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Swore this game off due to the monetization but that Diablo itch is burning hard inside me. Just curious - I know Blizzard’s been doing those famous Blizzard “balance patches” but how is class balance now, genuinely?
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 22:18 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 21:21 |
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EVERY TIME GOING posted:You don't need to learn the lingo to run the T1 cinematic leveling experience and hitting the imps with any random stick will finish the campaign. Afterwards if you want to get on the current endgame treadmill, there are only a few viable skill combos that 95% of the gold farmers and internet beggars run because the majority of skills in this game are so anemic they can be considered cosmetic. this is super interesting
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 22:19 |
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EVERY TIME GOING posted:You don't need to learn the lingo to run the T1 cinematic leveling experience and hitting the imps with any random stick will finish the campaign. Afterwards if you want to get on the current endgame treadmill, there are only a few viable skill combos that 95% of the gold farmers and internet beggars run because the majority of skills in this game are so anemic they can be considered cosmetic. for rogue I really prefer flurry over twisting blades
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 22:22 |
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Game threw me 2 unique pants on what is probably my final dungeon run, too bad all the uniques seem to suck and aren't worth using.
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 22:29 |
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I feel so bad when I accidentally explode a deer.
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 22:30 |
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There are many very good uniques
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 22:32 |
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EVERY TIME GOING posted:You don't need to learn the lingo to run the T1 cinematic leveling experience and hitting the imps with any random stick will finish the campaign. Afterwards if you want to get on the current endgame treadmill, there are only a few viable skill combos that 95% of the gold farmers and internet beggars run because the majority of skills in this game are so anemic they can be considered cosmetic. impressively lopsided. streamer/youtube/guide meta is definitely skewing that, but even still that's very lopsided
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 22:32 |
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BULBASAUR posted:for rogue I really prefer flurry over twisting blades I do too but twisting blades just feels like it hits so much harder especially in a single target situation where flurry's key trait (spreading vulnerability around) doesn't matter
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 22:33 |
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katkillad2 posted:Game threw me 2 unique pants on what is probably my final dungeon run, too bad all the uniques seem to suck and aren't worth using. lol what the uniques are amazing
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 22:33 |
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EVERY TIME GOING posted:You don't need to learn the lingo to run the T1 cinematic leveling experience and hitting the imps with any random stick will finish the campaign. Afterwards if you want to get on the current endgame treadmill, there are only a few viable skill combos that 95% of the gold farmers and internet beggars run because the majority of skills in this game are so anemic they can be considered cosmetic. 0.00% people running boulder or incinerate, gj blizzard
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 22:35 |
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EVERY TIME GOING posted:You don't need to learn the lingo to run the T1 cinematic leveling experience and hitting the imps with any random stick will finish the campaign. Afterwards if you want to get on the current endgame treadmill, there are only a few viable skill combos that 95% of the gold farmers and internet beggars run because the majority of skills in this game are so anemic they can be considered cosmetic. Congratulations to Boulder and Incinerate for not being taken by even a single person in the top 1000! Incinerate has great sound design and plenty of skill and legendary support, but standing still is death after world tier 2, and even in it sometimes, I'm guessing. The conjuration skills are all just awful. Hydra was apparently broken in beta or something but they smashed it so hard nobody runs it in live. Ice Blades feels awful to cast and has poor visual feedback even if it's doing something. Lightning Spear is literally not even worth a button press it does so little, and the percentages on the supporting legendary and skill effects are hilariously low. They could be 100% and I still think nobody would really run it. Ice Shards is fun and has a lot of synergy but it's pretty clear Blizzard is going to smash all of the top-performing stuff with massive nerfs before they consider buffing the stuff people are ignoring. Lol at Barbs just always taking Whirlwind...nobody wants to play with anything new. Spin to win go brrrr Darke GBF fucked around with this message at 22:42 on Jun 10, 2023 |
# ? Jun 10, 2023 22:37 |
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Psyker posted:Swore this game off due to the monetization but that Diablo itch is burning hard inside me. I don't know why you'd target this game for monetization unless you refuse to play anything with any monetization at all. It's minor, cosmetic only—lots of cool armor in the game for free. It's rare I see anyone with paid cosmetics, not that I'd necessarily notice anyway.
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 22:38 |
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Darke GBF posted:Congratulations to Boulder and Incinerate for not being taken by even a single person in the top 1000! my wife who is a complete casual, whos only game played before this was D3 which she loves, and only played sorceress incinerate, completely hates sorceress now and especially incinerate. gg blizz
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 22:39 |
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Every guide recommends lunging strike for barb I think entirely for its gap closing capability. It's kinda lame so I run frenzy.
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 22:42 |
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I've discovered some enemies which eliminate your resource and it's the least fun thing ever.
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 22:43 |
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The thing is you don't need to be a guide reader or meta humping streamer to try skills out and realize that some feel OK and some are three times as strong and useful. Invigorating Strike was my first builder. Went to Shifting Blade soon, then tried Bow Rogue in Acts 2-3. I tried Puncture in Act 4 on. Puncture does more damage, multi-hits to trigger more things and spreads slow and vuln much more easily. It even does it better than trying to spread Flurry Vulns, which is OK but.. eh. Also Twisting Blades utterly deletes targets if you stack any other conditions on it(i.e. vuln damage) so yeah, basic experimentation is gonna tell you which top 1/3 of skills to use. So even as a dude who didn't look at a single guide I found the meta, apparently.
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 22:45 |
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M. Night Skymall posted:Did you get the amulet to drop? I thought it was going to be like shako level rare. I have everything else but haven't bothered trying to put it together since I figure I'd never see the amulet. The build only wants CDR on the amulet, and "3 to envenom" if you can get it. Not sure if which amulet you're talking about or which build. Doomykins posted:The thing is you don't need to be a guide reader or meta humping streamer to try skills out and realize that some feel OK and some are three times as strong and useful. Invigorating Strike was my first builder. Went to Shifting Blade soon, then tried Bow Rogue in Acts 2-3. I tried Puncture in Act 4 on. Puncture does more damage, multi-hits to trigger more things and spreads slow and vuln much more easily. It even does it better than trying to spread Flurry Vulns, which is OK but.. eh. Also Twisting Blades utterly deletes targets if you stack any other conditions on it(i.e. vuln damage) so yeah, basic experimentation is gonna tell you which top 1/3 of skills to use. The game had zero balancing and QoL work in the past year. It feels like everything went into the campaign and then it more or less falls apart shortly after. Zotix fucked around with this message at 22:49 on Jun 10, 2023 |
# ? Jun 10, 2023 22:46 |
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Ms. Chanandler Bong posted:I've discovered some enemies which eliminate your resource and it's the least fun thing ever. which ones? wraiths had mana burn in d2 and i hated them forever because of it, but i haven't seen anything like that in this game yet
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 22:47 |
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thats not candy posted:which ones? wraiths had mana burn in d2 and i hated them forever because of it, but i haven't seen anything like that in this game yet In shadowed plunge dungeon but i think it's my nightmare sigil affix. In which case I guess I'm avoiding those sigils forever
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 22:50 |
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Ms. Chanandler Bong posted:In shadowed plunge dungeon but i think it's my nightmare sigil affix. In which case I guess I'm avoiding those sigils forever ah that makes sense as a nightmare modifier. another point for resourceless builds i guess
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 22:53 |
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Kaddish posted:I don't know why you'd target this game for monetization unless you refuse to play anything with any monetization at all. It's minor, cosmetic only—lots of cool armor in the game for free. If isn't a big deal why is it in the game? I mean it couldn't possibly be because they know that to many people cosmetics are part of the experience, part of the enjoyment of the game. They are paying AAA price, and getting a worse experience. That's bad. You shouldn't be handwaving that poo poo away.
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 22:59 |
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Communist Thoughts posted:Wtf is this marketing? This is the company that bullied a woman to death and had the Cosby suite right? They need to get normal, red blooded american men who play madden on xbox to buy this game too.
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 23:02 |
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SettingSun posted:Every guide recommends lunging strike for barb I think entirely for its gap closing capability. It's kinda lame so I run frenzy. I initially resisted and went with a frenzy build too; It reminds me of D2 dual wield barb, and sounded like fun. That was a mistake. With LS, your primary attack is a mobility skill, and it’s loving amazing. Reminds me of stance dancing prot warrior from WoW, except you can actually kill things. I would reconsider this opinion if Blizz does the needful and buffs frenzy.
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 23:03 |
I got an almost perfectly rolled crystal greatsword with a sick whirlwind bonus (increased crit chance per second), so I immediately switched from a bleed build to lungey, stompy, jumpy, shouty build and it's wonderful to just get at the enemy and hurt them. No waiting for the Rupture cooldown or whatever, just here comes the helicopter open up and die.
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 23:12 |
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BULBASAUR posted:for rogue I really prefer flurry over twisting blades Yeah I was gonna say, I'm surprised that number is so low, I respecced into the flurry build on icey veins and it kicks rear end
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 23:16 |
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drat farming the loot cave and my wife gets the bloody sacred unique sorc pants that frozen things have a 20% chance to explode when killed. we're blasting now. it works with my klils on frozen things, along with her fireball enchant causing enemies to explode for 50% of life when killed, I can be 2 screens away and enemies are still popping with the fire explosions, seems to work on any party members kills
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 23:22 |
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World boss spawning in 18 minutes in Seared Basin. I dunno how it's handled in the game but for me the timer is there.
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 23:23 |
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Black Griffon posted:I got an almost perfectly rolled crystal greatsword with a sick whirlwind bonus (increased crit chance per second), so I immediately switched from a bleed build to lungey, stompy, jumpy, shouty build and it's wonderful to just get at the enemy and hurt them. No waiting for the Rupture cooldown or whatever, just here comes the helicopter open up and die. I had a similar experience with my necro where I was switching off and on the minion build and had a pretty tanky healbot setup for my sizeable posse with +2 mages and +2 warriors on the dagger and shield, then found a +78% Overpower damage on a two-hander scythe and into the sacrificial pit went all my minions. Finding new items can really make you spend a shitload of gold on respeccing to entire new builds.
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 23:24 |
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EVERY TIME GOING posted:You don't need to learn the lingo to run the T1 cinematic leveling experience and hitting the imps with any random stick will finish the campaign. Afterwards if you want to get on the current endgame treadmill, there are only a few viable skill combos that 95% of the gold farmers and internet beggars run because the majority of skills in this game are so anemic they can be considered cosmetic. What is this chart? I’m running super lighting everything Druid and it basically looks like nothing on this chart haha.
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 23:25 |
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Is there anything in the game that can boost item level, like in Destiny 2 though I forget what it is called? I got this ring and I am wondering if I can keep using it. EDIT: I know there is Upgrade but that tops out. That said, it would make sense if that is the point and I just answered my own question. Unlucky7 fucked around with this message at 23:40 on Jun 10, 2023 |
# ? Jun 10, 2023 23:30 |
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Uhhhh, something is wrong with my "Upgrade" here, why is it lowering my Lucky Hit chance by a lot
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 23:34 |
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Duck and Cover posted:If isn't a big deal why is it in the game? I mean it couldn't possibly be because they know that to many people cosmetics are part of the experience, part of the enjoyment of the game. They are paying AAA price, and getting a worse experience. That's bad. You shouldn't be handwaving that poo poo away. I don't care about the cosmetics for sale. I'm sorry I have disappointed you. I hope we can heal from this.
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 23:34 |
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Duck and Cover posted:If isn't a big deal why is it in the game? I mean it couldn't possibly be because they know that to many people cosmetics are part of the experience, part of the enjoyment of the game. They are paying AAA price, and getting a worse experience. That's bad. You shouldn't be handwaving that poo poo away. It’s in the game because they know some whale will spend a paycheck on cosmetics. Any company that makes games would be an idiot not to monetize. Do I think it’s a morally good thing to do? No. Will I ever spend a dollar on Diablo skins? No. But I get why they do it. Whether we like it or not, this is a thing that will always happen now. As consumers it is our job to not pay for that bullshit. That way they will at least only try to monetize cosmetics.
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 23:34 |
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I’m a filthy casual so don’t get mad at me but how do less than half of sorcerers use a basic attack? Do you just have infinite mana at some point?
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 23:35 |
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Yeah ice shards can eventually get enough mana Regen to not need a generator.
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 23:42 |
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For Barbarians, is does Fury not deplete over time anymore? I noticed that it wasn't depleting and I remember that being the case in D3. I will say, I do kind of miss the Runed system for abilities from D3, where you can have modifiers that drastically affected how the skill acts. I mean, they kind of have that with the binary modifiers but then that only makes two meaningful versions. Would have like to see more options like that for a skill.
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 23:44 |
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MarcusSA posted:I'm not even sure how I feel about cosmetics for this game yet. Like you can't really even see them like you can in like Fortnite. The cool PoE cosmetics are skins for your skill effects or silly gimmicky stuff like a magic ring that causes two ghostly hands to fist bump in the air over your heads when you trade with another player. Skill effects are the big one, you see those way more than you do your characters gloves or whatever in this kind of game
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 23:44 |
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Unlucky7 posted:Is there anything in the game that can boost item level, like in Destiny 2 though I forget what it is called? I got this ring and I am wondering if I can keep using it. You can extract the legendary power from it and slap it on a higher ilvl rare item with good rolls later
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 23:46 |
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Unlucky7 posted:For Barbarians, is does Fury not deplete over time anymore? I noticed that it wasn't depleting and I remember that being the case in D3. It does deplete over time, but the timer on it is in my experience pretty generous.
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# ? Jun 10, 2023 23:48 |
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# ? May 27, 2024 21:21 |
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Up to level 23 on a frost sorc and I am suitably whelmed. I assume the game gets a lot better after you beat it, which is pretty much expected but also an incredibly dated and contrived gameplay concept in TYOOL 2023 and makes it feel like a bit of a grind. Mostly I’m annoyed by the bugs. Why does the game freeze if I interact with anything within 3 seconds of completing a quest? Why does the open inventory hot key not work half the time unless you press it a second time? Why do some buttons make a continuous sound when you hover them? Why can some conversations be advanced/skipped but not others? The one thing that gives me hope that maybe the devs know what they’re doing more than I give them credit for is when I missed picking up a quest reward cache and later found it helpfully sitting in my stash as a “missed item”. Tell me it gets better?
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