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Pf. Hikikomoriarty: Feb 15, 2003; RO YNSHO; Slippery Tilde

Norton posted:

why is every thing turning to poo poo so fast? capitalism has been around for a long time and companies could have jacked up prices like they are doing now at any point in the past 100 years. i can't imagine our ruling class ever cared about poor people so it can't be they are just more evil now.

are the rich less afraid of unrest?
are there more ways to get personally rich from short term gains?
are the rich clawing back the small amount of wealth the lower class had fought for over the last century, and any progress towards helping the lower class is just an anomaly that capitalism eventually corrects?
are countries that used to be economic slaves to the west resisting?
is the barrier of entry to start a modern business so high that no actual competition can ever form?
is technology and the internet allowing cartels and price fixing to be more powerful?
is the environment dying so fast that we are finally seeing the effect in prices?
is it the money printer goin brrr?
were old capitalist less good at capitalism?

sorry for being dumb i just can't figure out why we ever had cheap products and (relatively) affordable housing when companies could have just been reaming us this whole time.

the rate of profit is falling to zero

# ? Jun 15, 2023 19:30

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# ? Jun 3, 2024 12:02

sd6: Jan 14, 2008; This has all been posted before, and it will all be posted again

Norton posted:

why is every thing turning to poo poo so fast? capitalism has been around for a long time and companies could have jacked up prices like they are doing now at any point in the past 100 years. i can't imagine our ruling class ever cared about poor people so it can't be they are just more evil now.

are the rich less afraid of unrest?
are there more ways to get personally rich from short term gains?
are the rich clawing back the small amount of wealth the lower class had fought for over the last century, and any progress towards helping the lower class is just an anomaly that capitalism eventually corrects?
are countries that used to be economic slaves to the west resisting?
is the barrier of entry to start a modern business so high that no actual competition can ever form?
is technology and the internet allowing cartels and price fixing to be more powerful?
is the environment dying so fast that we are finally seeing the effect in prices?
is it the money printer goin brrr?
were old capitalist less good at capitalism?

sorry for being dumb i just can't figure out why we ever had cheap products and (relatively) affordable housing when companies could have just been reaming us this whole time.

Part of it is that over this period of time, corps consolidated and got bigger. Being bigger means they have more money to bribe the government with, and their customers also have fewer choices. This allows them to squeeze people harder than in the past

# ? Jun 15, 2023 19:31

sullat: Jan 9, 2012

Monkey Fracas posted:

What are they planning to use this for? Wonder if anything specific set it off

To keep Austin from passing a law allowing gender affirming care or whatever

# ? Jun 15, 2023 19:33

silicone thrills: Jan 9, 2008; I paint things

i assumed it was to destroy local min wage and workers rights sorta stuff too.

# ? Jun 15, 2023 19:34

Lacrosse: Jun 16, 2010; >:V

Every quarter companies must double their profit from the quarter before it. Yeah sure you made $2 billion dollars last quarter but unless you make $4 billion this quarter you've failed as a business.

So that, and also hardly anyone has a union anymore and the ones that do probably can't legally strike (railroaders, bus drivers, air traffic controllers, etc)

# ? Jun 15, 2023 19:36

StratGoatCom: Aug 6, 2019; Our security is guaranteed by being able to melt the eyeballs of any other forum's denizens at 15 minutes notice

Engorged Pedipalps posted:

Digg admins unilaterally loving their site up is literally why reddit exists

More of the internet is just gonna go to discord. We've effectively looped around to pre-mosaic internet, with all the content locked behind the modern day equivalent of a bbs system

Uhhh, you did see that post about how Discord is looking iffy, right?

All I'm saying is, SA and Tumblr are the places to go.

# ? Jun 15, 2023 19:36

RealityWarCriminal: Aug 10, 2016

it's been almost 30 years but i'm glad this internet bubble is finally popping

# ? Jun 15, 2023 19:39

euphronius: Feb 18, 2009

RealityWarCriminal posted:

it's been almost 30 years but i'm glad this internet bubble is finally popping

so much has been destroyed for it lol

# ? Jun 15, 2023 19:39

The Atomic Man-Boy: Jul 23, 2007

I love how every site fucks things up by trying to become a social media site.

Discord is funny, but go on LinkedIn to look at people who post there recreationally and you see the most psychotic user base in the world.

# ? Jun 15, 2023 19:40

nexous: Jan 14, 2003; I just want to be pure

StratGoatCom posted:

Uhhh, you did see that post about how Discord is looking iffy, right?

All I'm saying is, SA and Tumblr are the places to go.

didnt SA and tumblr both ban porn. no way theyre getting mass adoption

# ? Jun 15, 2023 19:53

euphronius: Feb 18, 2009

porn is back on tumblr

# ? Jun 15, 2023 19:56

the bitcoin of weed: Nov 1, 2014

Norton posted:

why is every thing turning to poo poo so fast? capitalism has been around for a long time and companies could have jacked up prices like they are doing now at any point in the past 100 years. i can't imagine our ruling class ever cared about poor people so it can't be they are just more evil now.

are the rich less afraid of unrest?
are there more ways to get personally rich from short term gains?
are the rich clawing back the small amount of wealth the lower class had fought for over the last century, and any progress towards helping the lower class is just an anomaly that capitalism eventually corrects?
are countries that used to be economic slaves to the west resisting?
is the barrier of entry to start a modern business so high that no actual competition can ever form?
is technology and the internet allowing cartels and price fixing to be more powerful?
is the environment dying so fast that we are finally seeing the effect in prices?
is it the money printer goin brrr?
were old capitalist less good at capitalism?

sorry for being dumb i just can't figure out why we ever had cheap products and (relatively) affordable housing when companies could have just been reaming us this whole time.

short answer

anime was right posted:

doomsday economics

https://i.imgur.com/BtgZ6Ce.mp4 (sound on)

longer answer this level of gouging wasn't necessary because corporations had other avenues to increase profits. after 200 years of doing all of that, expanding markets and the process of capitalist enclosure globally, outsourcing industrial labor to cheaper nations, financializing as much of the economy as possible to obscure productive labor behind a bunch of computer algorithms and derivative calculations, there's nowhere else to go. no new land to colonize, no uncontacted people worth exploiting, no new miracle technologies to save us, so the growth algorithm directs its hunger inwards

# ? Jun 15, 2023 19:57

Kibbles n Shits: Apr 8, 2006; burgerpug.png; Fun Shoe

SKULL.GIF posted:

https://twitter.com/KPIXtv/status/1669116890130821122

Tesla, firetruck, moth, flame

# ? Jun 15, 2023 19:57

PostNouveau: Sep 3, 2011; VY till I die; Grimey Drawer

SKULL.GIF posted:

https://twitter.com/KPIXtv/status/1669116890130821122

lol the community notes on this is some "Redditors trying to solve the Boston bombing" poo poo to try and clear the Tesla

Edit: Looks like it doesn't generate on the tweet every time

# ? Jun 15, 2023 19:58

Turtle Sandbox: Dec 31, 2007; by Fluffdaddy

Pf. Hikikomoriarty posted:

the rate of profit is falling to zero

drat, has anyone ever realized this would or could happen??

# ? Jun 15, 2023 19:59

Akratic Method: Mar 9, 2013; It's going to pay off eventually--I'm sure of it.

Any day now.

Chad Sexington posted:

I'm kind of assuming Reddit has started pumping their user numbers Facebook style because I've been pretty frequent notifications that people are following me on there and... why would a human do that.

Spam problem. Usually if you click to the profile of your new follower, it'll have a link to some scam site or an OnlyFans or whatever.

# ? Jun 15, 2023 20:00

Poco: Jul 17, 2005; ....I am a Tariff Man

PostNouveau posted:

lol the community notes on this is some "Redditors trying to solve the Boston bombing" poo poo to try and clear the Tesla

Edit: Looks like it doesn't generate on the tweet every time

That's pretty severe rear end damage, whatever hit that in the back would still be there

# ? Jun 15, 2023 20:01

Willa Rogers: Mar 11, 2005

RadiRoot posted:

you would love me then. my dryer sheets make me smell like the ocean breeze.

o hell no... I bought a wet/dry swiffer sweep or w/e & the "fresh smell"/"ocean breeze" wet cloths it came with stank up my floor so bad I had to go over it again with vinegar & water.

($avings tip if anyone has one of those swiffers): Dollar Tree had the faux-swiffer dry pads 15/$1.25 so I bought about 50 & made my own solutions for floor & tile wet-mopping)

# ? Jun 15, 2023 20:04

Morbus: May 18, 2004

euphronius posted:

fed does not care about prices

only wages

im shrinkflationing my labor by posting and taking 40 minute shits

# ? Jun 15, 2023 20:05

sullat: Jan 9, 2012

Morbus posted:

im shrinkflationing my labor by posting and taking 40 minute shits

You might want to see Dr. Euphronius about that

# ? Jun 15, 2023 20:11

Willa Rogers: Mar 11, 2005

sd6 posted:

Part of it is that over this period of time, corps consolidated and got bigger. Being bigger means they have more money to bribe the government with, and their customers also have fewer choices. This allows them to squeeze people harder than in the past

My theory is that when we went thru the initial shutdowns/scarcity of the pandemic then corps. found out we'd pay anything if it meant availability, and they got addicted to their profits, so why change anything?

Frosted Flake posted:

Didn't that paper by the cyber warfare people at Eglin AFB (Reddits #1 most addicted city!) touch on the benefits of one social network because people will increasingly rely on it?

Yeah, and also the secret tribunals that were formed to determine which speech "undermined" people's faith in our wonderful government & systems had a reach into reddit as well as every other social medium.

# ? Jun 15, 2023 20:13

Actuary X: Jul 20, 2007; Not really the best actuary in the world.

The shrinkflation thing has happened before. After some time, the same products will come out in a new, larger size so they can say they are giving you 20% more (and mark up the price). You end up back where you started, just paying more. Cycle will repeat when the economy is in that phase.

# ? Jun 15, 2023 20:13

StratGoatCom: Aug 6, 2019; Our security is guaranteed by being able to melt the eyeballs of any other forum's denizens at 15 minutes notice

the bitcoin of weed posted:

short answer

longer answer this level of gouging wasn't necessary because corporations had other avenues to increase profits. after 200 years of doing all of that, expanding markets and the process of capitalist enclosure globally, outsourcing industrial labor to cheaper nations, financializing as much of the economy as possible to obscure productive labor behind a bunch of computer algorithms and derivative calculations, there's nowhere else to go. no new land to colonize, no uncontacted people worth exploiting, no new miracle technologies to save us, so the growth algorithm directs its hunger inwards

And we vanished inward and didn't pursue the nuclear powered expansion away from terra that would have let it grow longer, because the lead time and startup costs were too high and now they're trying to half-rear end space decades late lmao.

# ? Jun 15, 2023 20:14

Animal-Mother: Feb 14, 2012; RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT

Taima posted:

The libs will also do nothing about this because they're already making GBS threads their pants

A just general truism.

# ? Jun 15, 2023 20:25

RadiRoot: Feb 3, 2007

PostNouveau posted:

lol the community notes on this is some "Redditors trying to solve the Boston bombing" poo poo to try and clear the Tesla

Edit: Looks like it doesn't generate on the tweet every time

RadiRoot has issued a correction as of 20:33 on Jun 15, 2023

# ? Jun 15, 2023 20:29

OhFunny: Jun 26, 2013; EXTREMELY PISSED AT THE DNC

It's strange to me how entrenched these sites become. It used to be really easy to make a forum and have people move over.

I remember when the old LucasArts website closed its forum. The role-play community made their own forum and moved over. The guy who made it had some meltdown, so a member made a different forum, and most people moved to that one.

That one got really popular, so a new forum with more and better features got made and peopled move to that. It's still going eighteen years later. Although it seems a lot of discussions have moved onto Discord.

I suppose a community of just over one hundred at its height is a lot easier to shepard and afford bandwidth costs for.

# ? Jun 15, 2023 20:30

Chad Sexington: May 26, 2005; I think he made a beautiful post and did a great job and he is good.

StratGoatCom posted:

And we vanished inward and didn't pursue the nuclear powered expansion away from terra that would have let it grow longer, because the lead time and startup costs were too high and now they're trying to half-rear end space decades late lmao.

space isn't profitable nerd

# ? Jun 15, 2023 20:31

Norton: Feb 18, 2006

Gorson posted:

My short answer for this is even they underestimated how much we'd take before we do anything about it.

Gwyneth Palpate posted:

Computers/the Internet made communication and comparison easier. Plus, like anything else, evil is an iterative process. Even the most depraved C-level wraith is bound by their personal ability to imagine cruelty.
I'd also wager that a lot of the stuff we're seeing isn't actually all that new. The intertubes also let us observe the iterative process of evil from far, far more angles.

Pf. Hikikomoriarty posted:

the rate of profit is falling to zero

sd6 posted:

Part of it is that over this period of time, corps consolidated and got bigger. Being bigger means they have more money to bribe the government with, and their customers also have fewer choices. This allows them to squeeze people harder than in the past

the bitcoin of weed posted:

longer answer this level of gouging wasn't necessary because corporations had other avenues to increase profits. after 200 years of doing all of that, expanding markets and the process of capitalist enclosure globally, outsourcing industrial labor to cheaper nations, financializing as much of the economy as possible to obscure productive labor behind a bunch of computer algorithms and derivative calculations, there's nowhere else to go. no new land to colonize, no uncontacted people worth exploiting, no new miracle technologies to save us, so the growth algorithm directs its hunger inwards

Willa Rogers posted:

My theory is that when we went thru the initial shutdowns/scarcity of the pandemic then corps. found out we'd pay anything if it meant availability, and they got addicted to their profits, so why change anything?

thanks for the replies everyone

# ? Jun 15, 2023 20:33

RealityWarCriminal: Aug 10, 2016

Pf. Hikikomoriarty posted:

the rate of profit is falling to zero

# ? Jun 15, 2023 20:41

RealityWarCriminal: Aug 10, 2016

between covid, climate change and the aging capitalist class, the party is clearly ending. might as well accumulate what you can now.

# ? Jun 15, 2023 20:42

Subvisual Haze: Nov 22, 2003; The building was on fire and it wasn't my fault.

Real economic growth stalled out in the west during the 1970s. We've had a couple false starts and financial tricks since then to maintain the appearance of growth, but it feels like the bill is rapidly coming due.

# ? Jun 15, 2023 20:57

Penisaurus Sex: Feb 3, 2009; asdfghjklpoiuyt

This is also far more normal and inline with what life in America was like throughout much of its history (and life in Europe from the mid 18th century onwards). 1945-1972 was an aberration made possible by Europe deciding to murder millions of people who lived there in two successive World Wars and the assumption of the extant colonies still in existence by the US throughout the Cold War.

The sudden change in the US is because there's no longer an alternative (USSR), the colonies have been exploited fully (Cold War), and the tendency of the rate of profit to fall means that the outer core of the empire is getting squeezed instead of just the periphery.

hopefully the real crack is when people en mass give up the illusion of home ownership.

Penisaurus Sex has issued a correction as of 21:05 on Jun 15, 2023

# ? Jun 15, 2023 20:58

Thorn Wishes Talon: Oct 18, 2014; by Fluffdaddy

Norton posted:

why is every thing turning to poo poo so fast? capitalism has been around for a long time and companies could have jacked up prices like they are doing now at any point in the past 100 years. i can't imagine our ruling class ever cared about poor people so it can't be they are just more evil now.

are the rich less afraid of unrest?
are there more ways to get personally rich from short term gains?
are the rich clawing back the small amount of wealth the lower class had fought for over the last century, and any progress towards helping the lower class is just an anomaly that capitalism eventually corrects?
are countries that used to be economic slaves to the west resisting?
is the barrier of entry to start a modern business so high that no actual competition can ever form?
is technology and the internet allowing cartels and price fixing to be more powerful?
is the environment dying so fast that we are finally seeing the effect in prices?
is it the money printer goin brrr?
were old capitalist less good at capitalism?

sorry for being dumb i just can't figure out why we ever had cheap products and (relatively) affordable housing when companies could have just been reaming us this whole time.

nothing has changed except your information diet

things always sucked. they don't suck more today than they did yesterday

(USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)

# ? Jun 15, 2023 21:03

Xaris: Jul 25, 2006; Lucky there's a family guy
Lucky there's a man who positively can do
All the things that make us
Laugh and cry

Norton posted:

why is every thing turning to poo poo so fast?

https://www.wired.com/story/tiktok-platforms-cory-doctorow/

# ? Jun 15, 2023 21:04

mycomancy: Oct 16, 2016

Morbus posted:

Tag yourself I'm "parses html with regex"

# ? Jun 15, 2023 21:09

Maed: Aug 23, 2006

Thorn Wishes Talon posted:

nothing has changed except your information diet

things always sucked. they don't suck more today than they did yesterday

go away lib

# ? Jun 15, 2023 21:11

Homeless Friend: Jul 16, 2007

cat botherer posted:

Reddit has all the power in this situation because of network effects. People will complain and be angry, and maybe a few will go to competitors for a week or two, but Reddit will win. Same deal as with twitter and ~~Truth Social Gab Mastadon~~ Blue Sky

lol that they couldn't just use the opportunity to crowdfund an alternative. its a fuken internet website just pay for another one. these people are already paying thousands for make believe awards

# ? Jun 15, 2023 21:12