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tristeham
Jul 31, 2022

AnimeIsTrash posted:

It's the indian equivalent of this



lmao

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Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

so the movie return to dust (隐入尘烟) is being released in the united states and the marketing copy claims that its been censored and impossible to see in china all the articles im seeing on this topic date to september so im just curious can anyone whos actually in china confirm if its still banned or if it ever actually was banned tossing the title into baidu seems to bring up no shortage of stories so i cant tell if im actually looking at censorship or if its just a butterfly

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

i found an article that said it flopped at the box office in its opening but when it came out on streaming people realized how good it was and chose to see it in theaters and it got really high praise and its theatrical run ended up doing quite well and it was the highest rated 2022 film on douban.

censorship typically means no commercial theatrical release, and not much else, so sounds like the US advertising is stretching something

edit: Then again, would advertising lie to you? hard to explain that huh

Jel Shaker
Apr 19, 2003

AnimeIsTrash posted:

It's the indian equivalent of this



astonishing

GlassEye-Boy
Jul 12, 2001

Antonymous posted:

i found an article that said it flopped at the box office in its opening but when it came out on streaming people realized how good it was and chose to see it in theaters and it got really high praise and its theatrical run ended up doing quite well and it was the highest rated 2022 film on douban.

censorship typically means no commercial theatrical release, and not much else, so sounds like the US advertising is stretching something

edit: Then again, would advertising lie to you? hard to explain that huh

it's well accepted by Chinese artists that the fastest way to get media attention and make industry waves outside of China is to say that it was censored in China.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Antonymous posted:

censorship typically means no commercial theatrical release, and not much else, so sounds like the US advertising is stretching something

this was my first thought but the marketing copy and all the original articles specifically claim that the movie couldnt be streamed in china either which seems unlikely to me but i cant really check chinese streaming sites if im not actually in china

i do know that i actually watched the movie after you brought it up last year and im not at all sure where i found an english subbed version maybe some place where its since gotten taken down since the print itself obviously came from berlin it wouldnt surprise me to learn that the illegally distributed berlin print being taken down is what was actually being reported on and not the no english subtitle domestic streaming version

R. Guyovich
Dec 25, 1991

i watched it in theaters in beijing lol. some censorship

it made 100 million yuan on a budget of 2 so i don't know how anyone could say it flopped. people were talking about it a lot in its theatrical window

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

GlassEye-Boy posted:

it's well accepted by Chinese artists that the fastest way to get media attention and make industry waves outside of China is to say that it was censored in China.

its a great way to turn around not getting theatrical release domestically but I would guess playing it up too much doesn't look good either if you wanna do domestic films later

Maximo Roboto
Feb 4, 2012

The East has fallen

https://twitter.com/markets/status/1669613704357240833

Cpt_Obvious
Jun 18, 2007


The tech industry has been a massive source of growth for western economies for the past 30 years. Tying more capital up with the Chinese economy creates a financial disincentive to escalation.

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Cpt_Obvious posted:

The tech industry has been a massive source of growth for western economies for the past 30 years. Tying more capital up with the Chinese economy creates a financial disincentive to escalation.

i see so what youre saying is that bill gates is a race traitor who intends to betray america to the authoritarian hordes of the orient

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

only china can make bill gates roll over and show his belly

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
Xi probably will meet Blinken when he comes, thats why he meets Gates first to upstage him.

And if Blinken is meeting Xi, he will need to say something about US is against Taiwan independent on the readout, otherwise Xi won't see him.

If Blinken can't meet Xi, Biden will fire his failson rear end and replace him with Sullivan.

GlassEye-Boy
Jul 12, 2001

stephenthinkpad posted:

Xi probably will meet Blinken when he comes, thats why he meets Gates first to upstage him.

And if Blinken is meeting Xi, he will need to say something about US is against Taiwan independent on the readout, otherwise Xi won't see him.

If Blinken can't meet Xi, Biden will fire his failson rear end and replace him with Sullivan.

No way in hell is Blinken getting a meeting with Xi. Conditions haven't been created and Bejing has no faith in anything the Biden admin says right now.

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

there is no incentive to meet with blinken rn anyway

stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020
Well thats my prediction, white house has to walk back on some of the things they said about Taiwan if they want a temporary truce. Maybe Biden doesn't care about patching the US economy it wouldn't surprise me.

China can work with the global capitalists directly without the US (cue Gates poo poo eating grin)

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

The problem is as we've seen, they'll walk back a statement, than go right back to escalation. The hawkishness on China isn't solely from the US tying to fight a rival its in part to try and boost Brandon's popularity at home everytime people.begin to suspect hes a senile kid toucher. Thats part of the whole dying empire thing

crepeface
Nov 5, 2004

r*p*f*c*
yeah I'd be surprised if he got a meeting with the big man himself

Mantis42
Jul 26, 2010

adbusters has set it's sights on the prc... it's all over chinailures

https://twitter.com/Adbusters/status/1669759345825906693?s=20

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

adbusters should stick to anti-advertising or other gen x counterculture poo poo and leave geopolitics commentary to people with brains

ikanreed
Sep 25, 2009

I honestly I have no idea who cannibal[SIC] is and I do not know why I should know.

syq dude, just syq!
Man they really busted that ad

ModernMajorGeneral
Jun 25, 2010
https://twitter.com/Adbusters/status/1669792018581835776?s=20

what does this mean???

westerners railing against 'tankies' is so weird. Obviously China is a powerful state and the source of all the fear, but given this is addressed towards 'tankie' China sympathisers in the west... who are these people? Who do they think they are shadow boxing? There is literally not a single politician, political party or famous person in the entire western world who could credibly be described as, like a 'tankie', or a pro-China socialist. The 'tankie' representation is a few people on twitter and this fringe subforum of this dead gay comedy forum. Is that really enough to stir up so much angst?

I guess Roger Waters might count?

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

gen xers trying to meme.... cringe

yellowcar
Feb 14, 2010

'tankie' is just something libs picked up from anarkiddies and now they won't stop using it

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Has anyone written a book about the ideology of Gen X?

I was reading one about what the author described as "the Second Generation of Neoconservatives", meaning the ones who had begin to enter graduate school and think tanks in 1989-91, and so weren't the older Jewish American Trotskyists, these would be the people who believe in the End of History most fully, and they're loving warped psychos because of it, but that's still a bit too old for Gen X I think? It would also not apply to most people of that age cohort, just the academia and DC ghouls.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
More like... Tankbusters

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

ModernMajorGeneral posted:


what does this mean???

genocide by definition means physically exterminating a people

cultural genocide is a stretch that could cover a german kid moving to america and learning english in order to go to public school

or you could argue that making a cowboy take off his hat indoors is a type of murder or something

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

retarded used to mean backward, slowed, and also mentally handicapped and it made people feel bad so now we can't say it

genocide meant physical extermination of an entire people through sterilization or murder and specifically did not include political or religious afilliation so that the US couldn't get caught with that in north korea and the word made people feel bad so liberals describe everything that opposes them with it

so unfair

Throatwarbler
Nov 17, 2008

by vyelkin
genocide?

https://twitter.com/CarlZha/status/1669610420808880130

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

the internment of the japanese was a substantially worse version of what happened in Xinjiang but we can't talk about the period in history where "the US genocided all asian americans." People's homes and property were stolen and when it was over they weren't allowed to return to the west coast, ethnic cleansing the western coastal cities

but we can talk about china genociding muslims and people nod. yeah yeah i heard about that that's right that's what's going on

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

FDR was a bigger dictator than Xi. his office wrote legislation that his party rubber stamped it was a de facto suspension of the constitution

Palladium
May 8, 2012

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when chinese tourists find western capital cities more backward than their villages and all you can do is liberalism.txt and WMD.txt

even in my loving singapore where we lagged behind china on digital ID by a decade at least

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Antonymous posted:

the internment of the japanese was a substantially worse version of what happened in Xinjiang but we can't talk about the period in history where "the US genocided all asian americans." People's homes and property were stolen and when it was over they weren't allowed to return to the west coast, ethnic cleansing the western coastal cities

but we can talk about china genociding muslims and people nod. yeah yeah i heard about that that's right that's what's going on

that wasnt genocide you idiot someone clearly isnt keeping up with the latest intellectual developments in free non nazi europe

https://twitter.com/leonidragozin/status/1669260489514254337

Some Guy TT
Aug 30, 2011

Palladium posted:

when chinese tourists find western capital cities more backward than their villages and all you can do is liberalism.txt and WMD.txt

even in my loving singapore where we lagged behind china on digital ID by a decade at least

people trying to use chinese authentication systems and qr codes as proof of their authoritarian tyranny are amazing to me because we have the exact same bullshit in the united states if you want to use literally any service at all they just work way worse because theyre tied to privately administered apps

Weka
May 5, 2019

That child totally had it coming. Nobody should be able to be out at dusk except cars.

Frosted Flake posted:

Has anyone written a book about the ideology of Gen X?

I was reading one about what the author described as "the Second Generation of Neoconservatives", meaning the ones who had begin to enter graduate school and think tanks in 1989-91, and so weren't the older Jewish American Trotskyists, these would be the people who believe in the End of History most fully, and they're loving warped psychos because of it, but that's still a bit too old for Gen X I think? It would also not apply to most people of that age cohort, just the academia and DC ghouls.

That's early gen x.

Antonymous posted:

genocide by definition means physically exterminating a people

cultural genocide is a stretch that could cover a german kid moving to america and learning english in order to go to public school

or you could argue that making a cowboy take off his hat indoors is a type of murder or something

Not according to the guy who coined the term.

Lemkin posted:

New conceptions require new terms. By "genocide" we mean the destruction of a nation or of an ethnic group. This new word, coined by the author to denote an old practice in its modern development, is made from the ancient Greek word genos (race, tribe) and the Latin cide (killing), thus corresponding in its formation to such words as tyrannicide, homicide, infanticide, etc. Generally speaking, genocide does not necessarily mean the immediate destruction of a nation, except when accomplished by mass killings of all members of a nation. It is intended rather to signify a coordinated plan of different actions aiming at the destruction of essential foundations of the life of national groups, with the aim of annihilating the groups themselves. The objectives of such a plan would be disintegration of the political and social institutions, of culture, language, national feelings, religion, and the economic existence of national groups, and the destruction of the personal security, liberty, health, dignity, and even the lives of the individuals belonging to such groups. Genocide is directed against the national group as an entity, and the actions involved are directed against individuals, not in their individual capacity, but as members of the national group.

Edit: I don't think this describes what is happening in China, just to be clear.

Antonymous
Apr 4, 2009

yah and i was wrong the official definition includes religion obviously it does. I just know the internationally recognized definition not some guy's feeligns

intent to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnical, racial or religious group, as such, by methods which are exhaustively stated below
- Killing members of the group;
- Causing serious bodily or mental harm to members of the group;
- Deliberately inflicting on the group conditions of life calculated to bring about its physical destruction in whole or in part;
- Imposing measures intended to prevent births within the group;
- Forcibly transferring children of the group to another group.
- Cultural destruction does not suffice, nor does an intention to simply disperse a group. (that's really what it says)

the meaning doesn't matter its just trying to equate collective punishment in the face of terrorism by way of residency schools, something about as hosed up as our border policy and seperating children, with the holocaust and nazi germany, with the intent not of preventing the wrongdoing, but of giving people excuses for their racism and xenophobia towards chinese people, and building cultural good will toward any future belligerency aimed at the chinese nation

Antonymous has issued a correction as of 05:44 on Jun 17, 2023

Spergin Morlock
Aug 8, 2009

stephenthinkpad posted:

Xi probably will meet Blinken when he comes, thats why he meets Gates first to upstage him.

And if Blinken is meeting Xi, he will need to say something about US is against Taiwan independent on the readout, otherwise Xi won't see him.

If Blinken can't meet Xi, Biden will fire his failson rear end and replace him with Sullivan.

thinking about how Blinken and Gates both have ties to Jeffrey Epstein lol

KomradeX
Oct 29, 2011

Frosted Flake posted:

Has anyone written a book about the ideology of Gen X?

I was reading one about what the author described as "the Second Generation of Neoconservatives", meaning the ones who had begin to enter graduate school and think tanks in 1989-91, and so weren't the older Jewish American Trotskyists, these would be the people who believe in the End of History most fully, and they're loving warped psychos because of it, but that's still a bit too old for Gen X I think? It would also not apply to most people of that age cohort, just the academia and DC ghouls.

I think it was someone on these fourms who once said Gen X couldn't even bother having different politics from their dads and as far as I can tell that's really it. The generation that gave us being too cool care just plugged into parroting whatever the mainstream told them was right and because their stay diet of American pop culture was all anticommunist propaganda they never developed politcs different from the boomers. Hell the only reason I think some millennials did was cause we all saw 9/11 happen when we were in high school and than everytbing got worse for most of us for the rest of our lives. Though that didn't stop ice chewing psychos like mayor Ratboy from going all in on it

Top City Homo
Oct 15, 2014


Ramrod XTreme

An Jung-geun posted:

https://www.scmp.com/week-asia/poli...-discharge-plan

Hahahahaha

Yoon's circus has been a complete national humiliation for SK

radioactive han duck soop

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Palladium
May 8, 2012

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Some Guy TT posted:

people trying to use chinese authentication systems and qr codes as proof of their authoritarian tyranny are amazing to me because we have the exact same bullshit in the united states if you want to use literally any service at all they just work way worse because theyre tied to privately administered apps

"we can't have the govt know stuff about us which they already know from tax filings and citizenship records" is some top tier frictionless brain

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