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While that may be a shock this one wasn't: https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1668423984814202888
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Dawgstar posted:While that may be a shock this one wasn't: I'm shocked it wasn't cancelled and pulled mid season.
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It truly felt like one of those shows banished to a 11 pm slot on some forgotten channel. Did anyone actually watch it?
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Madkal posted:It truly felt like one of those shows banished to a 11 pm slot on some forgotten channel. Did anyone actually watch it? I tried but it was just so lifeless. I know why they wanted to attach it to the Batman franchise but it felt like a generic CW superhero show with a soupcon of "also this person is named Stephanie Brown."
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Madkal posted:It truly felt like one of those shows banished to a 11 pm slot on some forgotten channel. Did anyone actually watch it? All I remember was someone here giving it the glowing review that it wasn't abysmal, just regular bad
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Okay hear me out, how about we do a Batman show, but without Batman!
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Codependent Poster posted:Okay hear me out, how about we do a Batman show, but without Batman! 
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One of the conditions of renewal was cutting down on series regulars and we already know General Lane as one.
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muscles like this! posted:One of the conditions of renewal was cutting down on series regulars and we already know General Lane as one. So it got Supergirl'd. Although I guess that was more about moving to Vancouver and Calista Flockhart not wanting to come along for the ride.
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Are you forgetting about Pennyworth: the Story of Batman’s Butler or are you forgetting about Birds of Prey?
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I AM GRANDO posted:Are you forgetting about Pennyworth: the Story of Batman’s Butler or are you forgetting about Birds of Prey? I left out Pennyworth intentionally since its a period piece set before Bruce even exists.
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The problem with all these shows is they they have a Batman shaped hole in them. You've got all these characters who know Batman and the audience knows Batman exists in this universe and could conceivably show up at any moment. So the entire time you're like, I wish Batman was here. They should do a show set in Gotham but none of the characters are even tangentially related to Batman. That way the audience won't expect Batman, and the little cameo in the season finale where you see him in silhouette and he delivers a single line of dialogue or whatever will feel like a nice treat instead of a weak payoff. My suggestion, a home renovation show.
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That issue, to the degree it does exist, isn't anything to do with the characters being related to Bats. The setting itself primes people to expect him.
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I’ve heard that there can’t be a live action Batman show due to the screwy rights dating back to the 66 Batman show. That’s how we’ve had Batman shows with different characters as Batman, like Arrow. Is that 100% true? I dunno.
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Jun 14, 2023 16:50
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I mean Gotham's series Finale had an episode with him finally as Batman. Also the COIE event has batman
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Batman is the worst part of the Bat Family. Gotham Knights has the right idea conceptually, a world after Batman, they just chose poo poo characters instead of the ones people want to see.
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X-O posted:Batman is the worst part of the Bat Family. Gotham Knights has the right idea conceptually, a world after Batman, they just chose poo poo characters instead of the ones people want to see. This is categorically untrue, in no world am I interested in seeing Spoiler or Azrael get into a sword fight with R'as Al Ghul
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They continue to fight against what the people truly want: Wayne Family Adventures.
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Yeah I feel like you need Batman around to show why Nightwing and the Batgirls are more fun.
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Secret Invasion review embargo is lifted. Reviews are mostly positive, but somewhat mixed. Biggest complaints are that it is "too dour/dark" and that the first two episodes are slow starts that don't reveal much. Biggest praises are that it is "mature" (I'm guessing this is for people who like "dour/dark"), the cast - especially Sam Jackson and Olivia Coleman - turn in extremely good performances. The big dividing line seems to be people who like the slower pace and darker tone and people who think it is too slow and "dour" compared to other MCU TV entries. https://twitter.com/DiscussingFilm/status/1669022801318092814
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I would be perfectly pleased with the MCU intentionally incorporating more tonal breadth in these projects, because we were getting to a point where this stuff was at risk of entering self parody territory as regards its seeming aversion to let a single moment of tension or discomfort hang for more than two seconds without undercutting itself (looking at you as the most glaring example, Love & Thunder). Notable breaths of fresh air for me were No Way Home, Multiverse of Madness, and Guardians 3, which were all willing to have moments of real unpleasantness, character imperfection that felt intentional and of a piece with their arc, and occasional revels in some nasty and mean spirited fun. Green Goblin blew up Aunt May and stabbed Tobey Maguire! Scarlet Witch turned into a Deadite and blew up a man's head! Rocket ate someone's face and then that guy murdered an entire planet of sentient animal people! That poo poo ruled! For lighter toned pieces to feel like anything, I think it's important to have some grit with which to contrast them. Not everything needs to have the "feel good romp" dial cranked to eleven all the time.
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Moon Knight was also great.
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Dawgstar posted:So it got Supergirl'd. Although I guess that was more about moving to Vancouver and Calista Flockhart not wanting to come along for the ride. Yeah Callista Flockhart had a few guest appearances later on, so I doubt there was any bad blood when she left.
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bunnyofdoom posted:I mean Gotham's series Finale had an episode with him finally as Batman. He was in Titans as also Batman, though it was a dream sequence of Dick's
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You can do a Bat family show without Batman, Knights' problem was that the acting and writing looked like absolute dog poo poo, even for a CW show
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X-O posted:Batman is the worst part of the Bat Family. Gotham Knights has the right idea conceptually, a world after Batman, they just chose poo poo characters instead of the ones people want to see. A good version of Birds of Prey would be cool too. I think it's been long enough since the 90s show that the name isn't poison
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OnimaruXLR posted:This is categorically untrue, in no world am I interested in seeing Spoiler or Azrael get into a sword fight with R'as Al Ghul I am! (You did choose two of my favourite characters tho so) Air Skwirl posted:A good version of Birds of Prey would be cool too. I think it's been long enough since the 90s show that the name isn't poison I feel like the movie just completely slid out of people's memories (I never saw it though). I think you can do a good Batfamily series without Batman, I feel like the problem with the ones they keep trying is that it needs to feel natural, and these all feel like "we're not allowed to use Batman, so we're gonna do the next 'best' thing" rather than a genuine story about disparate people who have been brought together by a weird father figure who are trying to figure out what to do now that said father figure is gone.
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catlord posted:I feel like the movie just completely slid out of people's memories (I never saw it though). I thought it was decent enough, but it's really a Harley Quinn movie not a team movie, and I think most people who do remember it will remember it as that as well.
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Opopanax posted:You can do a Bat family show without Batman, Knights' problem was that the acting and writing looked like absolute dog poo poo, even for a CW show Especially Duela Dent as the 'wild' one.
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Saw the first two episodes of Secret Invasion: really good performances by all, but it feels like "my first grown-up BBC spy drama". It's an okay version of that, but it doesn't exceed what it sets out to do, like an Andor.
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Air Skwirl posted:I thought it was decent enough, but it's really a Harley Quinn movie not a team movie, and I think most people who do remember it will remember it as that as well. BoP was actually one of the better DC movies and it got completely memory holed which is a shame. The action sequences were fun and the characters were great and the actors were clearly having a blast. I will admit I found the Harley stuff a bit grating (gimme a Huntress movie instead) but it really deserves more praise than it gets.
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Rosie Perez not being the DCEU's street-level connective tissue is a drat shame.
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Madkal posted:BoP was actually one of the better DC movies and it got completely memory holed which is a shame. It had the misfortune of coming out right before the world ended.
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It was the last (major) release I saw in theaters that year.
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Arist posted:It was the last (major) release I saw in theaters that year.
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Speak for yourself, I saw Bloodshot as my last film.
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I would be all about a Mary Elizabeth Winstead socially awkward Huntress movie.
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Timby posted:It had the misfortune of coming out right before the world ended. lol. I tried to go see Birds of Prey, but the only cinema I was willing to go to is in another town (the cinema in my town was utter poo poo. It's shut down now), and my train ended up getting cancelled because someone threw themselves in front of it at the next station up. Then everything shut down the next week and I missed my chance. I was really pissed off about that, but mostly because the last film I saw in a cinema was Rise of Skywalker, and I couldn't let that be the last thing I saw, I was desperate to go see something else.
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I can't remember which I saw first, but yeah the last movie I saw before COVID was either BoP or the new Little Women.
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