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Clarste posted:At least give her some tentacles. People love girls with tentacles. They made a confident matron manta ray angler fish demon beast so, yes, they gave the people what they want.
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Zore posted:Its also really bizarre when its treated like this is some unique Japanese phenomenon and that things like The Witcher didn't have the collectable sex cards, or God of War didn't have multiple playable sex scenes where you control Kratos going to town just off screen in the same era. My fiancee when I'm playing The Wicher 3: "make geralt gently caress all the bitches pls I'm begging you. you must do this for me" My fiancee when I'm playing Ys VIII and Dana is on the screen: "wtf is this porny smut you're playing????!" 
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fridge corn posted:My fiancee when I'm playing The Wicher 3: "make geralt gently caress all the bitches pls I'm begging you. you must do this for me" drat I hope I’m lucky enough to get a girl like that somed- quote:My fiancee when I'm playing Ys VIII and Dana is on the screen: "wtf is this porny smut you're playing????!" Well poo poo.
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The Triangle Strategy extra chapter is a little bit cute, just various little character loose-end tying for the true ending. In large part may exist because they realized they went a whole game without making a 'salting the wound' joke and had to fix that.
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Clarste posted:At least give her some tentacles. People love girls with tentacles. theyve got a tentacle girl and shes ripped af 
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nemesis_hub posted:Is the Palace of the Dead in Tactics Ogre actually fun to do or is it more of a completionist grind? no, and you have to do it twice
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I finally am finishing up totk and went back and read all the chatter from many pages back and am glad people reached similar conclusions. The Sidon stuff was especially gadzooks. My wife and I actually thought Sidon's wife was gonna be the sage for so much of that arc lol
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RareAcumen posted:I don't really have much to contribute, all I know is that male designs need to be hotter universally and I think some of the discussion was that having variety in how women look between 'short magician like an FF9 black mage' and Jill and Claire Valentine would be nice. i don't like that remake Claire and Jill have the same outfit when Claire takes her jacket off
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Mierenneuker posted:When I think of Miss Fortune the next words are always "blouse taxed to contain her". That's a reference to some old lore that was terrible from the moment it was typed. no it's funnier than that quote:Miss Fortune spills into the Great Hallway with the same tenacity that she spills into her silk blouse, both taxed to contain her.
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RareAcumen posted:I don't really have much to contribute, all I know is that male designs need to be hotter universally and I think some of the discussion was that having variety in how women look between 'short magician like an FF9 black mage' and Jill and Claire Valentine would be nice. Marisa in Street Fighter 6 is neat at least? And Justice in older Guilty Gears was a really cool female character design. But yeah, it doesn't happen often and it's a shame.
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Marisa is the best! Also pleasantly surprised at how popular she is, think she's the 4th or 5th most played character which is pretty uncommon for atypically designed women.
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Rascyc posted:I finally am finishing up totk and went back and read all the chatter from many pages back and am glad people reached similar conclusions. The Sidon stuff was especially gadzooks. My wife and I actually thought Sidon's wife was gonna be the sage for so much of that arc lol manta ray zora sage would definitely have a cool silhouette. Having finished Tears and watched a couple video essays on overall themes of the game, I am really hoping the next one focuses more on Ganon. He was a functional plot device in this, and I really like some of how the gameplay changes in Tears work in tandem with the new themes of community/collaboration, but I think that another Zelda in 5 years that gives us a more active and fleshed out antagonist could be an amazing time.
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i dont think they're going to write a zelda game with a more fleshed out antagonist than bad guy who wants to kill people. wind waker was the last time they even had a thought about giving ganondorf a real motivation and it was immediately followed by twilight princess writing him the exact same way he's written in tears
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The Colonel posted:i dont think they're going to write a zelda game with a more fleshed out antagonist than bad guy who wants to kill people Maybe they'll farm it out to Capcom and we'll get another Zelda about a bad guy who is just feelin really inadequate about his height 
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The Colonel posted:why is one of these videos a 20 minute essay on a joke sidequest villain who eats bananas Not in position where I can rewatch videos atm, but I suppose I can recap what I remember if that would be helpful to you. Tears of the Kingdom is a game about community and sacrifice. Thematically, the main antagonist is a community of one. Unlike the good guys, when Ganon makes a sacrifice it is an act of spite, not an act of love/duty to help others. He's a dark reflection the heroes, etc. And this does give us some powerful scenes, but they would be much stronger if there was more of a relationship between Link/Ganon, and if he had more of a clear history/reason for what he was doing. The banana man does have a reason for what he is doing, both in terms of relationship with the protagonist and in terms of history in the world. The Yiga clan emerged from a historical injustice (btw, the writer on this site is pompous as hell, but I still rather enjoyed the way they frame the Yiga situation in this article). The previous clash between Link and banana man has also given him a personal grudge. There's also a bit of a character arc for Kohga. He doesn't change a ton, but there's definitely a difference in how you are interacting in the start and in the end. The Yiga can fit into the community/sacrifice themes as a community of nihilists, who are willing to sacrifice themselves in service to the cause of destroying the world that wronged them. Kohga has personal beef with Link because he lost the fight in the last game, but that is also mixed with envy, at how the chosen hero gets handed power over technology that his own people suffered and endured hardship to master. I thought it was pretty elegant seeing that as a little microcosm of the greater Yiga grudge.
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nintendo isn't interested in themes or arcs for its flagship series. the villains are growly bad men you must overcome to save the day, everything beyond that is tea leaves
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Being a simple story that's just set dressing for gameplay is not the worst thing you just need to pace your story like it is just set dressing and Zelda doesn't do that
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no ive played both zelda games i understand what happens in them. i just think it's funny to a 20 minute analysis video on a joke character in a game where you have to actively be trying to infer any deeper theme to begin with. like yeah technically totk is kind of about community and sacrifice but it's only about those in the sense that those are things that happen within the game. it's not really a game that has any interest at all in forming thematic connections between these ideas in any distinguishable way, its plotting and its character writing is too robotic for that. it's really only the sidequests that break into any of that
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Death of the author. Maybe the writers didn't intend it, but that doesn't matter.
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what are you even talking about. i'm saying that on the deepest level you can read it i feel that it's execution of the core themes named here are kinda weaker than a wii game from 2006, not that the reading is false for being unintended
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Oxxidation posted:nintendo isn't interested in themes or arcs for its flagship series. the villains are growly bad men you must overcome to save the day, everything beyond that is tea leaves Hmm, can I dig up any interesting thematic analysis for flagship nintendo games... pokemon and fire emblem might be brand ambassadors now, but they are from quasi-external studios, not sure if they should count. If they do, I could probably spend an hour on a curated list of essays on their themes. Splatoon is pretty big these days. There's been some attention paid to how it is about a new pop culture built on the remnants of an old dead society, and the tension over whether echoing cool stuff from the past might lead to also replicating old mistakes. "Today, we dive into one of the best, most charming, and surprisingly, most relevant games of the past decade in order to examine the themes and ideas that lie beneath its colorful surface. We'll be talking about conflict, capitalism, history, the future, and ourselves, in order to ask: what are the politics of Splatoon? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eynklkIqH2k Here's something on Kirby and the Forgotten Land I dug up searching Critical Distance. Kirby and the Forgotten Land transfers the vulnerability of the survivor onto the wasteland; it inverts the violence of the apocalypse, turning the shattered shell of society into a joyful playground. https://www.gamerswithglasses.com/features/cutest-apocalypse I am now trying to find an article on themes in a semi-recent Mario RPG, since this is RPG thread. Not quite there yet, but this blurb looked enticing (original article is down, so I grabbed an archive.org link): Playing New Super Mario Bros. 2 over the last week, a few things struck me. Is Nintendo, a once mighty company brought to its knees in the last year by the 3DS omnishambles, making some kind of sick joke at its own expense? Has it created a game-length meditation on the financial bubble and its aftermath? Or is it just a gaming dinosaur recycling old tricks in a desperate attempt to recapture past glories? https://web.archive.org/web/20120909143559/https://www.scriptedsequence.com/2012/08/24/new-super-economic-downturn-bros-2/ Found a Kotaku article with a provocative title, but I can definitely see dissonance between writers and company exec coming out here. Nintendo values and loves its history, and that seems to be the implied message throughout the entire game. Super Paper Mario acknowledges that embracing one’s past is important, whether in games or (if you follow the storyline) in love. In an era of gaming that is increasingly transient—where physical media is being replaced by digital media; where technology is outdated by the time it hits shelves; where games function online-only; where games are simply erased from existence—history and the recording of that history becomes ever more crucial. Super Paper Mario, by reframing the past and unifying it with the present, made a compelling, heartfelt argument for its preservation. https://kotaku.com/super-paper-mario-is-a-role-playing-game-about-nintendo-1785945382 Here we go, I was hoping to find something that dug into a nintendo RPG with bad/harmful themes Many of these implicit politics shine through Origami King and despite the joys I had playing, I only found reason to be excited for smaller studios making games inspired by the series. Sure, it has a lot of funny jokes. A lot of the little puzzles and vignettes are also fun as well. However, it’s hard to look past the masculinist colonialist ideals it holds onto and consider coming back again. I’m not sure I’ll be able to forget the fun and laughter of Origami King, but I also won’t forget its problems. https://www.pastemagazine.com/games/paper-mario/paper-mario-the-origami-king-review fake edit: A counter-example if you were looking for Nintendo games with strong themes, and arguably not an RPG, but it did come up as I sifted through Critical Distance and I did enjoy reading it. https://www.pastemagazine.com/games/luigis-mansion-3/luigis-mansion-3-review
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"death of the author" is not a response to saying "the games are not interested in this beyond the surface level". like mother fucker you are literally trying to use it as a talking point against someone treating the text as autonomous.
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The Masculinist Colonialist Ideals Of Paper Mario The Origami King
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*in voice of monster hunter world colonialism article* i cant play paper mario the origami king without being reminded of the trumps
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The writing in TOTK was Fine. I don't think any zelda has writing really worth a poo poo tho. its everything else that comes together to be interesting.
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i think looking at monster hunter through the lens of colonialism is interesting and valid, same with factorio
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link's awakening and majora are cool and i think oot is pretty functional at what it sets out to be, and twilight princess for all its issues largely handles similar ideas better. like i wouldn't point to it as a great story but there are parts of it where it's kinda onto something interesting and most of its characters are fun. wind waker's kinda got nothing going on in the middle but its bigger scenes are decent and its version of ganondorf is a pretty strong alternative take on him
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Ibram Gaunt posted:The writing in TOTK was Fine. I don't think any zelda has writing really worth a poo poo tho. its everything else that comes together to be interesting.
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