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mllaneza posted:We never got this because of corporate shenanigans That hasnt been updated in nearly 13 years. :p The Sierra game I wonder how far along it even was. The only footage im aware of is a trailer that is just footage from the show. It doesnt actually have anything from a real game.
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I said come in! posted:That hasnt been updated in nearly 13 years. :p The Sierra game I wonder how far along it even was. The only footage im aware of is a trailer that is just footage from the show. It doesnt actually have anything from a real game. We do have Christopher Franke's soundtrack, which whips. https://www.soundtrack.net/album/babylon-5-into-the-fire/
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Jun 17, 2023 04:57
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Clouseau posted:I remain upset that TNT did every single thing they could to make Crusade garbage, when there's a world where we have five years of Gary Cole as a starship captain. Maybe Sheridan will trip into it as he's sliding around. Ah, a fellow sicko who actually liked Crusade (or at least, saw its potential if it hadn't been constantly under assault from TNT's internal sabotage). There are dozens of us!
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Jun 17, 2023 06:29
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I said come in! posted:That hasnt been updated in nearly 13 years. :p The Sierra game I wonder how far along it even was. The only footage im aware of is a trailer that is just footage from the show. It doesnt actually have anything from a real game. I believe an alpha of Into the Fire was leaked a few years back, you could fly a starfury around a bunch of ships.
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Jun 17, 2023 09:02
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McSpanky posted:Ah, a fellow sicko who actually liked Crusade (or at least, saw its potential if it hadn't been constantly under assault from TNT's internal sabotage). There are dozens of us! We need a Crusade reboot, not a B5 one.
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Jun 17, 2023 11:14
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Eighties ZomCom posted:We need a Crusade reboot, not a B5 one. Galen sent captain Gideon back in time to teach him a lesson. Something went wrong, he gets stuck and is forced to change name to Kent Davison and work in politics.
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Jun 17, 2023 12:23
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Horizon Burning posted:I believe an alpha of Into the Fire was leaked a few years back, you could fly a starfury around a bunch of ships. I had always heard it was (in theory) six months from release. They also had a bunch of filmed segments. Sadly, I imagine all the dev materials are long gone. If by some miracle they’re still around, they are deep within the bowels of Activision/Blizzard.
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Open Source Idiom posted:I've always thought that Mass Effect, particularly the first game, was heavily inspired by Babylon 5. It was along with things like the 80s Buck Rogers TV show, and the art of Syd Mead.
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Jun 17, 2023 18:30
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Open Source Idiom posted:I've always thought that Mass Effect, particularly the first game, was heavily inspired by Babylon 5. Yea, as soon as I got to the Citadel I was "wait this is Babylon 5, but the aliens run the station". The Reapers are a little like the Shadows/Vorlons but only in the most superficial ways though. Jedit posted:Last Ounce of Courage. And Fred Williamson is in it as well, so I expect there's a number of people there to get a paycheck rather than because they're actually chuds. You tend not to star in these things unless you're a chud though.
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Jun 18, 2023 05:45
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That trailer gave me “All Good Things… vibes.
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Jun 18, 2023 08:13
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I liked and am mostly excited about the trailer but whoever commented on the sound mixing have nailed my real problem with it - G’kar et al being recast is just kind of an inevitability and not worth complaining about. But I can complain that Sheridan’s voice sounds thin and reedy because Bruce Boxleitner, even today, does not sound like that unless there is an audio engineer doing sabotage by cutting the entire low end out of his voice.
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Jun 18, 2023 14:32
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Chevy Slyme posted:I liked and am mostly excited about the trailer but whoever commented on the sound mixing have nailed my real problem with it - G’kar et al being recast is just kind of an inevitability and not worth complaining about. But I can complain that Sheridan’s voice sounds thin and reedy because Bruce Boxleitner, even today, does not sound like that unless there is an audio engineer doing sabotage by cutting the entire low end out of his voice. I'm willing to give them benefit of the doubt that it's a super compressed file that they knew was mostly going to be viewed on phones with crappy speakers.
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Jun 18, 2023 18:37
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I was wondering because it wasn't that long ago he was on Supergirl and he sounded the same.
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Jun 18, 2023 19:31
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I just played Sheridan's back from the dead speech and would pause and go back to his speaking lines in the trailer and they sound pretty much the same, remarkably so given the age differences. I even compared it to some set tour for some new western movie thing and they sounded pretty similar.
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Jun 18, 2023 19:39
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CainFortea posted:I just played Sheridan's back from the dead speech and would pause and go back to his speaking lines in the trailer and they sound pretty much the same, remarkably so given the age differences. I even compared it to some set tour for some new western movie thing and they sounded pretty similar. The diction, cadence, etc are the same. It’s clearly the same person speaking. But the trailer sounds like whoever mixed it turned the Bass on Boxleitner’s voice specifically down to like 20%.
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Jun 18, 2023 22:30
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Chevy Slyme posted:The diction, cadence, etc are the same. It’s clearly the same person speaking. But the trailer sounds like whoever mixed it turned the Bass on Boxleitner’s voice specifically down to like 20%. No, I understood what the claim is. I'm saying it doesn't sound that much different from his other sheridan voice samples.
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Jun 18, 2023 22:50
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I thought it was Bruce's real voice and why isn't it? He's still around iirc I was hoping it would be like the star trek original series animated version where they used the real actor's voices (the ones that were still alive.)
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Jun 18, 2023 23:58
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Spinz posted:I thought it was Bruce's real voice and why isn't it? He's still around iirc It is, but your voice does change with age. Boxleitner aged 70 isn't necessarily going to sound the same as Boxleitner aged 40.
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Jun 19, 2023 00:03
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Jedit posted:It is, but your voice does change with age. Boxleitner aged 70 isn't necessarily going to sound the same as Boxleitner aged 40. Bruce's voice was pretty growly in the 90s. Men's voices tend to go one of two ways as they age, growly or whistly (obviously this is a generalization) so I could see aging being kind to his voice.
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Jun 19, 2023 00:25
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A.o.D. posted:Bruce's voice was pretty growly in the 90s. Men's voices tend to go one of two ways as they age, growly or whistly (obviously this is a generalization) so I could see aging being kind to his voice. Especially if they've been a long-time smoker. Boxleitner is known for being a cigar aficionado, IIRC.
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Jun 19, 2023 00:34
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Delenn sounded like Mira in that, did she lay down voiceover before she passed away, do we know?
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Jun 19, 2023 01:28
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Gaz-L posted:Delenn sounded like Mira in that, did she lay down voiceover before she passed away, do we know? She has been recast.
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A.o.D. posted:Bruce's voice was pretty growly in the 90s. Men's voices tend to go one of two ways as they age, growly or whistly (obviously this is a generalization) so I could see aging being kind to his voice. viz. Jeff Bridges, who presently sounds like he's gargling marbles when he talks.
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Jun 19, 2023 13:25
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Or Dominic Monaghan
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Eighties ZomCom posted:Or Dominic Monaghan Jeff Bridges is the better comparison because they were both in TRON.
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I guess the idea of the telepath colony on B5 was that saving refugees is a good thing, but a bunch of people with no real structure or direction or financial support is going to end up volatile and inconvenient. Which isn't really wrong, but it is narratively unsatisfying. Sheridan had no plan what to do with these people when he took provided them sanctuary, and he forgot about them until they became a problem.
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neongrey posted:She has been recast. Huh, sounded much closer than the G'Kar
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SlothfulCobra posted:Sheridan had no plan what to do with these people when he took provided them sanctuary, and he forgot about them until they became a problem. Phrased like that, it feels staggeringly realistic.
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SlothfulCobra posted:I guess the idea of the telepath colony on B5 was that saving refugees is a good thing, but a bunch of people with no real structure or direction or financial support is going to end up volatile and inconvenient. Sheridan is charismatic, he’s a good military genius, and he tries to be a big drat hero. He is poorly equipped to handle the telepath situation even if you set aside the conflict between Earth regulations on human telepaths and Sheridan’s contempt for the Psi Corps. An established ISA might well have known of a world where this colony could settle and could have quietly relocated them (although odds suggest the Drahk would have messed with the colony at some stage). But at this point, the ISA has no exploration fleet and hence no capacity to provide a colonizable world. The situation is largely intractable. S5 is explicitly tackling the “Great Man” theory and debunking it. As Delenn says in Deconstruction of Falling Stars, “John Sheridan was a good man.” But even he can’t be everything. As a hero to the non-aligned worlds, his main task was to hold the Alliance together in its early years, and he pays a heavy price doing that. I get the impression he is much happier in the Ranger One position with Delenn as head of the ISA.
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Yea, I liked that the telepath situation had no clear answer that they could just pull out and fix the whole thing. No rousing speech, no trap of logic, no sudden technological breakthrough can solve it. It's messy and it's real and it's a direct consequence of what came before.
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Set up the telepath colony on the Markab homeworld.  Though I am curious if anyone ever did try to take over the Markab homeworld, assuming they were a species unaffected by the plague.
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Eighties ZomCom posted:Set up the telepath colony on the Markab homeworld. Sheridan destroyed the jump gate at the start of 2260.
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Jedit posted:Sheridan destroyed the jump gate at the start of 2260. Even some pirates had jump ships in the show so access may be slowed but never stopped. 
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Just Another Lurker posted:Even some pirates had jump ships in the show so access may be slowed but never stopped. No, but large cargo freighters aren't going to sacrifice the weight for jump engines when the network is right there. So the ships that could set up a colony can't get there, just as the graverobbers carrying things away wouldn't be able to.
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Jedit posted:No, but large cargo freighters aren't going to sacrifice the weight for jump engines when the network is right there. So the ships that could set up a colony can't get there, just as the graverobbers carrying things away wouldn't be able to. Won't get into an argument over this but that just doesn't sit right with me. 
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Just Another Lurker posted:Even some pirates had jump ships in the show so access may be slowed but never stopped. The raider vessel with jump engines (the battlewagon) was very much the exception ("It cost us every credit we stole over the last 2 years", or words to that effect) and it was blown up in Signs and Portents. It's also (deliberately) unclear quite how hyperspace navigation works - you generally follow beacons to get places, even the Cortez was in trouble when it fell off the beacon - and the beacons are (assumed? stated?) to be part of the jump gate networks.
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Setting up a colony would there depend on what condition of the buildings and infrastructure left. Assuming those were in decent condition, that would cut down on freight. More so if the food sources on the planet were edible to whatever species sets up a colony there. And that species might go to the trouble of rebuilding a jump gate there too. Probably not a good place for the telepath colony since it would probably be too costly and the ISA would have to foot the bill. But they never really mention how colony worlds are set up either.
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Eighties ZomCom posted:Setting up a colony would there depend on what condition of the buildings and infrastructure left. Assuming those were in decent condition, that would cut down on freight. More so if the food sources on the planet were edible to whatever species sets up a colony there. And that species might go to the trouble of rebuilding a jump gate there too. Probably not a good place for the telepath colony since it would probably be too costly and the ISA would have to foot the bill. But they never really mention how colony worlds are set up either. Explorer-class vessels scout worlds and drop off a beacon if they find one worth turning into a jump point. Then a jump-capable ship carrying a gate follows the beacon and drops off a new gate. The Markab homeworld is probably in pretty good shape only a few years after the plague. The main problem with founding a new colony there is the several billion dead bodies.
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Just Another Lurker posted:Won't get into an argument over this but that just doesn't sit right with me. Even if you had jump engines, without the hyperspace beacon from the vaporized jump gate, how do you even find it?
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They have some kind of hyperspace coordinate system, giving psychics the Markab system is a lot cleaner than I expected assuming that the Markab have an acceptable biosphere for human life. The only real outright plothole with the telepath colony saga is that the show doesn't touch on how most races handle telepaths, and seemingly humans are the only ones with a social problem about it.
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