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ikanreed posted:It took a long rear end time for English to displace Latin in academia, even when literally no one spoke Latin. It won't be your lifetime. English didn't have a world war with Latin
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Jun 15, 2023 18:35
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crepeface posted:i think they fixed OLED burn-in a long time ago. I'm still running a decades old plasma tho Yeah, it's possible but you basically have to deliberately gently caress up (and even then it would take months). I actually did burn in an OLED once, but it required me being extremely stupid and leaving the TV on my receiver's default screen constantly (which is bright yellow bordering pitch black, a bad combo), and still took like 6 months of that. And even after that, it's still basically fine for most live-action stuff (I gave it to my dad). You can 100% avoid any issues as long as you periodically check your screen by setting the whole thing to be white (or light grey or something - basically a color that makes it easy to see the beginning of burn-in). When it first begins to show up like that, you can fix it with the TV's screen cleaning option (though you want to minimize how often you use this). Edit: Anyways, I agree with the poster who said it's the first truly big upgrade since 1080p. IMO the only TVs worth getting are the budget 150-300 ones or an OLED. Getting some mid-high end TV that costs like $800 or something is dumb as hell, because the difference between that and a "low-end" TV is insignificant. Ytlaya has issued a correction as of 18:47 on Jun 15, 2023 |
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Jun 15, 2023 18:43
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Fitzy Fitz posted:Translating scientific writing sounds like it would be incredibly difficult. I do that for a living, although it's not my main occupation (that's simultaneous translation). It seems easy to me!  More seriously, it depends on some factors. One needs quite a wide scientific knowledge. Not deep (I don't need to do the math myself) but I have to understand the narrative of how things work, and their place in the world. I accomplish those by virtue of being a massive nerd. Then there's finding the right terms. For that, two techniques apply, parallel texts and database diving. Parallel texts means finding similar texts that were already translated, say, papers in the same field. For this I must have good google fu, and also enough knowledge and judgement to determine whether the other translator did a good job. For this I often rely only on the abstracts of articles. Not because I don't want to read papers, just, I am always on a deadline. Database diving is plain old going to libraries, checking encyclopedias, etc. Obviously translating something in a new field, or new discoveries, is trickier, but it's also more exciting. Your choices will probably end up being "the correct terms". And when all of that fails I do look up and contact specialists to ask them. I've had some fun convos. "- So... you call me from a journal... ? - Eh, no sir, I found your info online and..." Tbh, I think scientific translation is downright easy. Scientific terms end up having one, and only one meaning. Sure, stuff changes as the field develops, but w/e. It's... scientific, at the end of the day. My colleagues who translate legal stuff have it harder, imo. All of those slippery terms that don't have an exact legal figure in the target language? drat, that's hell. And yet they think the same thing about me. They also make more money. Another aspect is that, imo, scientists are better writers than humanities academics, as a rule. A bad scientific writer still writes about a physical thing that does a thing to another thing. I don't expect to find weasel words, which I do expect in humanities writing. tl;dr: languages are awesome, translation is fun and Iove it.
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Jun 15, 2023 18:44
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I'm seeing the Manju Baturo guy claiming that the Chinese writing system is superior because it hasn't changed at all in 3,500 years and it reaffirms that fascists have the stupidest vague concepts of history.
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Jun 15, 2023 18:49
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Dawncloack posted:tl;dr: languages are awesome, translation is fun and Iove it. Thanks, this is really interesting. I would probably enjoy this kind of work if I were actually bilingual (the workflow sounds similar to some of the work that I already do). The part that sounds difficult to me is capturing precise meanings, because it's so crucial that you get it right.
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Jun 15, 2023 18:50
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Funnily enough I am not bilingual, my languages are learnt in the classroom. But that means I only translate into my mother tongue ofc. Yeah, it has the hard parts of finding the precise meanings, but as I said, legal things are harder. And I translated a novel once with plenty of invented words and oooh boy. That was super fun and also hell.
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Jun 15, 2023 18:53
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don't mean to be a dick, but from this article you posted it looks like LG has pretty much fixed it
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Jun 15, 2023 18:53
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Regarde Aduck posted:or is it: government able to actually do things = fascism? yes unless that thing is oppressing minorities then its democracy
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Jun 15, 2023 19:10
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Frosted Flake posted:X-Posting from Ukraine thread because I'm still wrapping my head around the ideology of this book lol that nobody even pretends to teach the classics in american schools anymore despite also somehow simultaneously arguing that theyre the foundation of our entire civilization i recently read the old essays of w m spackman who was a hardcore latin guy and its funny how half the time hes just making GBS threads all over guys like aristotle nobody really seems to get anymore that the reason latin study used to be so big wasnt so we could all collectively suck at the teats of ancient wisdom it was so we could make more accurate and informed shitposts about them
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Jun 15, 2023 19:15
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Best Friends posted:If Germany hadn’t started ww2 and done the holocaust, any higher physics, chemistry or math education would probably be coupled with learning German to this day. there was an incredible multi decade run of German speakers (often Jewish) publishing groundbreaking research in German, in the time when much of modern physics and modern chemistry was being discovered. Egyptology still is, which makes me wonder if the German-Jewish Egyptologists made it out okay.
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Jun 15, 2023 19:19
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it continues to blow my mind how much of the study material for my china ma program was straight up just mainstream western sources doubly so since a lot of it contradicts current orthodoxy on china just from constant shifting of the rhetorical focus wild to learn that google left china not because of any new terrible law they passed but because google had been getting poo poo on constantly for doing business in china at all and one day said "somebody hacked us totally china no you cant see the evidence" and left on their own
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Jun 15, 2023 19:20
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I’ve read a lot of the classics and they don’t need to be taught western classics
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Jun 15, 2023 19:28
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Frosted Flake posted:X-Posting from Ukraine thread because I'm still wrapping my head around the ideology of this book Now, before you make a statement about what the Chinese academia thought of Plato before 1989, don't you need to read at least 2-3 Chinese old Plato books first? And why would those books be translated into English since you can figure there is zero market for them. So how would this woman who majored in latin and classicals knew about it? Unless of course you pulled that out of your rear end. I feel like her publisher told her "nowadays only China-related books gets book deals", so she basically came up with the only angle that 1 relates to her background of study and 2 China related 3 cheerleading for the freeeeee world. Whoila! book deal!
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Jun 15, 2023 19:34
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I have the C2 which seems to have been ok in these tests
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Jun 15, 2023 19:50
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BULBASAUR posted:don't mean to be a dick, but from this article you posted it looks like LG has pretty much fixed it Ill be a dick. gently caress that guy for spreading fake news about TVs
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Jun 15, 2023 19:51
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Jun 15, 2023 19:55
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stephenthinkpad posted:Now, before you make a statement about what the Chinese academia thought of Plato before 1989, don't you need to read at least 2-3 Chinese old Plato books first? And why would those books be translated into English since you can figure there is zero market for them. So how would this woman who majored in latin and classicals knew about it? There was a great book maybe 10 years ago about the reception of Greek and Roman Antiquity in East Asia that, yes, mentioned the Jesuits and whatever but mostly emphasized that Chinese academics are very talented researchers in all fields and are already making contributions to the literature. It’s bizarre to think there’s some innate conception of freedom that’s relevant for translating Hesiod or that the tyrannical CCP is preventing free thinkers from discovering the perfect society of landowning pederasts voting.
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Jun 15, 2023 19:58
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https://twitter.com/AnnQuann/status/1665590346875801602 vietnam is raising ostriches to deter the australians from messing with them
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Jun 15, 2023 20:28
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do they taste like chicken? also things living on base that "can survive bullet wounds" sounds like something the USAF would be interested in
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Jun 15, 2023 20:29
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Ostrich steak is really good, similar to cow steak and with significantly less environmental impact. It's also a lot leaner.
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Jun 15, 2023 20:33
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Ostrich meat is dark, like a cow's. The stuff I had was unnervingly soft, but it tasted fine.
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Jun 15, 2023 20:37
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idgi. plato is an explicitly antidemocratic thinker, so how can you teach him without discussing arguments against democracy? same for most of the greco-roman classics. on account of the low-literacy slave society thing. were they supposed to say, “which is untrue, because western-style liberal electoral regimes are the best” after every paragraph? that’s not how westerners read it (admittedly they mostly read it superficially)
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Jun 15, 2023 20:53
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Chinese political scientists even read western thinkers like Marx that have been branded heretics in the west. The west doesn't even read its own canon
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Jun 15, 2023 21:27
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So this Canadian PR professional who went to work for the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank is leaving after a year and some change, running to the Canadian government about how it has been infiltrated by Chinese communists and burning all sorts of bridges for whatever reason https://twitter.com/BobPickard/status/1668871011968663553 https://twitter.com/BobPickard/status/1669306537209380864
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Jun 15, 2023 21:27
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this allusion meant posted:idgi. plato is an explicitly antidemocratic thinker, the fact that no one today understands this but still cite him as a democracy lover anyway is a pretty compelling argument imo that instruction in latin was a lot more important than anyone is willing to admit not because its actually important but because the origin myth of western civilization so thoroughly hinges on it that youre straight up playing the worlds worst game of telephone if you talk about the superiority of western values without actually bothering to understand its context
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Jun 15, 2023 21:32
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Antonymous posted:Chinese political scientists even read western thinkers like Marx that have been branded heretics in the west. The west doesn't even read its own canon Do they read absolute cranks like Freakonomics, Malcolm Gladwell and Jordan Peterson though?
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Jun 15, 2023 21:33
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crispyseaweed posted:So this Canadian PR professional who went to work for the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank is leaving after a year and some change, running to the Canadian government about how it has been infiltrated by Chinese communists and burning all sorts of bridges for whatever reason smdh at you implying this guys a random nobody by quoting him directly when hes being discussed in serious articles by esteemed journalists https://twitter.com/KenRoth/status/1669379248669220866
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Jun 15, 2023 21:33
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*looking into political scholarship of marxist-leninist state* wait they read western stuff?
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Jun 15, 2023 21:34
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u know how sometimes on the internet you have a stupid argument with someone about a movie neither of you have actually seen youve only read other peoples takes about it and this is considered a low point of discourse literally all discussion of the classics is like this now and our leaders are expected to be able to engage in it personally lol
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Jun 15, 2023 21:36
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Some Guy TT posted:the fact that no one today understands this but still cite him as a democracy lover anyway is a pretty compelling argument imo that instruction in latin was a lot more important than anyone is willing to admit not because its actually important but because the origin myth of western civilization so thoroughly hinges on it that youre straight up playing the worlds worst game of telephone if you talk about the superiority of western values without actually bothering to understand its context western culture and values means calling yourself a freedom loving democracy while functioning as an oligarchy of pedophile slaveowners, it lines up well enough
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Jun 15, 2023 21:36
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Some Guy TT posted:smdh at you implying this guys a random nobody by quoting him directly when hes being discussed in serious articles by esteemed journalists Shocking stuff. I can only imagine the trauma and anguish this man has experienced. Nobody should have to go through this. Just imagine, what if you dedicated your live to investment and economic development, and you found out halfway through you were working for a king???
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Jun 15, 2023 21:40
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Happy Birthday Comrade Xi! (he reads this thread)
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Jun 15, 2023 21:45
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crispyseaweed posted:So this Canadian PR professional who went to work for the Asian Infrastructure Investment Bank is leaving after a year and some change, running to the Canadian government about how it has been infiltrated by Chinese communists and burning all sorts of bridges for whatever reason It's the law now, actually Special Economic Measures Act Special Economic Measures (People’s Republic of China) Regulations Duty to disclose — RCMP or CSIS 7 (1) Every person in Canada, every Canadian outside Canada and every entity set out in section 6 must disclose without delay to the Commissioner of the Royal Canadian Mounted Police or to the Director of the Canadian Security Intelligence Service (a) the existence of property in their possession or control that they have reason to believe is owned, held or controlled by or on behalf of a listed person; and (b) any information about a transaction or proposed transaction in respect of property referred to in paragraph (a). Where a listed person is A person whose name is listed in the schedule is a person who is in the People’s Republic of China, or is a national of the People’s Republic of China who does not ordinarily reside in Canada, and in respect of whom the Governor in Council, on the recommendation of the Minister, is satisfied that there are reasonable grounds to believe is (a) a person who has participated in gross and systematic human rights violations in the People’s Republic of China; (b) a current or former senior official of the Government of the People’s Republic of China; (c) an associate or family member of a person referred to in paragraph (a) or (b); (d) an entity owned, held or controlled, directly or indirectly, by a person referred to in paragraph (a), (b) or (c) or acting on behalf of or at the direction of a person referred to in paragraph (a), (b) or (c); or (e) a senior official of an entity referred to in paragraph (d). Which means if you are a Canadian, you must snitch to the internal security service or intelligence service if you know about any business involving any Chinese person, more or less, since "an associate or family member of a person in the government" is the tip of the iceberg in terms of how broad the application they wrote into that was.
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Jun 15, 2023 21:45
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the sun tzu thing is so racist tho its so funny. chinese guy reading contemporary american political literature: drat why aren't they analyzing jesus christ's teachings I thought that's their thing edit: I originally said ben franklin but i wanted to go more generic and ancient. but it also doesn't work cause americans still love jesus the sun tzu thing is like if chinese people all knew tacitus or something and thought americans were saying every day "what about tacitus. I wonder what tacitus would suggest to do in this political dilemma" and find out nobody gives a gently caress or even knows who that is Antonymous has issued a correction as of 21:52 on Jun 15, 2023 |
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Jun 15, 2023 21:45
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that would be an improvement to what were doing right now tbh since at least ben franklin wrote in english
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Jun 15, 2023 21:47
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just imagine a whole generation of incel culture averted thanks to reading ben franklins guidelines on getting laid
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Jun 15, 2023 21:48
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Some Guy TT posted:smdh at you implying this guys a random nobody by quoting him directly when hes being discussed in serious articles by esteemed journalists oh yeah I saw it in the WSJ. You'd think a PR guy would simmer down now that his story is being covered but he's spending his newfound free time responding to every tweet calling him a CIA agent
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Mantis42 posted:Happy Birthday Comrade Xi! (he reads this thread) wishing xi a blessed happy birthday
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