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kyojin
Jun 15, 2005

I MASHED THE KEYS AND LOOK WHAT I MADE
Thank you plastic

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Sep 6, 2006

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Hubbert posted:

sir, that's known as a vichy vintage

i laughed at this

Tungsten
Aug 10, 2004

Your Working Boy

MightyBigMinus posted:

its like we made original sin real

it was already real, just not metaphysical

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe
It's been spring for a little while but between wildfire smoke, rain or unseasonable coldness or pain, I haven't gotten out to observe the little patch of nature around my apartment.

Yesterday I sat outside and it was just an incredible amount of birdsong. Based on my observations, I think we have least eight different species* around us rn.

All last year we fed them roasted in-shell peanuts and sunflower seeds. Regulars have probably seen some of these pictures:




The goal was to ultimately befriend these creatures so that they would give us presents. Like feathers and little shiny things and maybe even some bugs! Other than what the nuthatches smear everywhere to keep us safe from predators :3:

This morning was another nice weather day so I sat outside to have my coffee. Cat sat in my lap and I tossed a bunch of peanuts and sunflower seeds around the area, off the edge of the balcony.

I heard a bunch of weird chirps and blue jay coos and croaks, and a mangy-looking fledgling clumsily flew over and perched on one of the farther branches from me, but still right in front of me. I had no camera or anything and I didn't want to move. A couple more tiny, hideous birds arrayed themselves on the branch.

Then I saw one of our blue jays (I think I can recognize a couple individuals but not this one, from this distance) sort of supervising from a healthy distance to the right, and another one landed in the tree to the left of these little birds and they all just kind of sat there, preening for a few minutes while I watched.

When they left, I checked what blue jay fledglings look like and I'm pretty sure they were introducing me to their family because we fed them enough for a nice, healthy brood.

After the morning rush, all the horrible machine noises of the urban day replace the bird song and it's back to business, but I feel very held and regarded by the silly little pocket of nature around my balcony.

* crows, of course, blue jays, european starlings, nuthatches, chickadees, robins, woodpeckers (downy or pileated, not sure) and I just saw house sparrows which are new to the neighbourhood this year.

r u ready to WALK
Sep 29, 2001

I've always heard that brain plasticity is a good thing :confused:

AceClown
Sep 11, 2005

tuyop posted:

It's been spring for a little while but between wildfire smoke, rain or unseasonable coldness or pain, I haven't gotten out to observe the little patch of nature around my apartment.

Yesterday I sat outside and it was just an incredible amount of birdsong. Based on my observations, I think we have least eight different species* around us rn.

All last year we fed them roasted in-shell peanuts and sunflower seeds. Regulars have probably seen some of these pictures:




The goal was to ultimately befriend these creatures so that they would give us presents. Like feathers and little shiny things and maybe even some bugs! Other than what the nuthatches smear everywhere to keep us safe from predators :3:

This morning was another nice weather day so I sat outside to have my coffee. Cat sat in my lap and I tossed a bunch of peanuts and sunflower seeds around the area, off the edge of the balcony.

I heard a bunch of weird chirps and blue jay coos and croaks, and a mangy-looking fledgling clumsily flew over and perched on one of the farther branches from me, but still right in front of me. I had no camera or anything and I didn't want to move. A couple more tiny, hideous birds arrayed themselves on the branch.

Then I saw one of our blue jays (I think I can recognize a couple individuals but not this one, from this distance) sort of supervising from a healthy distance to the right, and another one landed in the tree to the left of these little birds and they all just kind of sat there, preening for a few minutes while I watched.

When they left, I checked what blue jay fledglings look like and I'm pretty sure they were introducing me to their family because we fed them enough for a nice, healthy brood.

After the morning rush, all the horrible machine noises of the urban day replace the bird song and it's back to business, but I feel very held and regarded by the silly little pocket of nature around my balcony.

* crows, of course, blue jays, european starlings, nuthatches, chickadees, robins, woodpeckers (downy or pileated, not sure) and I just saw house sparrows which are new to the neighbourhood this year.

This is wonderful and adorable, thank you for posting it

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice
cool bird post :shobon:

tuyop
Sep 15, 2006

Every second that we're not growing BASIL is a second wasted

Fun Shoe
thanks :)

You know that part in Exterminate All The Brutes where they quote an Indigenous leader who asks one of the first colonial leaders "Why would you take through violence that which we would happily give you out of love?" It loving feels exactly like that, except every single organism around us is a related and necessary part of making a life in a place and they give us all we need out of love. Sucks.

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004

celadon posted:

yeah the response to covid was what broke me of any hope that we could even remotely handle climate change

and then china dropping zero covid broke me of the hope i didnt realize i still had that china could at least handle some of it

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

r u ready to WALK posted:

I've always heard that brain plasticity is a good thing :confused:

Well it's time to put that brain plasticity into use then and start realising it's bad actually

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice

celadon posted:

yeah the response to covid was what broke me of any hope that we could even remotely handle climate change

and then china dropping zero covid broke me of the hope i didnt realize i still had that china could at least handle some of it

same

Cold on a Cob posted:

for real, people have trouble with accepting a no-win scenario

the real kicker for me right now is i don't think the covid pandemic is a no-win scenario but the fact we're not winning is part of the reason i think we're hosed for climate change.

lol. lmao.


Cold on a Cob posted:

having people lecture anyone presenting totally plausible zero-covid ideas as "unrealistic" because a hard 4 week lockdown might make NUMBER sad while turning around and calling people like me idiot nihilist doomers for thinking we won't be able to stop runaway climate change is real loving funny

SplitSoul
Dec 31, 2000

Love pumpkin bird. :stoked:

Stereotype
Apr 24, 2010

College Slice

MightyBigMinus posted:

its like we made original sin real

lol

Harold Fjord
Jan 3, 2004

MightyBigMinus posted:

its like we made original sin real


cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

I am interested in most phases of data processing.

a strange fowl posted:

i was smugging to myself recently because i don't have children, not because i don't want them but because i want a totally informed opinion first on the various environmental dangers they will be exposed to so i can protect them. not like all these other idiots popping out babies and drenching them in pfas and pesticides. i am a smart.

but then i realised that my ovaries have been inside me all this time, long before i knew about any of this poo poo. it actually doesn't matter what i do - the cumulative poison is already there, in my eggs. there is absolutely no way i can avoid exposing a hypothetical baby to all this poo poo, because my body is where it will grow, and that's already poisoned.

ping!
pictured: your eggs

ben shapino
Nov 22, 2020

Lmao if you had hope even before COVID. Have you ever looked around you or interacted with people at all lol

U-DO Burger
Nov 12, 2007




MightyBigMinus posted:

its like we made original sin real

lol

Thorn Wishes Talon
Oct 18, 2014

by Fluffdaddy
it started going down :smug:

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.

Thorn Wishes Talon posted:

it started going down :smug:



Democrats made it feel better

Soggy Muffin
Jul 29, 2003

tuyop posted:

It's been spring for a little while but between wildfire smoke, rain or unseasonable coldness or pain, I haven't gotten out to observe the little patch of nature around my apartment.

Yesterday I sat outside and it was just an incredible amount of birdsong. Based on my observations, I think we have least eight different species* around us rn.

All last year we fed them roasted in-shell peanuts and sunflower seeds. Regulars have probably seen some of these pictures:




The goal was to ultimately befriend these creatures so that they would give us presents. Like feathers and little shiny things and maybe even some bugs! Other than what the nuthatches smear everywhere to keep us safe from predators :3:

This morning was another nice weather day so I sat outside to have my coffee. Cat sat in my lap and I tossed a bunch of peanuts and sunflower seeds around the area, off the edge of the balcony.

I heard a bunch of weird chirps and blue jay coos and croaks, and a mangy-looking fledgling clumsily flew over and perched on one of the farther branches from me, but still right in front of me. I had no camera or anything and I didn't want to move. A couple more tiny, hideous birds arrayed themselves on the branch.

Then I saw one of our blue jays (I think I can recognize a couple individuals but not this one, from this distance) sort of supervising from a healthy distance to the right, and another one landed in the tree to the left of these little birds and they all just kind of sat there, preening for a few minutes while I watched.

When they left, I checked what blue jay fledglings look like and I'm pretty sure they were introducing me to their family because we fed them enough for a nice, healthy brood.

After the morning rush, all the horrible machine noises of the urban day replace the bird song and it's back to business, but I feel very held and regarded by the silly little pocket of nature around my balcony.

* crows, of course, blue jays, european starlings, nuthatches, chickadees, robins, woodpeckers (downy or pileated, not sure) and I just saw house sparrows which are new to the neighbourhood this year.

Phew, thought you were gonna say the baby birds died from too much plastic or something

im_sorry
Jan 15, 2006

(9999)
Ultra Carp

"Ask your doctor if Cialis is right for you"

Wakko
Jun 9, 2002
Faboo!

ben shapino posted:

Lmao if you had hope even before COVID. Have you ever looked around you or interacted with people at all lol

rite? i have never once wavered in my certainty of our success at changing the climate. a certainty arrived at through the rare and difficult sociological process of "spending 10 minutes in a grocery store parking lot"

Paradoxish
Dec 19, 2003

Will you stop going crazy in there?
It's a good thing that large bodies of water are well known for their quick temperature changes and ability to rapidly shed heat

ben shapino
Nov 22, 2020

Like 15 years ago, a high school friend was adamant that climate change wouldn't really affect our lives or our kids lives, that the effects were decades or centuries away.

I explained to him that heavily populated areas and regions that grow our food will feel the worst effects first, and that will lead to mass immigration, migrant crises, and food shortages, all of which will impact our quality of life as everything gets more expensive or unattainable, so yes climate change will affect both of us as well as any kids we might have within our lifetimes. Unequivocally.

He sort of saw what I was getting at, but still insisted it won't be as bad as everyone makes it sound.

He has 6 kids now.





Lol

BoothBaberGinsburg
Jan 4, 2021

ben shapino posted:

Like 15 years ago, a high school friend was adamant that climate change wouldn't really affect our lives or our kids lives, that the effects were decades or centuries away.

I explained to him that heavily populated areas and regions that grow our food will feel the worst effects first, and that will lead to mass immigration, migrant crises, and food shortages, all of which will impact our quality of life as everything gets more expensive or unattainable, so yes climate change will affect both of us as well as any kids we might have within our lifetimes. Unequivocally.

He sort of saw what I was getting at, but still insisted it won't be as bad as everyone makes it sound.

He has 6 kids now.





Lol

yeah, to help him rule the wasteland while u cry on a pile of animes. sorry childfreeailures!

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

ben shapino posted:

Like 15 years ago, a high school friend was adamant that climate change wouldn't really affect our lives or our kids lives, that the effects were decades or centuries away.

I explained to him that heavily populated areas and regions that grow our food will feel the worst effects first, and that will lead to mass immigration, migrant crises, and food shortages, all of which will impact our quality of life as everything gets more expensive or unattainable, so yes climate change will affect both of us as well as any kids we might have within our lifetimes. Unequivocally.

He sort of saw what I was getting at, but still insisted it won't be as bad as everyone makes it sound.

He has 6 kids now.





Lol

plants were really big during the Jurassic period so food crops will be really big and healthy as climate change gets worse

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

"The weather is never as bad as the forecast"

My dad said this to me one day. No idea where he got it

celadon
Jan 2, 2023

bedpan posted:

plants were really big during the Jurassic period so food crops will be really big and healthy as climate change gets worse

I thought I saw something that food would be higher in carbohydrates but not protein or vitamins or anything as a result of increased co2. So bigger food but it’s not healthier

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice

bedpan posted:

"The weather is never as bad as the forecast"

My dad said this to me one day. No idea where he got it

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wet_bias

it's true but it has nothing to do with climate change, of course

silicone thrills
Jan 9, 2008

I paint things
Its fine we already hosed up our food anyway

https://www.bbc.com/future/bespoke/follow-the-food/why-modern-food-lost-its-nutrients/

Thorn Wishes Talon
Oct 18, 2014

by Fluffdaddy
i was talking to a guy about increasing CO2 levels and he said "well at least trees are growing faster now since there's more CO2 in the air"

:psyduck:

Koirhor
Jan 14, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
heat kicked on last night got down to 48 and high of 65 today, apocalypse cancelled

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice

Thorn Wishes Talon posted:

i was talking to a guy about increasing CO2 levels and he said "well at least trees are growing faster now since there's more CO2 in the air"

:psyduck:

oh cool so the monoculture tree farms of canada being all on fire means we'll just see exponential tree growth

i'm sorry what? grow zones? what the gently caress are those?

bedpan
Apr 23, 2008

Cold on a Cob posted:

oh cool so the monoculture tree farms of canada being all on fire means we'll just see exponential tree growth

i'm sorry what? grow zones? what the gently caress are those?

our civilization is entirely unsuited to grapple with climate change. more effort and time will be spent on denying climate change exists than in addressing the climate change reality

BoothBaberGinsburg
Jan 4, 2021

my six strapping sons with plastics-enhanced skeletons will be carrying me aloft their shoulders while we scavenge a burnt out costco

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!

Thorn Wishes Talon posted:

i was talking to a guy about increasing CO2 levels and he said "well at least trees are growing faster now since there's more CO2 in the air"

:psyduck:

The oil industry put out a "co2 is plant food" disinfo campaign starting about 2010.


The flaws with this are easy to point out and irrelevant because they aren't backed with literally billions.

Cold on a Cob
Feb 6, 2006

i've seen so much, i'm going blind
and i'm brain dead virtually

College Slice

BoothBaberGinsburg posted:

my six strapping sons with plastics-enhanced skeletons will be carrying me aloft their shoulders while we scavenge a burnt out costco

most westerners think the climate apocalypse will play out like fallout 3 and they'll be the main character

also... i just had a realization that of loving course the north american post-apocalyptic fantasy world has cows in it, americans can't imagine a world without hamburgers or steak

BoothBaberGinsburg
Jan 4, 2021

Cold on a Cob posted:

most westerners think the climate apocalypse will play out like fallout 3 and they'll be the main character

also... i just had a realization that of loving course the north american post-apocalyptic fantasy world has cows in it, americans can't imagine a world without hamburgers or steak

yeah but i guess i can't blame anyone for daydreaming that they'll be mad max instead of like dying anonymously in a flood or from heat stroke or what have you

brakeless
Apr 11, 2011

Thorn Wishes Talon posted:

i was talking to a guy about increasing CO2 levels and he said "well at least trees are growing faster now since there's more CO2 in the air"

:psyduck:

true, to an extent

CO2 fertilization is a real effect that has played a part in an observed global "greening" over the past decades and has contributed to the continously increasing land carbon sink

of course there are other factors in biomass growth and IIRC research has already seen indicators that this increased growth rate has already begun to slow down on the average globally

the kicker to this stuff is that the huge GHG concentration increases have happened at a time when the earth system mechanisms that remove carbon from the atmosphere have been constantly strengthening, if they stop doing so in the future it will be one more extremely funny graph to add to the collection

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Pf. Hikikomoriarty
Feb 15, 2003

RO YNSHO


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ikanreed posted:

The oil industry put out a "co2 is plant food" disinfo campaign starting about 2010.


The flaws with this are easy to point out and irrelevant because they aren't backed with literally billions.

you could probably get a lib to pause by blaming oil industry propaganda on the russians

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