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Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008


The water entering the craft is part of the experience, right?

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Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Those people paid $250,000 each

19 o'clock
Sep 9, 2004

Excelsior!!!

cat botherer posted:

I got today off for Juneteenth and also because I'm unemployed.

:same:

Nonsense
Jan 26, 2007

Vox Nihili posted:

Those people paid $250,000 each

excess savings

smoobles
Sep 4, 2014

Vox Nihili posted:

Those people paid $250,000 each

dang you'd think that would be qualifying for a lifeboat

Koirhor
Jan 14, 2008

by Fluffdaddy

Nonsense posted:

excess savings

Raskolnikov38
Mar 3, 2007

We were somewhere around Manila when the drugs began to take hold

smoobles posted:

dang you'd think that would be qualifying for a lifeboat

lmao

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Engorged Pedipalps
Apr 21, 2023

The best part about dying to skip out on debt is the debt collectors pleading with your family to pay it off

"You know we don't have to pay this right?"

"Y-yeah, but you could!"

RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007

Vox Nihili posted:

Those people paid $250,000 each

yup, too late for a refund now though. bummer.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Engorged Pedipalps posted:

The best part about dying to skip out on debt is the debt collectors pleading with your family to pay it off

"You know we don't have to pay this right?"

"Y-yeah, but you could!"

48 hours after we had to pull the plug on my wife’s mother, Idaho sent us a bill for her medical expenses to the tune of just over $1,500,000 with a “pretty please” in legalese. We laughed and asked the funeral home to burn it with her and they happily said yes.

Animal-Mother
Feb 14, 2012

RABBIT RABBIT
RABBIT RABBIT

Vox Nihili posted:

Those people paid $250,000 each

covid stimulus checks, no doubt :argh:

these lazy people should have been back in the office

Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

FlapYoJacks posted:

48 hours after we had to pull the plug on my wife’s mother, Idaho sent us a bill for her medical expenses to the tune of just over $1,500,000 with a “pretty please” in legalese. We laughed and asked the funeral home to burn it with her and they happily said yes.

america is so cool

JAY ZERO SUM GAME
Oct 18, 2005

Walter.
I know you know how to do this.
Get up.


Animal-Mother posted:

covid stimulus checks, no doubt :argh:

these lazy people should have been back in the office

drowning in paperwork!!!

Ragaduffin
Nov 28, 2007
Far out dude

I was a little confused by the article text,

article posted:

The missing craft is believed to be OceanGate's Titan submersible, a truck-sized sub that holds five people and usually dives with a four-day supply of oxygen.

It is not known when contact with the craft was lost.

"Our entire focus is on the crewmembers in the submersible and their families," OceanGate said in a statement.

"We are deeply thankful for the extensive assistance we have received from several government agencies and deep sea companies in our efforts to re-establish contact with the submersible," it added.

The company bills the eight-day trip on its carbon-fibre submersible as a "chance to step outside of everyday life and discover something truly extraordinary".

But I think its just shoddy writing - sounds like an 8 day boat trip in total, with just a brief time actually diving. 8 days on a submersible that size would be beyond a nightmare.

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Ragaduffin posted:

I was a little confused by the article text,

But I think its just shoddy writing - sounds like an 8 day boat trip in total, with just a brief time actually diving. 8 days on a submersible that size would be beyond a nightmare.

gonna go fart in the submersible

BornAPoorBlkChild
Sep 24, 2012

FlapYoJacks posted:

48 hours after we had to pull the plug on my wife’s mother, Idaho sent us a bill for her medical expenses to the tune of just over $1,500,000 with a “pretty please” in legalese. We laughed and asked the funeral home to burn it with her and they happily said yes.


sociopaths


loving SOCIOPATHS



the culture we have now is so far removed from wanting Profit

like willing to do literally ANYTHING (i cannot stress this enough: ANYTHING) for profit

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PPy0JLnXFtI

That Works
Jul 22, 2006

Every revolution evaporates and leaves behind only the slime of a new bureaucracy


Vox Nihili posted:

Those people paid $250,000 each

money sink

Chad Sexington
May 26, 2005

I think he made a beautiful post and did a great job and he is good.

I had some money sitting in a retirement account waiting for the market to get sane again.

Oh well, CD it is I guess

Microplastics
Jul 6, 2007

:discourse:
It's what's for dinner.
BRB setting up a company to sell tickets to see the lost Titanic tourist submersible

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

No-questions-asked Medicaid is ending & states are throwing people off the rolls by the millions.

But what was notable was the number of Americans who had a little single-payer, as a treat, thx to the Trump & Congress:

quote:

More than 1 million dropped from Medicaid as states start post-pandemic purge of rolls

About 1.5 million people have lost Medicaid coverage in more than two dozen states as a post-pandemic purge of the rolls gets underway

More than 1 million people have been dropped from Medicaid in the past couple months as some states moved swiftly to halt health care coverage following the end of the coronavirus pandemic.

Most got dropped for not filling out paperwork.

Though the eligibility review is required by the federal government, President’s Joe Biden’s administration isn’t too pleased at how efficiently some other states are accomplishing the task.

“Pushing through things and rushing it will lead to eligible people — kids and families — losing coverage for some period of time,” Daniel Tsai, a top federal Medicaid official recently told reporters.

Already, about 1.5 million people have been removed from Medicaid in more than two dozen states that started the process in April or May, according to publicly available reports and data obtained by The Associated Press.

Florida has dropped several hundred thousand people, by far the most among states. The drop rate also has been particularly high in other states. For people whose cases were decided in May, around half or more got dropped in Arkansas, Idaho, Kansas, Nevada, New Hampshire, Oklahoma, South Dakota, Utah and West Virginia.

By its own count, Arkansas has dropped more than 140,000 people from Medicaid.

The eligibility redeterminations have created headaches for Jennifer Mojica, 28, who was told in April that she no longer qualified for Medicaid because Arkansas had incorrectly determined her income was above the limit.

She got that resolved, but was then told her 5-year-old son was being dropped from Medicaid because she had requested his cancellation — something that never happened, she said. Her son’s coverage has been restored, but now Mojica says she’s been told her husband no longer qualifies. The uncertainty has been frustrating, she said.

“It was like fixing one thing and then another problem came up, and they fixed it and then something else came up,” Mojica said.

Arkansas officials said they have tried to renew coverage automatically for as many people as possible and placed a special emphasis on reaching families with children. But a 2021 state law requires the post-pandemic eligibility redeterminations to be completed in six months, and the state will continue “to swiftly disenroll individuals who are no longer eligible,” the Department of Human Services said in statement.

Arkansas Gov. Sarah Huckabee Sanders has dismissed criticism of the state’s process.

“Those who do not qualify for Medicaid are taking resources from those who need them,” Sanders said on Twitter last month. “But the pandemic is over — and we are leading the way back to normalcy.”

More than 93 million people nationwide were enrolled in Medicaid as of the most recent available data in February — up nearly one-third from the pre-pandemic total in January 2020. The rolls swelled because federal law prohibited states from removing people from Medicaid during the health emergency in exchange for providing states with increased funding.

Now that eligibility reviews have resumed, states have begun plowing through a backlog of cases to determine whether people's income or life circumstances have changed. States have a year to complete the process. But tracking down responses from everyone has proved difficult, because some people have moved, changed contact information or disregarded mailings about the renewal process.

Before dropping people from Medicaid, the Florida Department of Children and Families said it makes between five and 13 contact attempts, including texts, emails and phone calls. Yet the department said 152,600 people have been non-responsive.

Their coverage could be restored retroactively, if people submit information showing their eligibility up to 90 days after their deadline.

Unlike some states, Idaho continued to evaluate people's Medicaid eligibility during the pandemic even though it didn't remove anyone. When the enrollment freeze ended in April, Idaho started processing those cases — dropping nearly 67,000 of the 92,000 people whose cases have been decided so far.

“I think there’s still a lot of confusion among families on what’s happening,” said Hillarie Hagen, a health policy associate at the nonprofit Idaho Voices for Children.

She added, “We’re likely to see people showing up at a doctor’s office in the coming months not knowing they’ve lost Medicaid.”

Advocates fear that many households losing coverage may include children who are actually still eligible, because Medicaid covers children at higher income levels than their parents or guardians. A report last year by the U.S. Department of Health and Human Services forecast that children would be disproportionately impacted, with more than half of those disenrolled still actually eligible.

That's difficult to confirm, however, because the federal Centers for Medicare & Medicaid Services doesn't require states to report a demographic breakdown of those dropped. In fact, CMS has yet to release any state-by-state data. The AP obtained data directly from states and from other groups that have been collecting it.


Medicaid recipients in numerous states have described the eligibility redetermination process as frustrating.

Julie Talamo, of Port Richey, Florida, said she called state officials every day for weeks, spending hours on hold, when she was trying to ensure her 19-year-old special-needs son, Thomas, was going to stay on Medicaid.

She knew her own coverage would end but was shocked to hear Thomas’ coverage would be whittled down to a different program that could force her family to pay $2,000 per month. Eventually, an activist put Talamo in contact with a senior state healthcare official who confirmed her son would stay on Medicaid.

“This system was designed to fail people,” Talamo said of the haphazard process.

Some states haven't been able to complete all the eligibility determinations that are due each month. Pennsylvania reported more than 100,000 incomplete cases in both April and May. Tens of thousands of cases also remained incomplete in April or May in Arizona, Arkansas, Indiana, Iowa, New Mexico and Ohio.

“If states are already behind in processing renewals, that’s going to snowball over time," said Tricia Brooks, a research professor at the Georgetown University Center for Children and Families. "Once they get piles of stuff that haven’t been processed, I don’t see how they catch up easily.”

Among those still hanging in the balance is Gary Rush, 67, who said he was notified in April that he would lose Medicaid coverage. The Pittsburgh resident said he was told that his retirement accounts make him ineligible, even though he said he doesn’t draw from them. Rush appealed with the help of an advocacy group and, at a hearing this past week, was told he has until July to get rid of about $60,000 in savings.

Still, Rush said he doesn’t know what he will do if he loses coverage for his diabetes medication, which costs about $700 a month. Rush said he gets $1,100 a month from Social Security.

In Indiana, Samantha Richards, 35, said she has been on Medicaid her whole life and currently works two part-time jobs as a custodian. Richards recalled receiving a letter earlier this year indicating that the pandemic-era Medicaid protection was ending. She said a local advocacy group helped her navigate the renewal process. But she remains uneasy.

“Medicaid can be a little unpredictable,” Richards said. “There is still that concern that just out of nowhere, I will either get a letter saying that we have to reapply because we missed some paperwork, or I missed a deadline, or I’m going to show up at the doctor’s office or the pharmacy and they’re going to say, ‘Your insurance didn’t go through.’”

Between the third of the country that was on NQA Medicaid as well as those covered by the VA and by Medicare there were probably more people on single-payer healthcare in America for a brief time than were not, but Pres. Pop-Pop is ensuring that treat time is now OVER.

Willa Rogers has issued a correction as of 19:56 on Jun 19, 2023

Koirhor
Jan 14, 2008

by Fluffdaddy
vidcon crossover

https://twitter.com/houseflippersim/status/1670831836971384848?s=20

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

I wonder if any studies will be done to determine whether medical bankruptcies dropped during the NQA medicaid enrollments. :allears:

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Willa Rogers posted:

No-questions-asked Medicaid is ending & states are throwing people off the rolls by the millions.

But what was notable was the number of Americans who had a little single-payer, as a treat, thx to the Trump & Congress:

Between the third of the country that was on NQA Medicaid as well as those covered by the VA and by Medicare there were probably more people on single-payer healthcare in America for a brief time than were not, but Pres. Pop-Pop is ensuring that treat time is now OVER.

savings/cash on hand must be determined per state, i remember looking in CA and its way higher than 60K

Willa Rogers
Mar 11, 2005

I thought that assets like savings aren't included in Medicaid determination for states that expanded medicaid under the ACA, so that $60k spend-down doesn't make sense for PA, unless states are given exception for assets tests.

But after death even states like CA & IL can (and do!) demand repayment from the person's estate, lol, for all medical care that was provided when the person was alive.

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Willa Rogers posted:

No-questions-asked Medicaid is ending & states are throwing people off the rolls by the millions.

But what was notable was the number of Americans who had a little single-payer, as a treat, thx to the Trump & Congress:

Between the third of the country that was on NQA Medicaid as well as those covered by the VA and by Medicare there were probably more people on single-payer healthcare in America for a brief time than were not, but Pres. Pop-Pop is ensuring that treat time is now OVER.

lol i was posting in the wrong thread cause i saw limit and thought it was different but cali changed it recently. that guy is in PA for reference

penn

cali

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007
i recommend getting a family member to set up a gofundme that is on paper legit and taking the whole asset value as a nontaxable gift. wheres my tax lawyer degree

Thorn Wishes Talon
Oct 18, 2014

by Fluffdaddy

Willa Rogers posted:

No-questions-asked Medicaid is ending & states are throwing people off the rolls by the millions.

But what was notable was the number of Americans who had a little single-payer, as a treat, thx to the Trump & Congress:

Between the third of the country that was on NQA Medicaid as well as those covered by the VA and by Medicare there were probably more people on single-payer healthcare in America for a brief time than were not, but Pres. Pop-Pop is ensuring that treat time is now OVER.

yep, everything is biden's fault :)

Homeless Friend
Jul 16, 2007

Thorn Wishes Talon posted:

yep, everything is biden's fault :)

the first good thorn post....

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

BornAPoorBlkChild posted:


sociopaths


loving SOCIOPATHS



the culture we have now is so far removed from wanting Profit

like willing to do literally ANYTHING (i cannot stress this enough: ANYTHING) for profit

My mother in law had half of a functioning lung thanks to polio during her childhood. Also extreme rheumatoid arthritis where her fingers and toes were fused together. By the time I met her she was on a trache and was in a nursing home, but that lady had some crazy stories and an awesome scrapbook of them to back the stories up.

If she had a house the state would have taken it for sure. I hate this country and it’s “healthcare system” with the fire of a million burning suns.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Thorn Wishes Talon posted:

yep, everything is biden's fault :)

gently caress off rape apologist.

skooma512
Feb 8, 2012

You couldn't grok my race car, but you dug the roadside blur.

Engorged Pedipalps posted:

We got an extra day off for fourth of July (making it a four day weekend) which I assume is some kind of weird politics statement

The 4th is a Tuesday this year so I guess it makes sense to just bridge that gap with a makeup Juneteeth this year.

Thorn Wishes Talon
Oct 18, 2014

by Fluffdaddy

Homeless Friend posted:

the first good thorn post....

trump 2024! :patriot:

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Brimruk
Jun 5, 2009

Willa Rogers posted:

No-questions-asked Medicaid is ending & states are throwing people off the rolls by the millions.

But what was notable was the number of Americans who had a little single-payer, as a treat, thx to the Trump & Congress:

Between the third of the country that was on NQA Medicaid as well as those covered by the VA and by Medicare there were probably more people on single-payer healthcare in America for a brief time than were not, but Pres. Pop-Pop is ensuring that treat time is now OVER.

Eddie murphy face: can't put the kids in cages if they're dead from lack of healthcare. Truly the people's president

RadiRoot
Feb 3, 2007

Microplastics posted:

BRB setting up a company to sell tickets to see the lost Titanic tourist submersible

:lmao:

Pittsburgh Fentanyl Cloud
Apr 7, 2003


Looks like the ongoing flood of anti-homeless propaganda is having the desired effect



https://www.cbsnews.com/pittsburgh/news/fire-that-destroyed-veterans-home-shuttle-bus-under-investigation/

Vox Nihili
May 28, 2008

Willa Rogers posted:

No-questions-asked Medicaid is ending & states are throwing people off the rolls by the millions.

But what was notable was the number of Americans who had a little single-payer, as a treat, thx to the Trump & Congress:

Between the third of the country that was on NQA Medicaid as well as those covered by the VA and by Medicare there were probably more people on single-payer healthcare in America for a brief time than were not, but Pres. Pop-Pop is ensuring that treat time is now OVER.

Starving people and denying healthcare via application of a hostile, passive bureaucracy is so monstrously loving evil.

Nothus
Feb 22, 2001

Buglord
The boot goes back on the throat

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Centrist Committee
Aug 6, 2019

Thorn Wishes Talon posted:

trump 2024! :patriot:

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good hoot

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