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Doomykins
Jun 28, 2008

Didn't you mean to ask about flowers?
I found his tells to be relatively generous so stay mobile. Consider +1 dodge charge on boots, an incredible stat for campaign/leveling before WT3. If you haven't upgraded your armor at all go bump everything to stage 3, before you'd spend legendary mats on it. Nice quick power boost. Upgrade rings/amulet at the jeweler. You can also toss aspects on your stuff cheaply if it's very low level(only costs veiled crystals.) Vigo's Amulet or +Bubble on hitting an elite every 30 seconds are great for early survivability boosts.

Slap in more defensives and/or go do some renown building to get +potion cap, it's only the second step. Early bosses are a matter of dealing steady damage until they drop you some more red sip, the more healing and sip you've got yourself the better your odds.

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euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Wheeee posted:

the big bone bro world boss has incredible sound effects

this game in general has amazing sound work, happily pretty much everything bad or even mid about D4 can be fixed, they fuckin nailed the general aesthetic and feel of the game world

His animations are hilarious

I love him

Leon Trotsky 2012
Aug 27, 2009

YOU CAN TRUST ME!*


*Israeli Government-affiliated poster

Rageaholic posted:

Holy poo poo, this Act 6 cinematic. This kicks rear end :black101:

It is definitely one of the best cut scenes they have ever done. It's incredibly long too. Around 9 minutes.

Inarius is so cool in the cutscene it almost makes up for him being a whiny emo deadbeat dad for the rest of the game.

Wuxi
Apr 3, 2012

Stux posted:

its built to stand in melee range of nm dungeon elites and not lose health and even tank through hard cc. do you need it explained to you like youre a child because you cannot understand things without a 10 minute long youtube build guide, or are u able to think about what the builds do differently and why someone might pick one over the other

Any necro build can get 8k hp and armour cap at lvl80. Yes, even a bone necro will live through chained hard cc.


Doomykins posted:

I like the idea that aoe clearing multiple dangerous packs in ten seconds isn't fast enough. The joke is that people want Vampire Survivors but how much faster do things need to be before we're actually there?

"The damage of a single bone spear." So a single button press, split second room clear?

More like two button presses, Corpse Tendrils + Bone Spear.
The damage difference is just insane though, with Bone Spear easily hitting 7 digit damage numbers while also being a multi-hit ability

faantastic
Dec 31, 2006

that dude.

shrike82 posted:

any tips on dealing with brol on WT1 as a barb WW build
i haven't touched Diablo in a decade and this is the first boss i'm having trouble with

brol seems hard to deal with as a melee character

Dodge behind him whenever he winds up, you can dodge right through him and it should save you a lot of headaches. Craft a resource or HP elixir, maybe craft an incense if you're still having issues.

Dr. Clockwork
Sep 9, 2011

I'LL PUT MY SCIENCE IN ALL OF YOU!
Is Crusader's Cathedral on Nightmare just completely bugged out? I'm 3 for 3 popping a sigil, clicking the entrance and the game hard locks so I have to ctrl alt del which of course gets rid of the Nightmare dungeon and I waste a sigil.

trevorreznik
Apr 22, 2023

Gatts posted:

I'm going to buy Diablo IV. But now I have to actually think and plan what I'm going to do vs just do some dumb easy poo poo and gently caress up some builds. Gods, if only I had the patience of my 20 year old self instead of my 41 year old self to do this right.

But being an adult, I'm gonna order some pizza, drink some bourbon and tequila, and stay up late on Friday nights playing.

Normally I go for a melee character...maybe this time I do a Necro or Sorc.

I'm having a good time with a low level arc flash/charged burst sorc. I toss out hydras, teleport and ice armor as well. The melee sorc I never knew I wanted to be , after getting bored with frozen orb that couldn't recapture the magic of d2 orb

harrygomm
Oct 19, 2004

can u run n jump?

faantastic posted:

Dodge behind him whenever he winds up, you can dodge right through him and it should save you a lot of headaches. Craft a resource or HP elixir, maybe craft an incense if you're still having issues.

also like with melee in wow, you can usually just stay glued to the flank/leg of a boss and avoid most hits. idr who brol is exactly but with world bosses like avarice or the butcher encounters, stick on the left leg and spin them in circles and you almost never eat a hit

thiccabod
Nov 26, 2007

Lol my primary character is a barb and I'm level 53 having never encountered the butcher. Just find him in my second dungeon as a hardcore sorcerer art level 13. I had to run so far to get out of that place alive

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

If you like mathil from Poe he has two bone spear YouTubes up. The second one shows how nutty it can be

Your Brain on Hugs
Aug 20, 2006
I'm running a twisting blades build which has been really fun, but I think I might drop poison trap because it takes too long to pop and the radius is so small that by the time it works I've blown up most of the pack with shadow imbue. I've got the aspect that gives massive regen at full momentum stacks, which is pretty much always with twisting blades. What other rogue skills synergize with tb well? I got a good roll umbral so can probably drop puncture too if I want.

One annoying thing is the tooltip comparison doesn't take into account if you've upgraded your weapons, so you have to figure out how much extra damage that's giving you and see if the weapon is above that, because the number will always be red.

DarkDobe
Jul 11, 2008

Things are looking up...

trevorreznik posted:

I'm having a good time with a low level arc flash/charged burst sorc. I toss out hydras, teleport and ice armor as well. The melee sorc I never knew I wanted to be , after getting bored with frozen orb that couldn't recapture the magic of d2 orb

The orb isn't nearly as good as it ought to be.
Even the fancy legendary aspect for it is extremely meh (explodes 2 more times for 20-30% damage). Just a wet noodle of a skill.

bamhand
Apr 15, 2010

Your Brain on Hugs posted:

I'm running a twisting blades build which has been really fun, but I think I might drop poison trap because it takes too long to pop and the radius is so small that by the time it works I've blown up most of the pack with shadow imbue. I've got the aspect that gives massive regen at full momentum stacks, which is pretty much always with twisting blades. What other rogue skills synergize with tb well? I got a good roll umbral so can probably drop puncture too if I want.

One annoying thing is the tooltip comparison doesn't take into account if you've upgraded your weapons, so you have to figure out how much extra damage that's giving you and see if the weapon is above that, because the number will always be red.

The deathtrap version has a paragon thing that makes traps trigger almost instantly. Also the deathtrap itself is super fun.

Pain of Mind
Jul 10, 2004
You are receiving this broadcast as a dream...We are transmitting from the year one nine... nine nine ...You are receiving this broadcast in order t
What does "Lucky Hit: Critical Hits have a 25% chance to spawn an orb lightning" mean? Do you need to get a lucky hit and critical hit on the same hit, and then there is a 25% chance at a spawn? Seems unclear from the text when critical hits and lucky hits are different things.

Astryl
Feb 1, 2005

"15,000 hours of Diablo II isn't that much, dweeb."

thiccabod posted:

Lol my primary character is a barb and I'm level 53 having never encountered the butcher. Just find him in my second dungeon as a hardcore sorcerer art level 13. I had to run so far to get out of that place alive

Literally fresh meat.

thats not candy
Mar 10, 2010

Hell Gem

Pain of Mind posted:

What does "Lucky Hit: Critical Hits have a 25% chance to spawn an orb lightning" mean? Do you need to get a lucky hit and critical hit on the same hit, and then there is a 25% chance at a spawn? Seems unclear from the text when critical hits and lucky hits are different things.

yup exactly

Mailer
Nov 4, 2009

Have you accepted The Void as your lord and savior?

Doomykins posted:

The joke is that people want Vampire Survivors but how much faster do things need to be before we're actually there?

In the previous game you spent nearly all of your time in a rift where the player-recommended difficulty level to run was "as high as you can clear in less than two minutes". We're not even there yet.

Stux
Nov 17, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 40 hours!

Wuxi posted:

Any necro build can get 8k hp and armour cap at lvl80. Yes, even a bone necro will live through chained hard cc.

More like two button presses, Corpse Tendrils + Bone Spear.
The damage difference is just insane though, with Bone Spear easily hitting 7 digit damage numbers while also being a multi-hit ability

bone necro wont drain tank god, and i want to drain tank god. you didnt understand the question to begin with. gg.

How!
Oct 29, 2009

I’m about level 54 with an artisanal flame wall build. I’m loving it. I just run around like a slick Willy burning everything to hell. Double frost nova, firewall, a hydra, arc lash, ice shield and inferno. I tried the capstone dungeon for WT3 and I was doing good damage, but was just getting one shot by everything.

Is lightning or ice shards really that much better?

I do miss greater rifts tho. But I am loving just experimenting with builds. I always felt shoe-horned into the seasonal set builds with d3.

bus hustler
Mar 14, 2019

Mailer posted:

In the previous game you spent nearly all of your time in a rift where the player-recommended difficulty level to run was "as high as you can clear in less than two minutes". We're not even there yet.

D3 is just a really fun slot machine, like sure all ARPGs are, but D3 was bright and shiny and flashy and winking at you while showing a little tit, and like all casinos if you come up for air you realize where you've been for the last 13 hours and the shame sets in

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

I wish the 'specialization' stuff each class got were a bit more even. You have stuff like Necro golem, or barbarian's technique page and then druid gets to choose some like, decent but not exciting buffs and that's it.

bus hustler
Mar 14, 2019

I think it's not controversial to say that the Druid is a little under baked and probably the class which needs the most attention in general.

satanic splash-back
Jan 28, 2009

Once streamers don't have a stranglehold on the meta I think flurry rogue will be a great option because of how many aspects and skills can regenerate life

Ibram Gaunt
Jul 22, 2009

bus hustler posted:

I think it's not controversial to say that the Druid is a little under baked and probably the class which needs the most attention in general.

Yeah it definitely feels like it. It's funny how there's even some flavor like "the Snake doesn't trust humans so you have to donate 100 spirit offerings at once to see his buffs" and its the same boring stuff as the other spirits. Feels like they had a good idea and weren't sure what to do with the spirits and kinda just gave some buff options and called it a day.

goferchan
Feb 8, 2004

It's 2006. I am taking 276 yeti furs from the goodies hoard.

satanic splash-back posted:

Once streamers don't have a stranglehold on the meta I think flurry rogue will be a great option because of how many aspects and skills can regenerate life

Temerity is pretty key IMO. I've found it very hard to die since adding those in. With all the lifesteal they have constant uptime so they're basically unique pants that give ~2500 max HP

soscannonballs
Dec 6, 2007

Wuxi posted:

Any necro build can get 8k hp and armour cap at lvl80. Yes, even a bone necro will live through chained hard cc.

More like two button presses, Corpse Tendrils + Bone Spear.
The damage difference is just insane though, with Bone Spear easily hitting 7 digit damage numbers while also being a multi-hit ability

As a fellow bone bro it is really cute seeing non-bone necros gush about doing like 100k damage per hit. I'm tossing out spears for literal millions of damage in dungeons 20-30 levels higher than in that clip. Seems like most people still don't understand how damage is calculated. Almost every suggestion I see for builds, regardless of spec or class, is suggesting stacking additive damage instead of the juicy multiplicative ones. I am avoiding all additive damage on my gear and I still have 300-500% depending on the condition.

Astryl
Feb 1, 2005

"15,000 hours of Diablo II isn't that much, dweeb."

Yeah but why does the rogue hold her bow sideways?

DarkDobe
Jul 11, 2008

Things are looking up...


Delicious

How!
Oct 29, 2009

DarkDobe posted:


Delicious

I didn’t even know you could get boosters for those skills

boredsatellite
Dec 7, 2013

soscannonballs posted:

As a fellow bone bro it is really cute seeing non-bone necros gush about doing like 100k damage per hit. I'm tossing out spears for literal millions of damage in dungeons 20-30 levels higher than in that clip. Seems like most people still don't understand how damage is calculated. Almost every suggestion I see for builds, regardless of spec or class, is suggesting stacking additive damage instead of the juicy multiplicative ones. I am avoiding all additive damage on my gear and I still have 300-500% depending on the condition.

Bone bros keep winning.

Anyway its fine to like an underpowered skillset and play the game with it, if you like the playstyle. Done that enough in other games. But no need to go into a weird gamer mode when other people talk about it being weak

Astryl
Feb 1, 2005

"15,000 hours of Diablo II isn't that much, dweeb."

DarkDobe posted:


Delicious

My amulet gives +3 Hoarfrost and +2 to all mastery skills. :rms:

queeb
Jun 10, 2004

m



necro may do a ton of damage but then you have to slow walk your rear end through the dungeon

kaxman
Jan 15, 2003

How! posted:

I’m about level 54 with an artisanal flame wall build. I’m loving it. I just run around like a slick Willy burning everything to hell. Double frost nova, firewall, a hydra, arc lash, ice shield and inferno. I tried the capstone dungeon for WT3 and I was doing good damage, but was just getting one shot by everything.

Is lightning or ice shards really that much better?

I do miss greater rifts tho. But I am loving just experimenting with builds. I always felt shoe-horned into the seasonal set builds with d3.

The nicest thing about something like arc lash/currents is that it's all you need, so you can take ice nova for vuln and then ice armor for basic face tanking while still having blink AND fire shield in your pocket to break out of stuns and poo poo. That's how it feels to me, anyway, I'm only 65, just unlocked t4 but haven't started collecting gear here.

Wheeee
Mar 11, 2001

When a tree grows, it is soft and pliable. But when it's dry and hard, it dies.

Hardness and strength are death's companions. Flexibility and softness are the embodiment of life.

That which has become hard shall not triumph.

no teleport is no bueno

DarkDobe
Jul 11, 2008

Things are looking up...

How! posted:

I didn’t even know you could get boosters for those skills

You can get +3 on your amulet, and the Raiment of the Infinite gives 1

Check here:
https://diablo4.cc/us/

Tons of references, including a searchable database of what can drop on what item e.g. Core Skills tend to show up on gloves (eg charged bolts), but Mastery Skills show up on Pants (eg meteor)

Also remember that you can only get +4 by upgrading the item to max level legendary - otherwise they cap at +3
Like so:

DarkDobe fucked around with this message at 04:32 on Jun 16, 2023

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

Part of the Druid “extras” is the were forms as well

KrunkMcGrunk
Jul 2, 2007

Sometimes I sit and think, and sometimes I just sit.

queeb posted:

necro may do a ton of damage but then you have to slow walk your rear end through the dungeon

Check this

https://youtu.be/DLQ03J1bEXU

Stux
Nov 17, 2006
Probation
Can't post for 40 hours!

soscannonballs posted:

As a fellow bone bro it is really cute seeing non-bone necros gush about doing like 100k damage per hit. I'm tossing out spears for literal millions of damage in dungeons 20-30 levels higher than in that clip. Seems like most people still don't understand how damage is calculated. Almost every suggestion I see for builds, regardless of spec or class, is suggesting stacking additive damage instead of the juicy multiplicative ones. I am avoiding all additive damage on my gear and I still have 300-500% depending on the condition.

boredsatellite posted:

Bone bros keep winning.

Anyway its fine to like an underpowered skillset and play the game with it, if you like the playstyle. Done that enough in other games. But no need to go into a weird gamer mode when other people talk about it being weak

one line of dialog npcs stuck on repeat. 0 idea of what theyre even looking at lol

Flowers for QAnon
May 20, 2019

soscannonballs posted:

As a fellow bone bro it is really cute seeing non-bone necros gush about doing like 100k damage per hit. I'm tossing out spears for literal millions of damage in dungeons 20-30 levels higher than in that clip. Seems like most people still don't understand how damage is calculated. Almost every suggestion I see for builds, regardless of spec or class, is suggesting stacking additive damage instead of the juicy multiplicative ones. I am avoiding all additive damage on my gear and I still have 300-500% depending on the condition.

Which ones are additive and which ones are multiplicative?

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euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

The multiplicative ones I think have an x in the tool tip

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