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Ian is laughing because he's very excited about getting BoJo back to his roots, to where he first built his persona and launched his rise in politics, Have I Got News For You Never let Hislop forget that.
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Jun 15, 2023 18:49
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Tesseraction posted:Did you walk in on your first day to find it was actually GB News? It's turned out that I'm basically at work about 10.5 hours and when expenses are taken into account I'll be getting about 5.5 hours pay minimum wage. And unlike my old job if I get things done I just get given more to do, fixing the fuckups of the moron in charge who seems to be a combination of incompetent, disorganized, certain he knows how to do everything, and simultaneously wasteful and tightfisted with resources. I've already come up with a new way to do something they're struggling with but it only works on one of their ancient computers so everyone else is just getting told to try and make it work, despite the cost of a working computer probably being less than the amount of wasted hours of wages each week. And obviously I don't benefit at all from this improvement because I'm not making my job easier because I'm there regardless. Which I know is how most jobs work but I basically have no moment to think between getting up at 7 and getting home at about 6:15. And even if I do nothing while I'm at work it's just... I'm sitting there doing nothing. My life is draining out of me by the second for no purpose. My old job didn't have enough hours but between being unsupervised and being just jobs assigned to me by a computer that I do and then they're done, and then I can bill them however long they thought it was supposed to take, it just seems like a massive downgrade. I will technically be getting slightly more money at the end of the month, but I will be working probably three or four times as much and also I hate it.
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Jun 15, 2023 18:50
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Are you able to pretend you're less productive than you are so you can dick around on your phone in the meantime?
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Jun 15, 2023 18:57
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Possibly but I am considering being stuck in an office playing with my phone as "work" because it is not what I would voluntarily be doing. Also to be honest I've tried doing that and my brain goes to pease pudding faster than if I actually do work. I've never worked somewhere that wasn't "get the job done and then go home, faster you do the job faster you can leave" and I apparently don't know how to function unless I am 100% applied to the task of either work or not working, and the latter basically requires me to be in my underpants.
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Jun 15, 2023 18:58
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At one of my old jobs I had a python script do my work for me and just posted on SA / watched youtube all day.
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Jun 15, 2023 19:00
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Angepain posted:Did anyone else ever confirm the existence of boris' cardboard buses or was it just to get his bus scandal off of google Journalists now only allowed to leave their desks to take pictures of Johnson running.
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Jun 15, 2023 19:08
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OwlFancier posted:It's turned out that I'm basically at work about 10.5 hours and when expenses are taken into account I'll be getting about 5.5 hours pay minimum wage. And unlike my old job if I get things done I just get given more to do, fixing the fuckups of the moron in charge who seems to be a combination of incompetent, disorganized, certain he knows how to do everything, and simultaneously wasteful and tightfisted with resources. I've already come up with a new way to do something they're struggling with but it only works on one of their ancient computers so everyone else is just getting told to try and make it work, despite the cost of a working computer probably being less than the amount of wasted hours of wages each week. And obviously I don't benefit at all from this improvement because I'm not making my job easier because I'm there regardless. Look for another job. Don't know precisely what you do but I know what it's like to be in a job that you hate almost from almost day 1. Total misery. I have quit jobs twice with nothing lined up and in my younger days very little by way of financial reserves. But the immense relief after a couple of days of numbness once I had left were so worth it, like heavy black clouds lifting from my shoulders. Spend a bit of time assessing your resources - finances, support network (not necessarily financial, absolute minimum you need to survive, type of jobs available within your realistic travelling time, other things you could do to make few £bobs on the side - don't know if you're any good at 'handyman' stuff but I know round here getting any handy people to actually turn up to do small jobs is incredibly difficult (as is getting more skilled trades to come out and quote let alone do the jobs!), how good you are at techy stuff - plenty of people need help with really basic stuff. You probably hate FB but our local groups are always asking 'does anyone know someone who could come out and fix this, move that, whatever'.
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Jun 15, 2023 19:14
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Well, give it a few weeks - things might improve - but no reason to stay in a job that you hate: the jobs market is very positive right now due to all the labour shortages, bound to be something better elsewhere.
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Jun 15, 2023 19:28
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I have a feeling my objection is largely capitalism.txt unfortunately. I will see if it changes if/when I am actually doing what I was hired to do rather than fixing everyone else's fuckups. Then probably just ask for my old job back.
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Jun 15, 2023 19:30
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Look for another job. Don't know precisely what you do but I know what it's like to be in a job that you hate almost from almost day 1. Total misery. This, a thousand times over. 
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Jun 15, 2023 19:32
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I know one thing for absolute certain, that I do not understand how office workers survive. I always thought I'd never be in one and hopefully I won't be for long but my loving god it's like one of the hosed up circles of hell.
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Jun 15, 2023 19:36
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OwlFancier posted:I know one thing for absolute certain, that I do not understand how office workers survive. I always thought I'd never be in one and hopefully I won't be for long but my loving god it's like one of the hosed up circles of hell. Eh, it's not working down the mines, it's actually a pretty trivially easy way of surviving in life. That being said, I haven't gone in for over a month and at this point I'm just hoping it never gets mentioned
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Jun 15, 2023 19:39
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It can depend on the office, especially the colleagues / command structure. If your boss is poo poo there's nothing that can rescue that.
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Jun 15, 2023 19:40
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My first office job, there was a guy who would wash his cup in the sink in the toilets. The toilets were next door to the staff room/kitchen area.
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Jun 15, 2023 19:44
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And I suppose how colourful and fun your spreadsheet can be made
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Jun 15, 2023 19:44
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Failed Imagineer posted:Eh, it's not working down the mines, it's actually a pretty trivially easy way of surviving in life. Also as Ligotti said in My Work Is Not Yet Done there's occult horrors lurking just below the surface and they make you attend meetings and team calls.
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Jun 15, 2023 19:48
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Ignoring what the job actually is and whether you enjoy the work, office can be fine. When I last worked in an office I sat with people I liked and enjoyed talking with, I could have headphones on to block out noise, there were good food options nearby, and it was a 7-minute drive from home. Now whilst my company does have an office, the last time I went there was December 2022 and the time before that was November 2021. The guy I sit next to now doesn't seem to take baths very often and his breath loving stinks. 
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Jun 15, 2023 19:48
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^^^ If he's anything like my coworker, tell him to stop noisily slurping at his bollocks all day or he's gonna get put on a Personal Improvement ProgramGuavanaut posted:Like Graeber said in Bullshit Jobs, there was a level of purpose and camaraderie in those unionised industrial jobs that made them more mentally healthy than the Hobbesian world of the office, even if they could be a lot less physically healthy if a big hammer fell on you. Yeah I like Graeber a lot but I don't really buy that thesis at all. First you'd have to convince me that there was genuinely more cameraderie in the average mine than the average office. And even so, I think if I had to choose between dying at 45 due to black lung or... increasingly identifying with J Alfred Prufrock every day, then I'm always gonna pick that sweet siren song and measure out my life in coffee spoons
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Jun 15, 2023 20:01
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I would argue there was a stronger camraderie back when you all knew your boss was a monster paying you gently caress all and making you work horrible hours together. I'm not saying office work is easy (some of it is very much not so) but there are safeguards in place to keep white collar workers reasonably less ground down. Being repealed constantly by the tories mind you....
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Jun 15, 2023 20:03
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Failed Imagineer posted:^^^ If he's anything like my coworker, tell him to stop noisily slurping at his bollocks all day or he's gonna get put on a Personal Improvement Program Pup improvement plan
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Jun 15, 2023 20:06
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Rule number 1 for trying to survive a new office job is resisting the constant impulse to try and change any of the processes for the first three months. Instead bask in the inefficiency and let it wash over you. Then quietly change things without telling anybody - that way you don't get assigned more work.
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Jun 15, 2023 20:11
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blunt posted:Rule number 1 for trying to survive a new office job is resisting the constant impulse to try and change any of the processes for the first three months. Instead bask in the inefficiency and let it wash over you. Then quietly change things without telling anybody - that way you don't get assigned more work. This is the way. Having worked in bars and other public facing jobs that tend to attract more ‘fun’ people, it was a shock to the system to enter the world of boring sensible people who don’t like drugs or talking about which MP is most punchable. They’re out there, the normal people. You might not meet a lot of them but they’re everywhere and they’re going to tell you about last night’s Strictly whether you give a poo poo or not. E: side note, but don’t suppose anyone’s heard from Borrovan lately? We chatted a bit a few years back but he’s gone dark in the last year or so. He had a kid so that’s almost certainly why but thought I’d ask, he’s a good egg.
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Jun 15, 2023 20:16
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There's also an element of wandering in without understanding whatever is really going on and telling everyone how to do their jobs after 5 mins. People tend to maybe not respond that well.
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Jun 15, 2023 20:17
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blunt posted:Rule number 1 for trying to survive a new office job is resisting the constant impulse to try and change any of the processes for the first three months. Instead bask in the inefficiency and let it wash over you. Then quietly change things without telling anybody - that way you don't get assigned more work. i wish someone told me this before i started the job i left at the start of this year (the last 3 months of which I was signed off sick) but my NHS trust not having its HR/recruitment departments implode several years ago thus roping me into doing their work for them would also have been nice thankfully i am now back as a single admin for a specialist therapeutic service and it's so good to actually be doing work i understand again NotJustANumber99 posted:There's also an element of wandering in without understanding whatever is really going on and telling everyone how to do their jobs after 5 mins. People tend to maybe not respond that well. this is true but sometimes the improvement is literally "why are you copy and pasting the same data into 3 different spreadsheets and calculating things manually"
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NotJustANumber99 posted:There's also an element of wandering in without understanding whatever is really going on and telling everyone how to do their jobs after 5 mins. People tend to maybe not respond that well. this. one million percent this. Nuclear Spoon posted:this is true but sometimes the improvement is literally "why are you copy and pasting the same data into 3 different spreadsheets and calculating things manually" because if they automate it they might be given other - worse - work to do.
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Jun 15, 2023 20:21
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That's why you automate it and then stare furiously at a screen with top running in Linux with a youtube video that you're actually watching in the corner people can't quite see
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Jun 15, 2023 20:26
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Pffft why not just have the youtube full screen and take your laptop to the beanbag room? That's what i do at my office
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Jun 15, 2023 20:30
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Take your laptop down the slide and hide in the ball pit.
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Jun 15, 2023 20:31
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I remember one of the times I was caught out was because I started crying with laughter at this https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yhKZCy41g5w
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Jun 15, 2023 20:34
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lol that's a good'n
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that poor old dear did not have a good day
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I left one of those “90% sat with my thumb up my rear end 10% white knuckle all hands on deck to deal with the big lovely fan action” jobs last year for a big payrise and it turned out that not only was the new company awful and expected me to treat the people I was managing like poo poo, but also that I really hate having to do work more than 10% of the time even for significantly more money than I was getting before. Luckily my old job wanted me back so I went back for slightly more money than I’d left on, and then a few months after I left the new company lost the contract for the job I’d been hired to oversee (because they were a bunch of horrible cunts) and it turned out I’d dodged a bullet. The lesson is find a job doing as close to gently caress all as you can for as much money as you can get and then never upset the apple cart.
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Techie folks who know about internets: My 4G internet & BTWiFi have been playing up every afternoon for a few days and also last week for a few days. I haven't moved ANYTHING. The router has been in the same place for 3.5 years and no new tall buildings have materialized since a fortnight ago! Just went on to our local FB group and loads of people are complaining about bad internet (all services, broadband etc including both 4G & fibre). Someone's posted a screenshot saying OpenReach are working on a problem about 2 miles away. Just wondering how an OpenReach fibre problem could be impacting 4G services too? Or it is a wild coincidence?
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Jun 15, 2023 20:50
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Best thing about the shift to WFH is being able to turn avs back on. Hard to browse the forums at work with them on lol.
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Jun 15, 2023 20:53
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If there's a problem with backhaul to the exchange it might affect multiple services coming off it. For example if your 4G mast and your regular Internet arrive at the exchange from the rest of the world via the same duct, if that duct gets damaged both may suffer.
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Jun 15, 2023 20:55
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We're near London Bridge and the temp office 5g router and people's own phones have been iffy the last couple days 
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Jaeluni Asjil posted:Just wondering how an OpenReach fibre problem could be impacting 4G services too? Or it is a wild coincidence?
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History Comes Inside! posted:I left one of those “90% sat with my thumb up my rear end 10% white knuckle all hands on deck to deal with the big lovely fan action” jobs last year for a big payrise and it turned out that not only was the new company awful and expected me to treat the people I was managing like poo poo, but also that I really hate having to do work more than 10% of the time even for significantly more money than I was getting before. gently caress, i should print that out and put it on my wall
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I used to work for a wireless ISP (microwave point to point, not wifi) and on hot days there'd be engineer crews sent round the tall buildings in the city to open the cabinet doors to prevent overheating.
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