarcerated in ADX Florence Supermax for being a paid spy for Russia, was found dead in his cell.

Today another high profile inmate from that same cell block died.

https://twitter.com/lukelbarr/status/1667571727386198016?s=46&t=BHs6Pl38GJXGN2Y4xeriNA

They were 79 and 81, right? Sounds about right.

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

I am interested in most phases of data processing.

AlternateNu posted:

They were 79 and 81, right? Sounds about right.
That's ancient for prisoners. Being in prison has a tendency to cut down on one's life expectancy.

FlamingLiberal
Jan 18, 2009

Would you like to play a game?



Yeah I’m not trying to claim conspiracy, it’s just interesting how that happens sometimes

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Unabomber was hosed up from a lifetime of avoiding doctors and nutritious food, iirc. He got all hosed up/way more hosed up at like 16 at Harvard by being part of a long-term torture study and lived like a weirdo after that.

Eason the Fifth
Apr 9, 2020
He was an incel killer before culture had a name for it.


APNews posted:

Ted Kaczynski was born May 22, 1942, in Chicago, the son of second-generation Polish Catholics — a sausage-maker and a homemaker. He played the trombone in the school band, collected coins and skipped the sixth and 11th grades.

His high school classmates thought him odd, particularly after he showed a school wrestler how to make a mini-bomb that detonated during chemistry class.

Harvard classmates recalled him as a lonely, thin boy with poor personal hygiene and a room that smelled of spoiled milk, rotting food and foot powder.

After graduate studies at the University of Michigan at Ann Arbor, he got a job teaching math at the University of California at Berkeley but found the work difficult and quit abruptly. In 1971, he bought a 1½-acre parcel about 4 miles (6 kilometers) outside of Lincoln and built a cabin there without heating, plumbing or electricity.

He learned to garden, hunt, make tools and sew, living on a few hundred dollars a year.

He left his cabin in Montana in the late 1970s to work at a foam rubber products manufacturer outside Chicago with his father and brother. But when a female supervisor dumped him after two dates, he began posting insulting limericks about her and wouldn’t stop.

His brother fired him and Ted Kaczynski soon returned to the wilderness to continue plotting his vengeful killing spree.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Eason the Fifth posted:

He was an incel killer before culture had a name for it.

It doesn't excuse his bad poetry, but it's a little problematic that his supervisor would try to date a subordinate. That kind of power imbalance isn't acceptable and she probably would have been fired today.

e: possibly his brother or father were supervisors to her and pressured her to do it? If they had the ability to fire him, this seems possible.

mawarannahr fucked around with this message at 21:47 on Jun 10, 2023

paranoid randroid
Mar 4, 2007

Eason the Fifth posted:

He was an incel killer before culture had a name for it.

Really eliding over the whole "roped into MKULTRA" phase in that bio

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

paranoid randroid posted:

Really eliding over the whole "roped into MKULTRA" phase in that bio

He made the classroom bomb and collected coins before his MK-ULTRA encounter.

SpeakSlow
May 17, 2004

by Fluffdaddy
Metal Gear: Shapiro: The Sons Of Buckley

Eason the Fifth
Apr 9, 2020
He believed that the experiment didn't have any effect on him. Then again, he was so convinced he was sane that he tried to kill himself before deciding to plead guilty instead of allowing his lawyers to plead insanity. :shrug:

Wikipedia posted:

Kaczynski stated he resented Murray and his co-workers, primarily because of the invasion of his privacy he perceived as a result of their experiments. Nevertheless, he said he was "quite confident that [his] experiences with Professor Murray had no significant effect on the course of [his] life."

wikipedia posted:

Kaczynski was arrested in 1996, and—maintaining that he was sane—tried and failed to dismiss his court-appointed lawyers because they wanted him to plead insanity to avoid the death penalty.

I don't know much about him past pop culture and 90s news coverage, but it's hard to miss the proto awkward/smart-and-jokerfied-incel parallels, even without the experiments.

wikipedia posted:

In August 1978, his brother fired him for writing insulting limericks about a female supervisor Ted had courted briefly. The supervisor later recalled Kaczynski as intelligent and quiet, but remembered little of their acquaintanceship and firmly denied they had had any romantic relationship.

quote:

He defines leftists as "mainly socialists, collectivists, 'politically correct' types, feminists, gay and disability activists, animal rights activists and the like". He believes that over-socialization and feelings of inferiority are primary drivers of leftism, and derides it as "one of the most widespread manifestations of the craziness of our world". He also criticizes conservatives, describing them as "fools who whine about the decay of traditional values, yet ... enthusiastically support technological progress and economic growth"—things he argues have led to this decay.

Eason the Fifth fucked around with this message at 22:38 on Jun 10, 2023

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

so, which company is gonna make money on this and end up leaking the GPS coordinates for doughy SPACE FORCE recruits :allears:
Space Force takes holistic approach to fitness | Federal News Network

federalnewsnetwork.com posted:

The Space Force wants potential recruits to know they don’t have to be models of strength and fitness to be Guardians — they just need a healthy lifestyle. A new fitness monitoring program offers guardians an alternative to traditional military physical fitness testing.

The need for brains over brawn drives the calculus behind the fitness program. The Space Force leaders want to open the door to recruits who might otherwise be reluctant to join the military. Guardians have an opportunity to volunteer for the two-year test program that takes a holistic approach to fitness as an alternative to testing in the form of activities like pushups and running.

“The way they serve is different. And it’s often enabled by computers and through technology. We don’t have to have exactly the same talent management process, the same accession process and physical testing process,” said Alex Wagner, assistant secretary of the Air Force for manpower and reserve affairs.

The test program will look at health and fitness for service members in a new way that is meant to be more inclusive of different body types and different fitness levels.

“Instead of once or twice a year getting ready to take a PT test, and making sure that your height and your weight and your body conform to what was within standard, we would have the option for continuous fitness monitoring,” Wagner said at a Center for a New American Security national security conference Tuesday. “Those people who aren’t necessarily required to meet a certain physical standard to do that job would still be allowed to [be part of] a healthy force.”

The holistic health approach has three parts. The performance health optimization emphasizes nutritional guidance, physical activity, sleep hygiene and stress management along with avoiding harmful substances. It includes the Air Force body composition standards, which measure body fat distribution according to height and weight.

The education part of the program works to increase positive behaviors and build on guardians’ existing military education for prevention skill-building.

A final part of the program is a continuous fitness assessment study to be conducted by the Air Force Research Laboratory. Part of the mission is figuring out whether wearable fitness devices are an effective means of measuring physical fitness and readiness, including cardiorespiratory/muscular fitness and musculoskeletal injury risk.

The wearable fitness device measures activity and other biometric data. A written statement from Space Force said care will be taken to protect the privacy of data gained from the devices. Wearers only have to use the device during physical activity and they have the ability to turn off the GPS.

“Data imported from the wearable device manufacturer will be limited to fitness data required for the program and be stored in a system that has been evaluated for cybersecurity compliance and granted an authority to operate,” the statement said.

The program will be run by Guardian resilience teams at every Space Force base, as well as a virtual team for Guardians who are in remote locations. The resilience teams include a strength trainer, a mental health provider and physical therapists, among other specialists.

The two-year test program will run on a strictly volunteer basis, and Space Force leaders want it to provide an incentive for those potential recruits who have technical skills, but would prefer a different approach to fitness.

“We’ve got to be able to get a different type of person who was propensity to serve, but might see themselves as not really willing to do the stereotypical military model,” Wagner said.
there's probably a decent chance "disable GPS" won't work right.

e: intended to post in a different thread but I guess it's on topic here too. also in this series:

mawarannahr fucked around with this message at 22:51 on Jun 10, 2023

Gumball Gumption
Jan 7, 2012

It is kind of unfair to call him an incel killer if only because a lot of his loneliness came from actually being far above everyone and not just having a false sense of superiority. There is also legitimacy to his motives being neo-luddite terrorism. The FBI profile suggested it far before he had published his manifesto.

He's so much weirder than incels

Bellmaker
Oct 18, 2008

Chapter DOOF



Very weird feeling to be reading about the Unabomber again in 2023, with the current AR-15 hellscape we are in.

I AM GRANDO
Aug 20, 2006

Eason the Fifth posted:

He believed that the experiment didn't have any effect on him. Then again, he was so convinced he was sane that he tried to kill himself before deciding to plead guilty instead of allowing his lawyers to plead insanity. :shrug:



I don't know much about him past pop culture and 90s news coverage, but it's hard to miss the proto awkward/smart-and-jokerfied-incel parallels, even without the experiments.

Many of the other subjects, who were 20+ and well-adjusted, reported having problems for years and requiring therapy to get past it. It was an experiment specifically designed to traumatize adults, so I don’t imagine a friendless weird 16-year-old who was probably ignored or bullied by all the snobs going there had a very good time with it. Participants were paid $20 a month for two years to be ridiculed and then forced to watch recorded footage of themselves being humiliated.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
incel/killer, not incel-killer

Kanos
Sep 6, 2006

was there a time when speedwagon didn't get trolled

Bellmaker posted:

Very weird feeling to be reading about the Unabomber again in 2023, with the current AR-15 hellscape we are in.

Imagining a simpler time, when being randomly murdered with no warning while in the midst of doing something completely mundane(in this case, opening your mail) was completely abnormal and horrifying, instead of that being something that just happens weekly at grocery stores, malls, and schools across the entire country, often with much higher body counts.

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Star Man
Jun 1, 2008

There's a star maaaaaan
Over the rainbow

Kanos posted:

Imagining a simpler time, when being randomly murdered with no warning while in the midst of doing something completely mundane(in this case, opening your mail) was completely abnormal and horrifying, instead of that being something that just happens weekly at grocery stores, malls, and schools across the entire country, often with much higher body counts.

If you were white

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