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AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

AnimeIsTrash posted:

every party is full of people like this, if you think your vote matters in any regards you are retarded

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Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

The point is to legitimize the things he's talking about, to give a platform to left wing policies. The election itself doesn't even matter that much.

comedyblissoption
Mar 15, 2006

cornel west, surrogate of the jimmy dore show,

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord
lol at sheepdogs pouring out of the woodwork

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
Probation
Can't post for 55 days!

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

well, if it's an op, i have a hard time making sense of the reason for it. the liberal line that "he's gonna take votes from biden" doesn't make sense. how many votes would west realistically get on the "people's party" ticket? which isn't even a party. RFK jr. who is running in the democratic primary actually seems like the roger stone ratfucking candidate who could at least cause some trouble for biden even if it's at the level of being an annoying presence.

but then i thought, what if that's the point? west's "campaign" being a waste of time is the point. who does west appeal to other than "leftists" in a general sense anyways? nobody, that's who! and those are the people you wanna shunt into a no-hoper candidate (like a professor with shock hair) where they can be isolated and ignored. and then once it's over you shut it down. and if they're doing that instead of supporting RFK jr. and being annoying then all the better. west is kinda odd too because he's "alternative" and lefty in a general way but he's not annoying, and his tone is like a moderate liberal, it's christian inspired and is about "bringing people together." the "radical" candidate for the left is hardly radical at all, he just has radical "opinions." and it's a different attitude from "the CIA killed my dad" even if RFK is a crank or whatever.

biden also wants to move to the right in 2024. so he's not really losing anything if he loses the leftists to cornel west. it might even help him.

Maxwells Demon posted:

I work at the same college as Cornell West's current (and sixth) wife. She emails the entire faculty with weird poo poo occasionally.

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord
Cornel West is no angel

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

Maxwells Demon posted:

current (and sixth) wife.

Brother Cornel can get it

Once you go West...

World War Mammories
Aug 25, 2006


I’m voting for cornel west even though he’s not perfect because compromise is an important part of politics

RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007

World War Mammories posted:

I’m voting for cornel west even though he’s not perfect because compromise is an important part of politics

the lesser of the few evils if you will

BrutalistMcDonalds
Oct 4, 2012


Lipstick Apathy

Cpt_Obvious posted:

The point is to legitimize the things he's talking about, to give a platform to left wing policies. The election itself doesn't even matter that much.
that's how i legitimize the things i talk about : getting blown out in a presidential election

Brain Candy
May 18, 2006

BrutalistMcDonalds posted:

that's how i legitimize the things i talk about : getting blown out in a presidential election

why do you care at all about elections, why

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Cpt_Obvious posted:

The point is to legitimize the things he's talking about, to give a platform to left wing policies. The election itself doesn't even matter that much.

Bernie did that but he got 45% of the vote in the primary. West isn't going to be anywhere near that relevant.

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

mcmagic posted:

Bernie did that but he got 45% of the vote in the primary. West isn't going to be anywhere near that relevant.

West isn't running as a Democratic primary candidate.

Uncle Boogeyman
Jul 22, 2007

i'm going to vote for Cornel West in the democratic party primary

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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Willa Rogers posted:

West isn't running as a Democratic primary candidate.

Once again you're missing the point. Bernie had 13 million people actually vote for him in 2016 and 10 million people vote for him in 2020. There was a lot of actual people who supported him that West isn't going to have and it's why Bernie was able to get leftist ideas into the national conversation at least for a small time period.

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

:shrug: I think Bernie's failed campaign radicalized a lot of people and I think west's will do the same.

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

mcmagic posted:

Once again you're missing the point. Bernie had 13 million people actually vote for him in 2016 and 10 million people vote for him in 2020. There was a lot of actual people who supported him that West isn't going to have and it's why Bernie was able to get leftist ideas into the national conversation at least for a small time period.

don't want people to ignore this because bernie later claimed his campaign was a success because of this and that people involved in his campaign got jobs with the biden administration

croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
Probation
Can't post for 55 days!
can i see some of those radicals pls because from where im standing i saw a lot of people check out and get bored with politics after

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

btw, the "leftist idea" bernie got into the national conversation was to elect his good friend who was like him in every way: Joe Biden

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

"Things no one will actually do because no one wants to do them and besides our hands are tied and also did you know there's this person called Joe Manchin who basically has veto power over the whole entire government" counts as the national conversation, I guess.

AnimeIsTrash
Jun 30, 2018

Cpt_Obvious posted:

:shrug: I think Bernie's failed campaign radicalized a lot of people and I think west's will do the same.

yeah now im a fascist

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

mcmagic posted:

Once again you're missing the point. Bernie had 13 million people actually vote for him in 2016 and 10 million people vote for him in 2020. There was a lot of actual people who supported him that West isn't going to have and it's why Bernie was able to get leftist ideas into the national conversation at least for a small time period.

lol

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

I dunno just seems logical to me that if you want people to circumvent the electoral system through other means they must first attempt and fail at using elections to enact change. People don't know that elections can't help them unless they fail to help them. So every election cycle you get a whole new crew of people learning that elections aren't the answer.

That's how people learn best, imo. Through personal experience and investment. That's how I beat sekiro, anyway.

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007

Also third parties make the liberals really mad.

That should be enough.

Honky Mao
Dec 26, 2012

bernie taught a lot of people that politics is for weird sickos who love to lose like a seal jumping up again and again for a piece of fish that will be forever out of reach

CRAZY KNUCKLES FAN
Aug 12, 2022

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Cpt_Obvious posted:

:shrug: I think Bernie's failed campaign radicalized a lot of people and I think west's will do the same.

Yea I guess he was good for radicalizing people into realizing national politics is a complete waste of time and mostly just reality tv for weird hyperneurotic PMC freaks lol

mcmagic
Jul 1, 2004

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bedpan posted:

don't want people to ignore this because bernie later claimed his campaign was a success because of this and that people involved in his campaign got jobs with the biden administration

Any group of people who are working as operatives on a political campaign are going to be highly overrepresented with Ducklo types though..... but that doesn't mean that Bernie didn't have actual people who supported him.

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

Cpt_Obvious posted:

Also third parties make the liberals really mad.

That should be enough.

the party:
https://twitter.com/PeoplesParty_US/status/1299085448787177472?s=20

Pentecoastal Elites
Feb 27, 2007

there's no way cornel west has any reach beyond a fraction of bernie's audience. the idea that west is going to tap a group of people bernie couldn't reach is a weird one.

tristeham
Jul 31, 2022
bernie kkklanders invented socialism in 2016

In Training
Jun 28, 2008

AnimeIsTrash posted:

yeah now im a fascist

Lmfao

World War Mammories
Aug 25, 2006


cornel west is electable if you loving vote for him

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

mcmagic posted:

Any group of people who are working as operatives on a political campaign are going to be highly overrepresented with Ducklo types though..... but that doesn't mean that Bernie didn't have actual people who supported him.

he did, but he just let it evaporate and now he doesn’t. the people that still care about politics after getting radicalized by bernie are:

AnimeIsTrash posted:

yeah now im a fascist

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
let's assume for a moment that mcmagic is right, that Cornel West's campaign is not going to even come close to having the kind of reach that Bernie 2016/2020 did

so what? why would it be a problem that he's trying, even if you knew for a fact that the attempt isn't going to work?

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.
There's only one outsider candidate I support this time around. Hillary Clinton.

fart simpson
Jul 2, 2005

DEATH TO AMERICA
:xickos:

it’s her turn

mawarannahr
May 21, 2019

gradenko_2000 posted:

let's assume for a moment that mcmagic is right, that Cornel West's campaign is not going to even come close to having the kind of reach that Bernie 2016/2020 did

so what? why would it be a problem that he's trying, even if you knew for a fact that the attempt isn't going to work?

there's no real difference between supporting dr west or dr biden. any time invested in either campaign would be better spent posting or watching tv.

docbeard
Jul 19, 2011

mawarannahr posted:

there's no real difference between supporting dr west or dr biden. any time invested in either campaign would be better spent posting or watching tv.

Wait, Dr Jill is running? This changes everything!

Woke Mind Virus
Aug 22, 2005

The only Dr. I'm voting for is Dr. disrespect

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croup coughfield
Apr 8, 2020
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i wonder what the overlap is between anti-west posters now and anti-obama guys in 2008

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