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moths posted:The new MtG set depicts Aragorn from LotR as a Black man, which feels like someone there is finally telling the hateful contingent to get hosed. They did stuff like that before - only to back down later. For example mentions of Nissa and Chandra being lesbian has been painted over for china market Mors Rattus posted:Nah, the Ariadnans look like army dudes, which gets you a different kind of guy than the guys who have Catholic power armor. Maybe so - I thought "HUHA MURICA" faction would appeal to the same type of asswipe
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Covermeinsunshine posted:They did stuff like that before - only to back down later. For example mentions of Nissa and Chandra being lesbian has been painted over for china market It's one thing to pick and choose between demos within a market. It's another to be afraid of being kicked out wholesale from one. Lots of companies entering the Chinese market engage in preemptive censorship out of the fear of government censors refusing a product (and thus the company taking a financial hit remaking products and possibly delaying release)
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Backing down from China is a lot less of a moral failing than yielding to someone like Sean Hannedy or whoever.
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There isn't really any practical difference. Especially when the overwhelming majority of "this was for china" self censorship isn't even about conforming to Chinese law so much as avoiding making the Sean Hannities of China mad about it.
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I know they got blasted pretty hard for the bi/gay erasure in War of the Spark, though that controversy seems positively tiny compared every other thing they've hosed up since. I had thought there was something in MOM or Aftermath that had greater clarity on the canon of their relationship, but I can't find it except maybe implied on Open The Way. Maybe I am conflating people talking about the supporting fiction and it wasn't an actual card.
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The MOM fiction ends on Chandra and Nissa kissing. And the MoM Aftermath fiction has a story with Nissa and Chandra figuring out where their relationship is after the previously mentioned War of the Spark fiction that apparently broke them up. TL;DR: Chandra is a pansexual disaster who hadn't really had a serious relationship before and was still trying to figure out "I wanna bone that dude/girl" and "I wanna have a long term fulfilling relationship with that dude/girl" as different impulses requiring different responses. They figure their poo poo out, become official, and head off to wander the multiverse together, trying to find their way back to Zendikar via Omenpaths as represented in Open the Way. There's also Saheeli and Huatli's relationship that's referenced/referred to on several cards but as far as we know they've both been desparked and are stranded on different planes so it's unclear how that will proceed.
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Kurieg posted:The MOM fiction ends on Chandra and Nissa kissing. And the MoM Aftermath fiction has a story with Nissa and Chandra figuring out where their relationship is after the previously mentioned War of the Spark fiction that apparently broke them up. That's a nice change from Greg Weisman of Gargoyles fame writing about how no really Chandra was only into big muscly men with big muscles.
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If we are counting down Ral Zarek and Lukka were gay as well while Ashiok is nb if I remember correctly.
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Terrible Opinions posted:There isn't really any practical difference. Especially when the overwhelming majority of "this was for china" self censorship isn't even about conforming to Chinese law so much as avoiding making the Sean Hannities of China mad about it. Did they make the change globally to appease China? That's different than my understanding, where it was like WoW in that they make a region-approved version that doesn't have any LGBT or skeletons.
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Ominous Jazz posted:40k lost the "parody" of its settling a LONG time ago especially with the imperium and doubly especially with the Space Marines who are always cool even in failure even in death even in eternal servitude.
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The point under discussion here in particular WotC retconning a gay relationship globally, which was then blamed on China. Then according to other posts here the retcon was walked back.
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I missed that, sorry. That's hosed up.
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moths posted:I missed that, sorry. That's hosed up. Lucky for them book that was done in was really poo poo so everyone forgot about it
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Covermeinsunshine posted:If we are counting down Ral Zarek and Lukka were gay as well while Ashiok is nb if I remember correctly. Ral Zarek is in a relationship with Tomek. Lukka was a goddamn moron who seemed to actively align himself with every villain he could find and no one mourns his passing. Covermeinsunshine posted:Lucky for them book that was done in was really poo poo so everyone forgot about it Yeah, Forsaken was a bad book with plot and lore inconsistencies on par with That One Mass Effect Book so beyond acknowledging the broad strokes of what happened it's basically ignored in the greater canon of the plot.
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Looks like NuTSR are over. Declared bankruptcy and asking for a stay on the Wotc lawsuit.
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Terrible Opinions posted:The point under discussion here in particular WotC retconning a gay relationship globally, which was then blamed on China. Then according to other posts here the retcon was walked back. Yeah, they walked it back and basically put out an article on their website saying they're instead just going to not post those stories in markets where they are illegal instead of trying to make a product where they don't have to change anything. So I guess don't expect to ever see it on card art.
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Which functionally means any and all gay content must be so unimportant that it can be easily excised for export without causing confusion. It's also usually not about actual legality, but rather appeasing busy body social groups that will complain to advertisers.
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Deptfordx posted:Looks like NuTSR are over. Declared bankruptcy and asking for a stay on the Wotc lawsuit. imagine being ernie gygax right now
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Make a bunch of real good broken cards with gay art on them and release two booster categories, one with the gay and one where those cards just aren't pullable.
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Deptfordx posted:Looks like NuTSR are over. Declared bankruptcy and asking for a stay on the Wotc lawsuit. Play stupid games, win stupid prizes. I can't see how they thought this would go.
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Splicer posted:Make a bunch of real good broken cards with gay art on them and release two booster categories, one with the gay and one where those cards just aren't pullable.
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Nutsr also had to compete with a poker thing called nutsr of Google is anything to go by
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The Chinese printing of Open the Way has the exact same art. I'd need someone to translate the flavor text on the chinese version of gold forged thoptyryx to see if they edited out the reference to huatli/saheeli but it looks like it's in the other languages.
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Drakyn posted:Portray the space marines as skaven stormvermin. You want to deromanticize the fascists in 40k, you pull off the glamour and the glitz and start writing them the same way you do your compulsively backstabbing wunderwaffen-addicted failurerats. I've always felt like the Pigmask Army from Mother 3 were far and away the most accurate portrayal of fascists in media: stupid, incompetent, obsessed with gizmos that don't work, ideologically bankrupt, but still dangerous because they escalated to eleven before anybody got round to taking them seriously.
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NuTSR owner Justin Lenasa listed himself and another of his businesses as the primary creditors for nuTSR, so this is 100% him finally realizing he was going to lose and trying to weasel his way out of having to pay anything. Including his own lawyers, as they're the rest of the creditors.
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This is a big win for LaNasa. Thanks to the TSR fiasco, the first Google result for his name is no longer a fine for unpaid taxes. LaNasa is a business owner and general real-estate slimeball, so I suppose he needs/needed to arrange things carefully so that WotC can't go after his assets. (Interestingly, he invented a gravity knife that attaches to a Picatinny rail. In case you need to carry a fighting knife, and you already have an assault rifle, but aren't wearing pants.)
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Whybird posted:I've always felt like the Pigmask Army from Mother 3 were far and away the most accurate portrayal of fascists in media: stupid, incompetent, obsessed with gizmos that don't work, ideologically bankrupt, but still dangerous because they escalated to eleven before anybody got round to taking them seriously. Had a banger theme though
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Halloween Jack posted:(Interestingly, he invented a gravity knife that attaches to a Picatinny rail. In case you need to carry a fighting knife, and you already have an assault rifle, but aren't wearing pants.) Had a look and this is even stupider than it sounds. It’s basically a sharpened spike that pops out of your vertical foregrip when you flick a button. I’m absolutely, 100% sure it won’t ever snag on your gear and accidentally make you stab yourself in a randomly chosen part of your body.
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Covermeinsunshine posted:Maybe so - I thought "HUHA MURICA" faction would appeal to the same type of asswipe Infinity America is explicitly a backwater Disneyfied version of America that's under the thumb of the Infinity Russians, so you can imagine how well that goes over with the chudlier populace Corvus Belli is stupid in entirely different ways, like trying to reach out to the Eastern European market by going in on Tuetonic Knights, or going hog wild on support for Infinity Russia right before the invasion.
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Comrade Koba posted:Had a look and this is even stupider than it sounds. It’s basically a sharpened spike that pops out of your vertical foregrip when you flick a button. I’m absolutely, 100% sure it won’t ever snag on your gear and accidentally make you stab yourself in a randomly chosen part of your body.
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grassy gnoll posted:Infinity America is explicitly a backwater Disneyfied version of America that's under the thumb of the Infinity Russians, so you can imagine how well that goes over with the chudlier populace Oh yeah that's right the russian were-bears were introduced right before the invasion lol.
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Kurieg posted:Oh yeah that's right the russian were-bears were introduced right before the invasion lol. Or the 'Armata-2' heavy infantry Ratnik troopers, those came out in 2020, but they actually exist unlike the T-14.
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Drakyn posted:Portray the space marines as skaven stormvermin. You want to deromanticize the fascists in 40k, you pull off the glamour and the glitz and start writing them the same way you do your compulsively backstabbing wunderwaffen-addicted failurerats. Bonus point is that this way they can be even more entertaining because they're a lot funnier.
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Halloween Jack posted:Interestingly, he invented a gravity knife that attaches to a Picatinny rail. In case you need to carry a fighting knife, and you already have an assault rifle, but aren't wearing pants. This is always happening to me. 
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Deptfordx posted:Looks like NuTSR are over. Declared bankruptcy and asking for a stay on the Wotc lawsuit. Here's a Polygon article reporting on it https://www.polygon.com/23759783/dnd-dungeons-dragons-lawsuit-tsr-bankrupt-chapter-7
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Xelkelvos posted:Here's a Polygon article reporting on it quote:Documents filed in North Carolina paint a grim picture for TSR. They show gross revenue for the first 23 weeks of the year of just $621.93. Total liabilities — which include money owed to LaNasa himself, as well as another of his businesses, plus legal fees — total $384,941.99.
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Tekopo posted:Documents filed in North Carolina paint a grim picture for TSR. They show gross revenue for the first 23 weeks of the year of just $621.93. Total liabilities — which include money owed to LaNasa himself, as well as another of his businesses, plus legal fees — total $384,941.99.
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dwarf74 posted:Someone who is good at the economy, please help me, my family is dying spend less on being racist
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