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Regarde Aduck: Oct 19, 2012; c l o u d k i t t e n; Grimey Drawer

fizzy posted:

Peter Pomerantsev puts forth a salient case for the nihilism and death-drive inherent to the nature of the Russian.

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2023/jun/11/ecocide-russia-ukraine-war-kakhovka-dam-destroyed

What lies behind Russia�s acts of extreme violence? Freudian analysis offers an answer
Peter Pomerantsev
Sun 11 Jun 2023 10.01 BST

Beneath the veneer of Russian military �tactics�, you see the stupid leer of destruction for the sake of it. The Kremlin can�t create, so all that is left is to destroy. Not in some pseudo-glorious self-immolation, the people behind atrocities are petty cowards, but more like a loser smearing their faeces over life. In Russia�s wars the very senselessness seems to be the sense...

...

... One of the least accurate quotes about Russia is Winston Churchill�s line about it being �a riddle wrapped in a mystery inside an enigma, but perhaps there is a key. That key is Russian national interest.� This makes it sound as if Russia is driven by some theory of rational choice � when century after century the opposite appears to be the case.

Few have captured the Russian cycle of self-destruction and the destruction of others as well as the Ukrainian literary critic Tetyana Ogarkova. In her rewording of Fyodor Dostoevsky�s Russian classic novel Crime and Punishment, a novel about a murderer who kills simply because he can, Ogarkova calls Russia a culture where you have �crime without punishment, and punishment without crime�. The powerful murder with impunity; the victims are punished for no reason.

When not bringing humanitarian aid to the front lines, Ogarkova presents a podcast together with her husband, the philosopher Volodymyr Yermolenko. It�s remarkable for showing two people thinking calmly while under daily bombardment. It reminds me of German-Jewish philosophers such as Walter Benjamin, who kept writing lucidly even as they fled the Nazis.

As they try to make sense of the evil bearing down on their country, Ogarkova and Yermolenko note the difference between Hitler and Stalin: while Nazis had some rules about who they punished (non-Aryans; communists) in Stalin�s terror anyone could be a victim at any moment.

Random violence runs through Russian history.Reacting to how Vladimir Putin�s Russia is constantly changing its reasons for invading Ukraine � from �denazification� to �reclaiming historic lands� to �Nato expansion� � Ogarkova and Yermolenko decide that the very brutal nature of the invasion is its essence: the war crimes are the point. Russia claims to be a powerful �pole� in the world to balance the west � but has failed to create a successful political model others would want to join. So it has nothing left to offer except to drag everyone down to its own depths.�How dare you live like this,� went a resentful piece of graffiti by Russian soldiers in Bucha. �What�s the point of the world when there is no place for Russia in it,� complains Putin...

...

... Where does this drive to annihilation come from? In 1912 the Russian-Jewish psychoanalyst Sabina Spielrein � who was murdered by the Nazis, while her three brothers were killed in Stalin�s terror -first put forward the idea that people were drawn to death as much as to life. She drew on themes from Russian literature and folklore for her theory of a death drive, but the founder of psychoanalysis, Sigmund Freud, first found her ideas too morbid. After the First World War, he came to agree with her. The desire for death was the desire to let go of responsibility, the burden of individuality, choice, freedom � and sink back into inorganic matter. To just give up. In a culture such as Russia�s, where avoiding facing up to the dark past with all its complex webs of guilt and responsibility is commonplace, such oblivion can be especially seductive.,,

,,,

,,, Pushing the strange lure of death, oblivion and just giving up is the Russian gambit. How much life do we have left in us?

yep that's a guardian article

# ? Jun 11, 2023 13:13

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Jel Shaker: Apr 19, 2003

just ignore the night of the long knives i guess?

# ? Jun 11, 2023 13:20

Al-Saqr: Nov 11, 2007; One Day I Will Return To Your Side.

the guardian is worse than the sun, the guardian is the worst newspaper in that cursed island, because at least the rest of that trash dont pretend to be human, the guardian has pretensions of being anything better than a poo poo slug, which makes them the worst.

# ? Jun 11, 2023 13:20

Regarde Aduck: Oct 19, 2012; c l o u d k i t t e n; Grimey Drawer

imho when people started taking the piss out of their 'style' they leaned into it and that's where the wheels came off

like, i think they actually tell their writers to 'write some pompous hosed up bullshit with no actual point', they know what people want of them

# ? Jun 11, 2023 13:24

gradenko_2000: Oct 5, 2010; HELL SERPENT; Lipstick Apathy

tazjin posted:

my girlfriend's grandmother was explaining the perspective people in the 50s had on Bandera fans in Ukraine, what was going on politically etc., but then the TV in the kitchen showed Trump and she lost her thread, did finger guns at the TV, said "Trump!" and got up to make tea

https://twitter.com/LawyerRogelio/status/1023367005720731648?t=bHx2kVE3ESQYmiOVKqT-Vw&s=19

# ? Jun 11, 2023 13:25

Maya Fey: Jan 22, 2017

the guardian got significantly worse around the time their offices got raided in 2013 or so

# ? Jun 11, 2023 13:26

fizzy: Dec 2, 2022; by Jeffrey of YOSPOS

Bad news for Russia - Ukrainian forces have tactical advantages in conducting assaults at night due to Western-provided equipment with superior night optics systems

https://www.understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-june-10-2023

Russian Offensive Campaign Assessment, June 10, 2023

Russian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces have tactical advantages in conducting assaults at night due to Western-provided equipment with superior night optics systems. A prominent Russian milblogger claimed that Ukrainian forces are launching assaults at night because Western-provided equipment provides Ukrainian forces with �excellent� night vision optics.[13] Zaporizhia Oblast occupation official Vladimir Rogov also claimed that night assaults allow Ukrainian forces to more effectively use Western-provided equipment.[14] Russian sources have widely claimed that Ukrainian forces have started or intensified assaults at night in recent days, and Ukrainian forces may be increasingly leveraging the advantages provided by Western systems.[15]

# ? Jun 11, 2023 13:40

Cookie Cutter: Nov 29, 2020; Is there something else that's bothering you Mr. President?

Maya Fey posted:

the guardian got significantly worse around the time their offices got raided in 2013 or so

Yeh, they were never that great before then, but it was definitely one of those make or break moments - will you maintain some kind of edge, no matter how blunt, or will you bend to the state and film yourself destroying evidence at their behest - the guardian made its choice.

# ? Jun 11, 2023 13:41

euphronius: Feb 18, 2009

thank you ISW for the milblogger news

# ? Jun 11, 2023 13:41

Marenghi: Oct 16, 2008; Don't trust the liberals,
they will betray you

Cookie Cutter posted:

Yeh, they were never that great before then, but it was definitely one of those make or break moments - will you maintain some kind of edge, no matter how blunt, or will you bend to the state and film yourself destroying evidence at their behest - the guardian made its choice.

From what I remember of that time. The decent journalists they had opposed that and were sidelined. And some slugs jumped at the chance to aid MI5 and used it to advance their career at the guardian.

# ? Jun 11, 2023 13:49

Organ Fiend: May 21, 2007; custom title

fizzy posted:

Peter Pomerantsev puts forth a salient case for the nihilism and death-drive inherent to the nature of the Russian.

Catpetter lives

# ? Jun 11, 2023 13:50

tazjin: Jul 24, 2015

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Did Soviet people know about Trump in the 80s?

No. She said they didn't hear anything about him until well into the first Trump election. Her husband added "and I don't even watch these beauty contests!"

# ? Jun 11, 2023 13:56

Futanari Damacy: Oct 30, 2021; by sebmojo

euphronius posted:

thank you ISW for the milblogger news

Not allowed to post the sources friendo, don't feel like eating probes or shutting the thread down :awesome:

# ? Jun 11, 2023 14:06

OhFunny: Jun 26, 2013; EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

Goons. There's Big Plane news.

Canada orders seizure of Russian cargo plane

Canada has seized a Russian Antonov An-124 (the largest plane in the world after the tragic loss the An-225) that has been stuck at the Toronto airport there since the closure of Canadian airspace to Russian air traffic.

Canada intends to hand the plane over to Ukraine as compensation.

# ? Jun 11, 2023 14:19

bedpan: Apr 23, 2008

OhFunny posted:

Goons. There's Big Plane news.

Canada orders seizure of Russian cargo plane

Canada has seized a Russian Antonov An-124 (the largest plane in the world after the tragic loss the An-225) that has been stuck at the Toronto airport there since the closure of Canadian airspace to Russian air traffic.

Canada intends to hand the plane over to Ukraine as compensation.

what do you call this act?

rules based international order

# ? Jun 11, 2023 14:31

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

Marenghi posted:

From what I remember of that time. The decent journalists they had opposed that and were sidelined. And some slugs jumped at the chance to aid MI5 and used it to advance their career at the guardian.

You remember correctly. Drilling their own macbooks with goofy "we're the victim, oh boy we're going to be famous after this" grins on their faces. A good example of early play the victim profiteering.

# ? Jun 11, 2023 14:37

tazjin: Jul 24, 2015

good reading material is essential for a trip to the dacha on an extended weekend

# ? Jun 11, 2023 14:38

Frosted Flake: Sep 13, 2011; Semper Shitpost Ubique

bedpan posted:

what do you call this act?

rules based international order

I don't know how well versed you are in Canadian law, but this is very, very funny and definitely Nothing to Worry About�️

Government of Canada posted:

The Honourable M�lanie Joly, Minister of Foreign Affairs, today announced that the Government of Canada had ordered the seizure of a Russian-registered cargo aircraft currently grounded at Toronto Pearson Airport, pursuant to the Special Economic Measures Act.

The targeted Russian aircraft, an Antonov 124, is believed to be owned by a subsidiary of Volga-Dnepr Airlines LLC and Volga-Dnepr Group, two entities against which Canada recently imposed sanctions due to their complicity in President Putin�s war of choice. The seizure of the asset was made possible by the new asset seizure and forfeiture authorities under Canada�s autonomous sanctions regimes put forward in Budget 2022 and is in direct response to Russia�s full-scale invasion of Ukraine that began on February 24, 2022.

The seizure of this important asset is the first step of the Government of Canada�s action under the asset seizure and forfeiture regime and is designed to put additional pressure on Russia to stop its illegal war against Ukraine by straining its economic system and limiting resources that fuel the war. This is the first physical asset seized by the Government of Canada under this regime, and second overall seized and restrained under the Special Economic Measures Act.

The Government of Canada will seize the asset and manage it in accordance with federal legislation. Should the asset ultimately be forfeited to the Crown, Canada will work with the Government of Ukraine on options to redistribute this asset to compensate victims of human rights abuses, restore international peace and security, or rebuild Ukraine.

By authorizing the seizure of the Antonov 124, Canada reaffirms that impunity is not an option for those who have profited from Russia�s illegal war in Ukraine.

�Today, Canada is sending a clear message to the Russian regime that there will be nowhere left to hide for those who support and profit from the Kremlin�s war of aggression. Canada has been there to support Ukraine�s fight for freedom since day one and we will continue to be there through their victory to aid in their reconstruction efforts.�

- M�lanie Joly, Minister of Foreign Affairs

�Our Government is unwavering in our commitment to Ukraine�s sovereignty and against Russia�s illegal invasion. From the beginning we have stood on the side of the Ukrainian people, and implemented a NOTAM against all Russian-owned and operated flights into Canada. Today, we are demonstrating that Russia�s actions continue to have consequences. We stand with Ukraine and will take any and all necessary actions, including this seizure, to put pressure on President Putin�

- Omar Alghabra, Minister of Transport

Following Russia�s invasion of Ukraine, Canada and its G7 and other allies jointly decided to take additional steps to isolate Russia from the international financial system and impose consequences for its actions.

Canada made amendments to the Special Economic Measures Act and the Justice for Victims of Corrupt Foreign Officials Act. The amendments, which entered into force in June 2022, provide the authorities for the Government to seize, forfeit, dispose and redistribute assets belonging to sanctioned individuals and entities.

The aircraft, the largest cargo aircraft, is the second asset that Canada has seized/restrained under the Special Economic Measures Act. In December 2022, an order-in-council was announced to restrain US$26 million from Granite Capital Holdings Ltd., a company believed to be owned by Roman Abramovich, a Russian oligarch sanctioned under the Special Economic Measures (Russia) Regulations.

Global Affairs Canada will work with Public Services and Procurement Canada�s Seized Property Management Directorate to evaluate the condition of the asset and manage it through the seizure and forfeiture process.

# ? Jun 11, 2023 14:41

Frosted Flake: Sep 13, 2011; Semper Shitpost Ubique

Special Economic Measures Act posted:

In order to maximize the effectiveness of a sanctions regime, Canadian policy seeks to ensure, whenever possible, that sanctions are applied multilaterally. Absent a UNSC resolution, the Special Economic Measures Act (SEMA) allows Canada to impose sanctions in one of the following situations:

- where an international organization to which Canada belongs calls on its members to take economic measures against a foreign state;
- where a grave breach of international peace and security has occurred and is likely to result in a serious international crisis;
- where gross and systematic human rights violations have been committed in a foreign state; or
- where a national of a foreign state, who is either a foreign public official or an associate of such an official, is responsible for or complicit in acts of significant corruption.

Regulations enacted under SEMA apply to the following countries:

Belarus
China
Democratic People�s Republic of Korea
Haiti
Iran
Libya
Moldova
Myanmar
Nicaragua
Russia
South Sudan
Sri Lanka
Syria
Ukraine (linked to Russia�s ongoing violations of Ukraine�s sovereignty and territorial integrity)
Venezuela
Zimbabwe

Justice for Victims of Corrupt Foreign Officials Act posted:

The Justice for Victims of Corrupt Foreign Officials Act came into force on October 18, 2017. The Act allows Canada to impose an asset freeze and a dealings prohibition against individuals who, in the opinion of the Governor in Council, are responsible for or complicit in gross violations of internationally-recognized human rights or are foreign public officials, or their associates, who are responsible for or complicit in acts of significant corruption.

"SEMA posted:

Orders and Regulations
4 (1) The Governor in Council may, if the Governor in Council is of the opinion that any of the circumstances described in subsection (1.1) has occurred,

(a) make any orders or regulations with respect to the restriction or prohibition of any of the activities referred to in subsection (2) in relation to a foreign state that the Governor in Council considers necessary; and

(b) by order, cause to be seized or restrained in the manner set out in the order any property situated in Canada that is owned � or that is held or controlled, directly or indirectly � by

(i) a foreign state,

(ii) any person in that foreign state, or

(iii) a national of that foreign state who does not ordinarily reside in Canada.

Circumstances

(1.1) The circumstances referred to in subsection (1) are the following:

(a) an international organization of states or association of states, of which Canada is a member, has made a decision or a recommendation or adopted a resolution calling on its members to take economic measures against a foreign state;

(b) a grave breach of international peace and security has occurred that has resulted in or is likely to result in a serious international crisis;

(c) gross and systematic human rights violations have been committed in a foreign state; or

(d) a national of a foreign state who is either a foreign public official, within the meaning of section 2 of the Corruption of Foreign Public Officials Act, or an associate of such an official, is responsible for or complicit in ordering, controlling or otherwise directing acts of corruption � including bribery, the misappropriation of private or public assets for personal gain, the transfer of the proceeds of corruption to foreign states or any act of corruption related to expropriation, government contracts or the extraction of natural resources � which amount to acts of significant corruption when taking into consideration, among other things, their impact, the amounts involved, the foreign national�s influence or position of authority or the complicity of the government of the foreign state in question in the acts.

Restricted or prohibited activities

(2) Orders and regulations may be made pursuant to paragraph (1)(a) with respect to the restriction or prohibition of any of the following activities, whether carried out in or outside Canada, in relation to a foreign state:

(a) any dealing by any person in Canada or Canadian outside Canada in any property, wherever situated, that is owned � or that is held or controlled, directly or indirectly � by that foreign state, any person in that foreign state, or a national of that foreign state who does not ordinarily reside in Canada;

(b) the exportation, sale, supply or shipment by any person in Canada or Canadian outside Canada of any goods wherever situated to that foreign state or any person in that foreign state, or any other dealing by any person in Canada or Canadian outside Canada in any goods wherever situated destined for that foreign state or any person in that foreign state;

(c) the transfer, provision or communication by any person in Canada or Canadian outside Canada of any technical data to that foreign state or any person in that foreign state;

(d) the importation, purchase, acquisition or shipment by any person in Canada or Canadian outside Canada of any goods that are exported, supplied or shipped from that foreign state after a date specified in the order or regulations, or any other dealing by any person in Canada or Canadian outside Canada in any such goods;

(e) the provision or acquisition by any person in Canada or Canadian outside Canada of financial services or any other services to, from or for the benefit of or on the direction or order of that foreign state or any person in that foreign state;

(f) the docking in that foreign state of ships registered or licensed, or for which an identification number has been issued, pursuant to any Act of Parliament;

(g) the landing in that foreign state of aircraft registered in Canada or operated in connection with a Canadian air service licence;

(h) the docking in or passage through Canada by ships registered in that foreign state or used, leased or chartered, in whole or in part, by or on behalf of or for the benefit of that foreign state or a person in that foreign state; and

(i) the landing in or flight over Canada by aircraft registered in that foreign state or used, leased or chartered, in whole or in part, by or on behalf of or for the benefit of that foreign state or any person in that foreign state.

Weirdly many of these laws apply to Canadians, and with China on the list, could very easily be applied to almost anyone. Oh well, Rules Based Order. God save King Charles.

e: Actually much funnier than I expected,

Special Economic Measures (People�s Republic of China) Permit Authorization Order posted:

SOR/2021-50

SPECIAL ECONOMIC MEASURES ACT

Registration 2021-03-24

Special Economic Measures (People�s Republic of China) Permit Authorization Order

P.C. 2021-180 2021-03-23

His Excellency the Administrator of the Government of Canada in Council, on the recommendation of the Minister of Foreign Affairs, pursuant to subsection 4(4) of the Special Economic Measures Act, authorizes the Minister of Foreign Affairs to issue to any person in Canada or any Canadian outside Canada a permit to carry out a specified activity or transaction, or any class of activity or transaction that is restricted or prohibited under the Special Economic Measures (People�s Republic of China) Regulations.

Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 14:57 on Jun 11, 2023

# ? Jun 11, 2023 14:53

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

Going to be wild when all the foreign registered sea vessels steer wide of Canada for fear of being stolen. There goes all that sea freight.

How long has that antonov been stuck there rusting away anyway? I would love to see someone from Canada try to fly it over to Ukraine from a cold start.

# ? Jun 11, 2023 15:04

Comrade Koba: Jul 2, 2007

gradenko_2000 posted:

https://twitter.com/LawyerRogelio/status/1023367005720731648?t=bHx2kVE3ESQYmiOVKqT-Vw&s=19

long live ~~president~~ comrade doidld tyaumr

# ? Jun 11, 2023 15:06

mlmp08: Jul 11, 2004; Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration; Nap Ghost

These weird little vehicles are pretty neat. Like early game battletech builds if you were making tracked vehicles instead of mechs.

https://twitter.com/ralee85/status/1667713927831224320?s=46&t=fppHBZSlD4AbSz5pJxjFMQ

# ? Jun 11, 2023 15:13

Lostconfused: Oct 1, 2008

drones still work while jammed

https://i.imgur.com/c6GAX6h.mp4

https://i.imgur.com/57lyWY0.mp4

# ? Jun 11, 2023 15:21

Frosted Flake: Sep 13, 2011; Semper Shitpost Ubique

The MT-LB is great for that sort of thing

# ? Jun 11, 2023 15:22

BadOptics: Sep 11, 2012

Frosted Flake posted:

Weirdly many of these laws apply to Canadians, and with China on the list, could very easily be applied to almost anyone. Oh well, Rules Based Order. God save King Charles.

e: Actually much funnier than I expected,

Not sure how the US, which has been "responsible for or complicit in gross violations of internationally-recognized human rights or are foreign public officials, or their associates, who are responsible for or complicit in acts of significant corruption.", is not listed. Seems like an oversight of the rules-based order.

# ? Jun 11, 2023 15:23

Cerebral Bore: Apr 21, 2010; Fun Shoe

Al-Saqr posted:

the guardian is worse than the sun, the guardian is the worst newspaper in that cursed island, because at least the rest of that trash dont pretend to be human, the guardian has pretensions of being anything better than a poo poo slug, which makes them the worst.

# ? Jun 11, 2023 15:24

DancingShade: Jul 26, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

BadOptics posted:

Not sure how the US, which has been "responsible for or complicit in gross violations of internationally-recognized human rights or are foreign public officials, or their associates, who are responsible for or complicit in acts of significant corruption.", is not listed. Seems like an oversight of the rules-based order.

It's the US's rules based order and the king is not subject to the laws of the land.

# ? Jun 11, 2023 15:25

Doktor Avalanche: Dec 30, 2008

Frosted Flake posted:

President Putin's war of choice

# ? Jun 11, 2023 15:28

Doktor Avalanche: Dec 30, 2008

DancingShade posted:

It's the US's rules based order and the king is not subject to the laws of the land.

if the president does it, it's not illegal

# ? Jun 11, 2023 15:28

Cerebral Bore: Apr 21, 2010; Fun Shoe

Frosted Flake posted:

Weirdly many of these laws apply to Canadians, and with China on the list, could very easily be applied to almost anyone. Oh well, Rules Based Order. God save King Charles.

e: Actually much funnier than I expected,

it is kinda impressive how fast the west has destroyed one of its only remaining economic advantages with poo poo like this. just loudly and proudly announcing to the whole world that you can't be trusted to do business with

# ? Jun 11, 2023 15:28

platzapS: Aug 4, 2007

DancingShade posted:

You remember correctly. Drilling their own macbooks with goofy "we're the victim, oh boy we're going to be famous after this" grins on their faces. A good example of early play the victim profiteering.

holy poo poo you weren't exaggerating
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jan/31/footage-released-guardian-editors-snowden-hard-drives-gchq

# ? Jun 11, 2023 15:31

Lostconfused: Oct 1, 2008

Frosted Flake posted:

I don't know how well versed you are in Canadian law, but this is very, very funny and definitely Nothing to Worry About�️

If only this was on the books while we were still detaining Meng Wanzhou.

# ? Jun 11, 2023 15:38

OhFunny: Jun 26, 2013; EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

DancingShade posted:

Going to be wild when all the foreign registered sea vessels steer wide of Canada for fear of being stolen. There goes all that sea freight.

How long has that antonov been stuck there rusting away anyway? I would love to see someone from Canada try to fly it over to Ukraine from a cold start.

Since February 2022.

It landed a few hours before the closure of Canadian airspace went into effect.

# ? Jun 11, 2023 15:48

izagoof: Feb 14, 2004; Grimey Drawer

Lostconfused posted:

drones still work while jammed

https://i.imgur.com/c6GAX6h.mp4

https://i.imgur.com/57lyWY0.mp4

love that these are apparently just running betaflight

# ? Jun 11, 2023 15:49

OctaMurk: Jun 21, 2013

As Ukraine Launches Counteroffensive, Definitions of �Success� Vary
Privately, U.S. and European officials concede that pushing all of Russia�s forces out of occupied Ukrainian land is highly unlikely.

# ? Jun 11, 2023 15:50

mlmp08: Jul 11, 2004; Prepare for my priapic projectile's exalted penetration; Nap Ghost

OctaMurk posted:

Privately, U.S. and European officials concede that pushing all of Russia�s forces out of occupied Ukrainian land is highly unlikely.

Privately? Hell, the US has been saying that in public, on-air press briefings since the war started.

# ? Jun 11, 2023 15:54

Stairmaster: Jun 8, 2012

Weka posted:

Good luck to my friends in this thread in destroying their posting enemies.

Here's some Russian propaganda exposed.

https://twitter.com/simpatico771/status/1667597136270073856

its true but also that guy name seems sus + checkmark

# ? Jun 11, 2023 16:02

Doktor Avalanche: Dec 30, 2008

platzapS posted:

holy poo poo you weren't exaggerating
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2014/jan/31/footage-released-guardian-editors-snowden-hard-drives-gchq

slimy worms

# ? Jun 11, 2023 16:03

sum: Nov 15, 2010

A week in and they're still fighting over Neskuchnoye. I'm surprised they haven't canceled the offensive yet.
https://twitter.com/squatsons/status/1667888227846434816

# ? Jun 11, 2023 16:04

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