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Mailer posted:Note that none of this matters and we all reset for season one in a few weeks, so do whatever floats your boat. …I assumed you can just keep playing in non season though, same as D3?
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If FOMO number not go up why bother (I too will be playing a main steadily and slowly when seasons hit)
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Jun 15, 2023 11:28
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my ancestral pants have +1,000 hp on them, which is an absolutely shockingly large number for one piece of gear. Itemization has subtle traps where a stat won’t matter much early and then all of the sudden the game will be balanced around having a truckload of it once difficulty ramps at end game.
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Jun 15, 2023 11:32
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Avalerion posted:…I assumed you can just keep playing in non season though, same as D3? I mean I could be totally wrong, but I'm assuming it's going to go the path of D3 where seasons contain all the gimmicks/changes. So you can keep grinding away, but you don't get The New poo poo(c) and those variations are what keep it fun. Personally, and this is just my broke brain, I love the idea they currently have in D3 (and may/may not in D4) of doing all their nerf/buff cycles between the seasons. My S9 Wizard sucks now because they nerfed Wand of Woh? Oh well, who cares, I'll roll a DH because they're good this season and not a thing of value was lost. The seasonal curve will accelerate me back to the endgame and oh look I'm having fun again. Not fearing the hammer on every patch is a nice change of pace.
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Jun 15, 2023 11:55
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Tried doing a tier 20 NM dungeon, got to the boss, got hit with the desync, forced to re-log in, no more dungeon. Great loving game.
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Jun 15, 2023 12:07
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i hope they have a good gimmick, new mechanic, or items to introduce for season 1. i dont imagine they will have much but who knows, maybe they'll hint something tomorrow not sure what class ill play
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Jun 15, 2023 12:18
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Herstory Begins Now posted:im curious what the chat is meant to be for because they've already made what were, as far as I could tell, unambiguous statements about what progress carries over into seasons. if anything I expect them to walk back some of the carry-over progress that they promised, but idk maybe I'll be wrong Considering the question of what carries over gets asked every page and the only actual answer that was ever given was statues, everything else has just been speculation and implied from vague statements. They have not anywhere unambiguously laid out how seasons work in diablo 4 and what carries over. Hopefully this will be resolved tomorrow
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Jun 15, 2023 12:18
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I wouldnt be surprised if they delay S1 too. I just wouldn’t hold the devs to anything they said about it pre-launch, now that the team has player data and is triaging millions of hours of player feedback.
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Jun 15, 2023 12:24
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Mr Beens posted:Considering the question of what carries over gets asked every page and the only actual answer that was ever given was statues, everything else has just been speculation and implied from vague statements. oh yeah you're right, I thought they'd said more but I guess I'm misremembering.
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Accidentally overwrote by build defining affix and cut my dps in half haha. Oh well
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That Little Demon posted:Sure, let’s waste our time changing 120 dungeons because of PoETarded brains. Great idea!! TLD you dingus! you should have said you hung out with POE players in order to use that slur, like that guy who said they were friends with aussies did to get away with using the c-slur earlier in the thread
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Jun 15, 2023 12:45
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Mekchu posted:TLD you dingus! you should have said you hung out with POE players in order to use that slur, like that guy who said they were friends with aussies did to get away with using the c-slur earlier in the thread Skill issue. Edit: also not a guy
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orphean posted:If their 'campfire chat' is anything more than answering staged softball questions and spinning everything they're doing as Logical and Right For The Game I will seriously be utterly shocked. There will be a lot of that, but it’s also supposed to have info about season 1. https://twitter.com/RodFergusson/status/1668870279127519232?s=20
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thats not candy posted:i hope they have a good gimmick, new mechanic, or items to introduce for season 1. i dont imagine they will have much but who knows, maybe they'll hint something tomorrow it's going to be the season of zombies as was repeated numerous times during their last stream just an unending stream of those exploding bloated corpses that don't drop their loot until after you've moved on and they finally pop
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CharlestonJew posted:I unlocked WT4 last night at level 64 and now everything is 9 levels above me at minimum and fights are actually hard again. Any recommendations on what I should do next to progress? I tried the lowest level Ancestral NM dungeon I could make and it whooped my rear end lol Just go gently caress around in the over-world until you get an ancestral weapon to drop. Even a blue will probably out-damage your current weapon.
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Jun 15, 2023 13:02
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Cyrano4747 posted:I've hit a bit of a wall with my 65-ish necro and I think I'm just over the play style for right now. Self quoting because I'm still looking for this. Ideally something with active combat but that doesn't require me to play my keyboard like it's a jazz piano. Necro has just started feeling pretty ploddy to me (which is also a concern I've had about the druid) so I'm kind of prioritizing a gotta go fast mentality right now. Just trying to shake things up.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Self quoting because I'm still looking for this. melee rogue leapquake (more active) or frenzy barb (less active, but fast) I think sorc has some fast teleport setup dunno
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NoNotTheMindProbe posted:I didn't 100% the snow biome. I did a handful of dungeons, some side quests, a couple forts and the main quests. Well if you're playing 30 minutes a day only on weekends yeah I can see why you'd be a little ways away from endgame.
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placing my bet on no progress is carried over to the new season.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Self quoting because I'm still looking for this. Pulverize Druid is a lot of fun but takes a while to come online. The build didn't really click until around level 40, and there was a huge jump in power when I (loving finally) got the shockwave aspect at level 58-59.
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Blizzard has decided ALL progression carries over to season 1. And then players will Benjamin Button back to level 1, fighting gradually harder monsters with declining stats.
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Herstory Begins Now posted:placing my bet on no progress is carried over to the new season. I've been talking to non-ARPG friends (who have gotten very into D4) about this topic. My broken ARPG brain is fully prepared to do everything over again each season. Meanwhile, they're all saying they will never play seasonal if it means having to re-do renown, altars, etc. Cynically, I think their goal as a live service game is to get you logged in as many hours as possible each season to get you to buy stuff. Carrying over progress works against that goal. I just wonder how many casual people they might lose altogether if nothing is carried over. I also wondered if they could have some option to have ladder/non ladder seasonal characters. Let people reuse seasonal characters or some form of progress (renown, altars) if they want, but have separate ladder characters who start from scratch and can be part of leaderboards and whatnot. I don't know if they want to splinter the player base like that though. This huge open world design and all this side content does feel at odds with the classic ARPG season start from scratch formula. Maybe they have something creative up their sleeve. they don't
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I've had a great campaign and a good casual leveling of alts while I settle in to gradually polishing off 100% completion with a little bit a day. Good fun ARPG itch scratching. Push NMs and see how far I can go on stupid builds. The idea of a seasonal reset is good but tacking on extra chores like doing renown again is stupid. Seasons are going to need to offer something a lot less retention metrics based.
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Kind of the whole point of having seasons is resetting the power curve so you can enjoy building up a character again. Letting you bring your P100 Barb of Ownage along doesn't make any sense for the purposes of ladder resets.
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Ehud posted:
Their goal is hopefully getting people to try each new season over having them be logged in 90 hours a week.
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Destiny carries everything over season to season (since they’re more narrative/story focused with whatever new seasonal activities and content they also add) and have straight up moved away from raising power / grinding for better light gear. I think there’s some middle ground to be had between D3’s rebirth / new start in adventure mode and nothing resetting and just doing more new story poo poo.
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Being able to start a season with your standard character isn't going to happen, but I'd be shocked if they don't allow renown to carry over. Or some ideas I've seen are to give renown for each world event, helltide chest, NM dungeon etc run so that you're not forced to do side quests or altars over and over. Alternatively this might be one of those things they were planning to bake into the battle pass. Not wanting to redo the renown grind is one of those things I've seen most players actually agree about.
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Also brings to question how would resetting / redoing renown would work with Skill / Paragon points since there’s what, 10 skill points and 20 Paragon points tied to it? Would each season just give us 20 addition paragon points and we can slowly inflate / fill the whole thing as the years go by? New paragon boards would be cool.
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The t3 seasons were usually pretty good. I am not too worried.
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exquisite tea posted:Kind of the whole point of having seasons is resetting the power curve so you can enjoy building up a character again. Letting you bring your P100 Barb of Ownage along doesn't make any sense for the purposes of ladder resets. yeah, it's just that there is SO much side stuff in this game and directly contributes to the power curve and is the side stuff fun enough that people want to do it again? I think so, but I'm not sure if it's because I'm just a hardcore diablo fan. euphronius posted:Their goal is hopefully getting people to try each new season over having them be logged in 90 hours a week. I think there is some middle ground where maybe renown and altars carry over season to season, and that gives you a nice power boost early on and makes that leveling process feel even better, but you're still starting at 1 with no gear so you get the feeling of a fresh start.
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I think Blizzard would be insane to force everyone to redo renown each season because it's the first system (other than stashing cool finds) that directly makes successive characters start from a better start instead of zero. Continuous meta progression is a nice little draw, and would slot nicely into adding more bonuses over time via new land expansions.
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I think most people are in agreement that they want altars and renown rewards to carry over from season to season, with everything else on a fresh start. Maybe there can be an option for the super hardcore to disable altar bonuses if they care about preserving the integrity of the early game.
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Ehud posted:I've been talking to non-ARPG friends (who have gotten very into D4) about this topic. My broken ARPG brain is fully prepared to do everything over again each season. Meanwhile, they're all saying they will never play seasonal if it means having to re-do renown, altars, etc. yeah there's so much incentive to maximize seasonal time invested because there's a fairly direct relation to time played and total in-game transactions. I feel that discrepancy, too, between expecting it to get the standard full reset treatment because golly that's what arpgs all do for some reason, but also that is a lot of grindy almost busy work for a game that clearly wants to be more friendly to, you know, people playing for fun. I am curious what they'll do. Letting some progress carry over would be a huge crowd pleaser, but also that's just leaving money on the table. The compromise is probably to lower barriers to alts/rerolls but fully reset the account meta-progression.
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Preserving the integrity of the early game might as well include doing the campaign again. D3's seasons would have crashed and burned if we were required to replay the campaign every time.
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Did they nerf the whispers boxes? Last week every time I got one there were three choices, and one of them was highlighted orange, which I basically took to mean "has better quality poo poo even if it isn't necessarily the part you're looking for." Did a bunch last night and that seems to be gone. or is this just RNGesus.txt? Cyrano4747 fucked around with this message at 13:50 on Jun 15, 2023 |
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Star Man posted:Preserving the integrity of the early game might as well include doing the campaign again. D3's seasons would have crashed and burned if we were required to replay the campaign every time. This being Diablo 4 I'm expecting Blizzard to nearly replicate D3 seasons, but in an unnecessarily complicated and slightly worse way.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Did they nerf the whispers boxes? Last week every time I got one there were three choices, and one of them was highlighted orange, which I basically took to mean "has better quality poo poo even if it isn't necessarily the part you're looking for." Did a bunch last night and that seems to be gone. The latter. Sometimes you get an orange one sometimes you don't.
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Cyrano4747 posted:Did they nerf the whispers boxes? Last week every time I got one there were three choices, and one of them was highlighted orange, which I basically took to mean "has better quality poo poo even if it isn't necessarily the part you're looking for." Did a bunch last night and that seems to be gone. Nope. Just RNGesus. Getting a gold box from whispers isn't guaranteed. It seems to be about a 25-33% chance.
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