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It's gonna be a hard ten days, waiting for launch, god. I kind of want to replay the demo again because early on I forgot that R2 let you use the REALLY fancy moves and I just regular attack/magic/dodge/parry/countered my way through the fights. Oops! Combat's fun as hell, I want to fight more things, gonna sink my teeth into the post-demo trial stuff later when I've got some more time. Also wow that was a lot of violence! They're using that M rating to the fullest.
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# ? Jun 12, 2023 22:24 |
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# ? Jun 3, 2024 16:02 |
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drat if I already hadn't pre-ordered FF16 I'd preorder it again. This demo is fire.
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# ? Jun 12, 2023 22:54 |
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Ok, based on the Eikon mode the Torgal lines are already getting annoying and I hope they fix the frequency of them occurring
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# ? Jun 12, 2023 22:56 |
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Spermando posted:Is it the parry into ora ora ora? It can be purchased in the demo. That is the one. It's amazing. The way it stops time and lets you go full Jojo is fantastic.
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# ? Jun 12, 2023 23:00 |
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triple sulk posted:Ok, based on the Eikon mode the Torgal lines are already getting annoying and I hope they fix the frequency of them occurring Yeah this drove me crazy and it turns out it’s because of one of those difficulty rings. Just take it off and he’ll shut up
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# ? Jun 12, 2023 23:01 |
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Somehow the combat's even better than I was expecting. This demo is a blast Titan mode is easily my favorite. That parry is incredibly satisfying.
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# ? Jun 12, 2023 23:07 |
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can't wait to overthrow the system of slavery that has persisted for centuries and become so ingrained in Valisthean life
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# ? Jun 12, 2023 23:12 |
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It’s been a good month for laughably, unapologetically evil moms in Final Fantasy.
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# ? Jun 12, 2023 23:19 |
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I still can't figure out parry timing. Does anyone have a good idea it works? I've done it a couple times by complete accident, but never when I'm trying to do it.HD DAD posted:People over on Twitter and Reddit are confirming the demo is an old build. Demo is v.1.01 and apparently they were playing v.1.03 last night at the XVI event. So maybe performance has already been smoothed over. That'd be great if so. It's definitely very noticeable in pretty much all non-combat stuff, so hopefully it's better in the later build.
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# ? Jun 12, 2023 23:29 |
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Demo rules, but I'm most invested in the storyline of the hero chocobo that knocks Clive away from some rubble. I'll gladly give up a traditional RPG party if they give me a cool bird with an eyepatch
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# ? Jun 12, 2023 23:29 |
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Can’t wait for Metia, the very conspicuous and mysterious red star everyone prays to to become extremely relevant in the story at some point lol
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# ? Jun 12, 2023 23:33 |
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HD DAD posted:Can’t wait for Metia, the very conspicuous and mysterious red star everyone prays to to become extremely relevant in the story at some point lol Oops all meteors
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Injuryprone posted:Oops all meteors I’d also throw some money in for ancient lunar orbital space station.
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# ? Jun 12, 2023 23:47 |
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DrakePegasus posted:It’s been a good month for laughably, unapologetically evil moms in Final Fantasy.
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HD DAD posted:I’d also throw some money in for ancient lunar orbital space station. We can probably rule out ancient solar energy collector/prison with an massive eikon stuffed inside it mikemil828 fucked around with this message at 23:58 on Jun 12, 2023 |
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I appreciate that the first naughty word we hear isn't even gently caress
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# ? Jun 13, 2023 00:02 |
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The demo was incredible and I should’ve waited til closer to release to play it
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# ? Jun 13, 2023 00:03 |
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Cid confidently telling Clive to stand back only to immediately eat poo poo is the most Cid thing ever. It's the best.
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# ? Jun 13, 2023 00:08 |
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ImpAtom posted:To be honest I'd try to avoid it. You get a *lot* of defensive options and the ability to extend your perfect dodge window. I didn't experiment with it much but I think that only works with default dodge snd none of the other cool parry/dodge moves I did learn that even though the prompt always says dodge, you can still titan block during the window. I'll try to wean myself off the accessory in the game proper once I unlock more defensive options, then. I just ate a lot of unnecessary hits during the demo because I was slow to react.
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# ? Jun 13, 2023 00:19 |
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Torgal control issues aside, I'm actually pleasantly surprised by the combat being more difficult than I expected. I absolutely ate poo poo against Garuda the first time (though part of that is because I was constantly trying to do perfect dodges instead of just playing it safe and avoiding attacks by running around). Something that wasn't as clear from the preview videos is that you can't just dodge over and over again, and the time window is small enough (even after I upgraded it in the skill interface - btw everyone should remember to do that during the Eikonic challenge mode - you can also try out an extra skill for each Eikon) that you really have to pay attention. Titan block also isn't perfect, since a non-perfect block against boss attacks seems to usually stagger you (so any sort of combo will hit you on the follow-ups). edit: I feel like in practice the way I'm going to end up playing this is to have one Eikon form that is my "main regular fighting one" (with a circle ability that I like) and to just cycle through all of them blowing all their cooldowns whenever they're available. Dynamically switching to use specific skills seems like it'll be a bit much for my brain to handle (outside of situations like "boss is about to shoot a projectile, so switch to Phoenix for the anti-projectile thing"). (Tbh, part of me wishes you were limited to two, since with just two you don't have to keep track of which form you're using. While I'm sure you can get familiar with the specific order you choose, part of my brain will always have to think about things like "if I want to change back to _____ I need to hit L2 twice vs once.") Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 00:29 on Jun 13, 2023 |
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I think it's safe to say that Creative Business Unit 3 is the A team now.
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# ? Jun 13, 2023 00:26 |
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Ytlaya posted:Torgal control issues aside, I'm actually pleasantly surprised by the combat being more difficult than I expected. I absolutely ate poo poo against Garuda the first time (though part of that is because I was constantly trying to do perfect dodges instead of just playing it safe and avoiding attacks by running around). What I found myself doing was having an "aggressive" setup, a "Will breaking" setup and a "big loving hits" setup. For the first I pretty much always used Phoenix, Will breaking has multiple choices but Titan and Garuda are both good in different ways, and Big loving Hits was whatever I had that could deal the biggest damage during Break periods. (Usually one of the more cinematic attacks.) It's kind of hard to just settle on one 'selection' though since there are a ton of different options.
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# ? Jun 13, 2023 00:33 |
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ImpAtom posted:What I found myself doing was having an "aggressive" setup, a "Will breaking" setup and a "big loving hits" setup. For the first I pretty much always used Phoenix, Will breaking has multiple choices but Titan and Garuda are both good in different ways, and Big loving Hits was whatever I had that could deal the biggest damage during Break periods. (Usually one of the more cinematic attacks.) I did the same in terms of "boss vs trash mobs" (since it doesn't seem to make sense to use the AoE abilities against a boss when you can instead use something like the counter-focused abilities). But I was thinking more in terms of how often I switch Eikon forms during combat. The way I mostly did it was to stick to one where I liked the O attack (I ended up like the Phoenix one for the mobility, and it seems more reliable in general to "move yourself to an enemy" than the other way around), and once abilities were off cool-down I'd just swap through all 3 forms and blow all their cooldowns. With the main exception to this being "when a boss is getting close-ish to being broken" (since I want all of them up for that).
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# ? Jun 13, 2023 00:37 |
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Feel like I was having trouble with the combat system when just fighting groups of mobs. It was during the last boss fight in the trial was where I really got the combat. I feel like the boss fights will be where this game really shines.
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# ? Jun 13, 2023 00:41 |
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loving love Fiona Apple posted:Feel like I was having trouble with the combat system when just fighting groups of mobs. It was during the last boss fight in the trial was where I really got the combat. I feel like the boss fights will be where this game really shines. Yeah, with trash mobs it doesn't feel possible to do much with things like dodging/parrying. The best approach I could find seemed to be "just aggressively destroy them with your Eikon skills." The bosses are good because you can pay attention to them specifically. (btw I still don't understand parrying - if someone figured out how to do that, let me know, because it's bugging me that I could never figure out what it wants out of the timing)
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# ? Jun 13, 2023 00:44 |
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Nelson Mandingo posted:I think it's safe to say that Creative Business Unit 3 is the A team now. When were they not? Shadowbringers was the best final fantasy
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Watching people going through the extremes of emotion from this demo is loving fantastic.
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# ? Jun 13, 2023 01:05 |
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Clive’s mom is a bitch.
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# ? Jun 13, 2023 01:05 |
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You will not speak ill of Mrs. Clyde
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# ? Jun 13, 2023 01:09 |
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Wow. Only played the first 30 min or so thus far but this is to me maybe the first PS5 game where it's clear as day it was not also developed for the PS4. Granted, I haven't played that many.
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# ? Jun 13, 2023 01:11 |
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Fabulous Knight posted:Wow. Only played the first 30 min or so thus far but this is to me maybe the first PS5 game where it's clear as day it was not also developed for the PS4. RE4Make was like this, but they made a PS4 version anyway. There were no surviviors.
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# ? Jun 13, 2023 01:21 |
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The goblins sound like Donald Duck.
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# ? Jun 13, 2023 01:21 |
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If anything happens to Torgal I will kill everyone present and then myself
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# ? Jun 13, 2023 01:26 |
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How did Torgal survive that massive fireblast anyway
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# ? Jun 13, 2023 01:28 |
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Ibblebibble posted:How did Torgal survive that massive fireblast anyway Who says he did
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# ? Jun 13, 2023 01:29 |
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Just to make sure I wasn't missing something, the game is very strongly implying that Clive himself turned into Ifrit and killed his brother, right? Like there's stuff from the previews that seemingly contradicts that (namely Benedicta/Waloed having the "Dominant of Fire" in their custody), but I'm not sure how else to explain Clive collapsing instantly before Ifrit appears and somehow being present for Ifrit killing his brother - seen through a filter similar to Joshua's when he was Phoenix - plus the firy guy/hooded guy seemingly being someone who only Clive could seeDetective No. 27 posted:Clive’s mom is a bitch. Wrong - clearly she was simply unhappy with the way Rosalia treated its slaves. Ytlaya fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Jun 13, 2023 |
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HD DAD posted:Can’t wait for Metia, the very conspicuous and mysterious red star everyone prays to to become extremely relevant in the story at some point lol Watch it turn out to be Lavos
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# ? Jun 13, 2023 01:34 |
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The good mom to evil mom ratio in final fantasy is actually pretty even isnt it? Trying to think of which moms there are. Aerith had a good mom, and Hope had a tough mom. Garnet had evil mom, and now we have Clive. Am I missing anyone though?
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# ? Jun 13, 2023 01:39 |
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I said come in! posted:The good mom to evil mom ratio in final fantasy is actually pretty even isnt it? Trying to think of which moms there are. Aerith had a good mom, and Hope had a tough mom. Garnet had evil mom, and now we have Clive. Am I missing anyone though? Tidus's mom kind of sucked and apparently just stopped parenting after his dad left.
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seymour's mom was good but also kind of hosed him up
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