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Tarkus posted:I do the same thing in many circumstances at work. I ask it technical questions and it generally gives a good response. One thing you have to remember is that it is flawed, like asking a person, so it's best to treat it like you're asking a really smart and knowledgeable person that gets things mixed up a bit sometimes. Trust but verify. If you use BingBot instead of ChatGPT it cites its sources and then you just treat it as a Wikipedia page and follow the cites.
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zedprime posted:Caveat, middle managers and executives have several job duties that only value sounding right over being right. Large language models are exceedingly good at sounding right if you haven't already learned to filter out falsely confident prose. Looking forward to middle-management Skynet threatening to terminate me for not touching the computer every five seconds.
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Tetrabor posted:Looking forward to middle-management Skynet threatening to terminate me for not touching the computer every five seconds. The Amazon experience
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Dameius posted:If you use BingBot instead of ChatGPT it cites its sources and then you just treat it as a Wikipedia page and follow the cites. Google's Bard also cites sources but still makes poo poo up from them! Bard really is the worst MML
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It's a bit of a half-arsed effort, and it's a google side project so it could randomly disappear at any moment.
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Tetrabor posted:Looking forward to middle-management Skynet threatening to terminate me for not touching the computer every five seconds. Hey, at least you might get a robot horse out of it
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pixaal posted:Google's Bard also cites sources but still makes poo poo up from them! Bard really is the worst MML Which is why, like Wikipedia, you just follow the sources and cite them instead.
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History Comes Inside! posted:lol absofuckinglutely not Nah, if you're willing to google it then you're just as well off putting it through GPT. Would I trust it to give me novel solutions to things unknown? No, but as a search device for technical information that's buried under crap, it's pretty cool.
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Dameius posted:Which is why, like Wikipedia, you just follow the sources and cite them instead. Hmm, probably just a pipe dream.
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Right after I quit my job at a WI hospital, they went through a massive shedding of employees by skirting past a law against lowering employees' salaries by switching to a new company name and then making everyone reapply for their jobs at a lower pay. "It's a new company so this is your pay now" was such an rear end in a top hat move. I was never happier to escape a company. It was Ministry Health Care because of course a christian company is going to gently caress the loving gently caress out of anyone possible.
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Catastrophe posted:Right after I quit my job at a WI hospital, they went through a massive shedding of employees by skirting past a law against lowering employees' salaries by switching to a new company name and then making everyone reapply for their jobs at a lower pay. "It's a new company so this is your pay now" was such an rear end in a top hat move. I was never happier to escape a company. oh is that what the story is with Ascension?
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Whats the go on that fentanyl taffy? I'll give you $50, but you must risk trafficking charges and get it across international borders. tia
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Tarkus posted:Nah, if you're willing to google it then you're just as well off putting it through GPT. Would I trust it to give me novel solutions to things unknown? No, but as a search device for technical information that's buried under crap, it's pretty cool. Trust the chat bot to get it right or myself evaluating search results. Always going to just Google it myself.
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zedprime posted:What if there was just some website where you could pose a question and it could give you a list of websites related to it for you to continue your research? Yeah, using a search engine is great when you can focus your question enough to cut out a bunch of SEO/AI (ironic) garbage, but if you need to workshop your question to figure out what it is you should be searching for in the first place, it can be useful. Notably, I'm not saying search is dead nor am I saying AI search is infallible and should always be trusted.
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A large swathe of our call center people are being converted to contractors because... Well no one's actually given a reason, not even a mealy-mouthed weasel word reason. No one really knows what's happening. They're getting told by this new company that they're not allowed back into our building, but to keep their badges? They're supposed to get thin clients that the contract Co will support but also their laptops that are ours were just... Given to this new company? No one even knows how much support we're supposed to give. The most infuriating part is the 30 year old chud on our team trying to find those answers for the leadership that should have had those answers BEFORE all this, and him calling one of the managers on a team not yet converted (who had no idea this is happening) and telling her because "I know you won't panic and cause drama about it". gently caress you, dude, pull ALL the pins on the drama grenades. Glad my resume is up to date...
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Whose child runs the contractor company and wants to be known as a genius business person who started with "nothing"?
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Apparently they've been around since the 70s so I dunno if it's a nep decision or any of the other "Got an MBA and celebrated by taking a nap in a hot car" decisions this leadership makes, like the dude who thought we should issue Oculuses to everyone and hold all meetings in the metaverse
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Tarkus posted:Nah, if you're willing to google it then you're just as well off putting it through GPT. Uhhhhhhhhhh no
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its literally giving you word salad that it has absolutely no understanding or recognition of shaped by applying different weights to search results and following a few basic rules of grammar when it mashes them together but lol sure yeah that’s almost as useful as text from an actual human who at least had a passing understanding of what they were writing
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I asked bing to help me transport some cupcakes and my car and that the front seat back seat and truck were full. It all went pretty standard AI conversation and as expected but I have a better intuitive understanding of these than most people seem to. Fancy loving auto complete from your cellphone just with 300w of power instead of 5w. Yes I know your phone has more but no way is that function using more than like 5w. An MML will run a 300w card all out no problem. It asked if there was any other part of the car I could put the cupcakes. I said there's some room in the engine compartment. It told me I can fit almost 4,000 standard cupcakes in a standard engine compartment then was confident I could still transport the cupcakes with the car. After saying I was having trouble putting that many cupcakes in there with the engine and complained of burns it told me I had to remove the engine. When asked how to transport it without an engine I was told a tow truck was also required! Now why am I not just putting the cupcakes in the tow truck?
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History Comes Inside! posted:its literally giving you word salad that it has absolutely no understanding or recognition of shaped by applying different weights to search results and following a few basic rules of grammar when it mashes them together but lol sure yeah that’s almost as useful as text from an actual human who at least had a passing understanding of what they were writing There's an even better issue when it comes to using an LLM for writing code. It's trained on basically "the Internet", so that's what it's basing it's guesses on. Now what do you think there's more of, code posted for "help me fix this bug" or "help me with my homework", or code posted as an answer or to show off a useful technique? Code that doesn't work right is going to weigh very heavily in the model. Specialist tools like Git CoPilot should address this, but I haven't checked yet to see how they handle it.
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mllaneza posted:There's an even better issue when it comes to using an LLM for writing code. It's trained on basically "the Internet", so that's what it's basing it's guesses on. Now what do you think there's more of, code posted for "help me fix this bug" or "help me with my homework", or code posted as an answer or to show off a useful technique? Code that doesn't work right is going to weigh very heavily in the model. If you want to write Ansible, then Lightspeed will be the answer to that. Red Hat says it is due out for general access end of June, but also they haven't given a specific date yet.
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mllaneza posted:There's an even better issue when it comes to using an LLM for writing code. It's trained on basically "the Internet", so that's what it's basing it's guesses on. Now what do you think there's more of, code posted for "help me fix this bug" or "help me with my homework", or code posted as an answer or to show off a useful technique? Code that doesn't work right is going to weigh very heavily in the model. Don't forget that chatGPT likes to use the same made up #includes which wasn't a big deal since they didn't exist. But bad actors have made them so now if you go and grab them you just infected yourself with malware! Have fun.
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History Comes Inside! posted:its literally giving you word salad that it has absolutely no understanding or recognition of shaped by applying different weights to search results and following a few basic rules of grammar when it mashes them together but lol sure yeah that’s almost as useful as text from an actual human who at least had a passing understanding of what they were writing The assertion that the output from, say, GPT4 is just word salad nonsense is just simply not true. When I was playing with GPT2 and 3 I thought the same thing but with the latest version it has turned out to be an extremely useful tool. I have done the following things with it: - Figure out why a certain sensor isn't giving back data correctly. I gives me some steps to go through and the first one was correct. - Give it code snippets that's giving me trouble for one reason or another and 9 times out of 10 it'll give me the correct reason as to why it doesn't work or how I hosed up. - Give it a manufacturing problem and ask how to solve it. It usually gives me answers I already know but it has given me a couple that I hadn't tried and did actually work. - Get some basic boilerplate code while giving it parameters on what I'm doing. Saves time especially when I'm not particularly well versed in a particular library or language. - When googling something doesn't return anything exactly like the problem I'm having, I can ask the AI and it'll point me in the right direction or give me terms that are more appropriate. - Feed it a pdf and ask questions about certain topics to help me understand the material or have it explain a concept to me. I mean, sure, it's not thinking in any meaningful way but I treat it as though it's a really smart but flawed human that has access to data beyond our imaginations. I'm always critical of the answers it gives in much the same way that I don't entirely trust the answers I get from people. I don't think that people have to be AI evangelists or anything but I think people may be robbing themselves of the use a of a really powerful tool by being so vehemently against it.
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Tarkus posted:The assertion that the output from, say, GPT4 is just word salad nonsense is just simply not true. When I was playing with GPT2 and 3 I thought the same thing but with the latest version it has turned out to be an extremely useful tool. I have done the following things with it:
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zedprime posted:Are you ok with OpenAI and/or Microsoft reading your transcripts, geolocating your facility, and knowing your facility is having issues related to a specific sensor, codebase, or operations events? Because if I was your boss I wouldn't be without some very specific agreements in place. I am the boss and I'm fine with it.
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My bosses have such a fuckin hard on for AI at the minute they wouldn't give a poo poo if it was scraping cred card details
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Tarkus posted:The assertion that the output from, say, GPT4 is just word salad nonsense is just simply not true. When I was playing with GPT2 and 3 I thought the same thing but with the latest version it has turned out to be an extremely useful tool. I have done the following things with it: You sound like a blockchain enthusiast.
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Biplane posted:You sound like a blockchain enthusiast. Blockchains do nothing and OP is very much describing it doing things, even if you don't think it does those things very well, so no they really don't, at all
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I wrote my entire work annual review using chatGPT and got a "good work" so it fooled the HR drones at least
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Sywert of Thieves posted:I'm amazed by at least one of my co-workers just using ChatGPT instead of Google now. Heard a new term? Ask the AI. Best method for cleaning up some process? Ask AI. I mean, sure you can have it write joke poems about celebrity x in the style of artist y, but actually using a professionally lying algorithm for facts? gently caress that History Comes Inside! posted:lol absofuckinglutely not Yeah this. I don't write any code myself but I gently caress around with like pi/atmega/whatever small electronics stuff amateurishly but even the most basic poo poo I tried asking it when I needed hlpe with something wasn't any better than what I'd see if I just typed it into the regular search bar, and was definitely no substitute for just searching for the answers myself. I don't think I ever bounced so hard off of a way to search for information than I did with that. And if the idea is that you should "trust but verify" with it then it's beyond pointless if you have to personally check what it gives you against those other methods of looking stuff up online anyway.
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Leadership is mostly freaked out by AI thanks to the new CSO (chief security officer) saying it’s bad, so we have more warnings about not using AI chatbots when connected through the firewall and less talking about blockchain transforming our business.
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JUST MAKING CHILI posted:Leadership is mostly freaked out by AI thanks to the new CSO (chief security officer) saying it’s bad, so we have more warnings about not using AI chatbots when connected through the firewall and less talking about blockchain transforming our business. How backwards. At my job, they are letting us gently caress the AI
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reignonyourparade posted:Blockchains do nothing and OP is very much describing it doing things, even if you don't think it does those things very well, so no they really don't, at all They do, though
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Biplane posted:They do, though They don't though
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Tarkus posted:The assertion that the output from, say, GPT4 is just word salad nonsense is just simply not true. When I was playing with GPT2 and 3 I thought the same thing but with the latest version it has turned out to be an extremely useful tool. I have done the following things with it: It’s literally just googling all that poo poo and parroting back what it finds
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20 Blunts posted:oh is that what the story is with Ascension? Yay! Someone else is noticing besides me! Advent is doing the same thing.
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