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Alan Smithee posted:Russia’s answer to decoy tanks well yeah it's a waste of money to make something else that does the same job
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Kinda-sorta relevant to the thread; Oryx is closing up shop. https://twitter.com/oryxspioenkop/status/1670723829713215489
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Jun 19, 2023 10:32
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That’s a shame. Guy did some really impressive OSINT work but I can totally see how it would wear one down after a while, let alone ten years of it. I hope his next endeavors make him happier. This is an intense video (CW: intense CQB, combatants being shot even if blurred and no gore) of Ukrainian SOF clearing a Russian trench near Zaporizhzhia. I’m struck by how well built the trench seems and also by how the Russians had no idea that the Ukrainians were right on top of them, which I feel simultaneously points to why the counteroffensive is producing limited gains so far and also how the Russians still continue to suck on a tactical level.
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Jun 19, 2023 10:41
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Bit surprising, given that ISW's donations have gone through the roof since they started offering their daily assessments, and this has allowed them to hire more staff and expand the scope of their analyses to include other regions. Maybe Oryx just failed to realize how to run a successful non-profit?pantslesswithwolves posted:That’s a shame. Guy did some really impressive OSINT work but I can totally see how it would wear one down after a while, let alone ten years of it. I hope his next endeavors make him happier. Some of the anecdotal evidence coming out of interviews with PoWs has suggested that MAXPROs are a major gamechanger since they carry a larger number of infantry than the HMMWVs, have improved protection from RPGs and mines, and can drive quickly. Rather than advancing dismounted across the last 100 meters, the attacking force can roll right up to the trench after the initial artillery barrage and hop in. psydude fucked around with this message at 10:46 on Jun 19, 2023 |
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Jun 19, 2023 10:42
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Oryx categorically refused to keep any money donated to their Patreon, choosing instead to send the money onwards to charities that could do some good with the cash. He hoped for a career, not an unreliable source of income.
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psydude posted:Bit surprising, given that ISW's donations have gone through the roof since they started offering their daily assessments, and this has allowed them to hire more staff and expand the scope of their analyses to include other regions. Maybe Oryx just failed to realize how to run a successful non-profit? oryx has some bad health problems and had a major health scare a few months ago so there's likely some connection to that. but yeah probably that too, idk if oryx was ever really monetized whatsoever outside of a couple of donation links that, iirc, he actually often discouraged people from donating to. a bunch of osint people seem to have an expectation that someone is going to track them down and hire them out of the blue which uh definitely does not seem to be grounded in anything at all.
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Jun 19, 2023 10:47
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SerthVarnee posted:Oryx categorically refused to keep any money donated to their Patreon, choosing instead to send the money onwards to charities that could do some good with the cash. He hoped for a career, not an unreliable source of income. And now they're closing up shop, which does no good for anybody.
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Jun 19, 2023 10:53
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psydude posted:And now they're closing up shop, which does no good for anybody. If he doesn't feel up to continuing, it's good for them to stop. Really that's the bottom line, though hopefully someone picks up the torch.
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Jun 19, 2023 10:59
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Rust Martialis posted:If he doesn't feel up to continuing, it's good for them to stop. Really that's the bottom line, though hopefully someone picks up the torch. Well that's kind of my point. If he'd taken the BrownMoses approach then he could have hired other people to continue the good work instead of getting burned out and having to throw in the towel. Just an unfortunate missed opportunity. But if the guy doesn't want to carry on, then so be it.
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Jun 19, 2023 11:02
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psydude posted:And now they're closing up shop, which does no good for anybody. It does good for them. Pay or no, the work has been burning them out. I will miss the information that they share, but I am happy for them realizing the way of the knife.
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Bum the Sad posted:Probably why it’s at a crawl. In low gear with a brick on the throttle. Seems like you were largely correct --- a previous SV-how-you-spell it based on an MT-LB had a somewhat primitive control method: https://twitter.com/Mortis_Banned/status/1670696609024204800 (What was rendered in summary as "fixing the controls" in the original text uses the expression that's roughly "manual throttle"; maybe y'all who know how that thing drives can say more accurately what it means; supposedly had a RC detonator, though) Edit: actually a different incident! OddObserver fucked around with this message at 11:56 on Jun 19, 2023 |
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Jun 19, 2023 11:52
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Imagine being the poor conscript who has to drive 300 meters on top of several tonnes of explosives. That has to be a bowel-loosening experience.
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Jun 19, 2023 11:55
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if they were smart they would drive it to within 299 meters of the front, just out of range of the javelin
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Jun 19, 2023 12:03
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Rust Martialis posted:If he doesn't feel up to continuing, it's good for them to stop. Really that's the bottom line, though hopefully someone picks up the torch. That would be hard. The big value add from Oryx is that he was really good at recognizing repeat photos of the same kills. This is important, because Russian channels are still being flooded with photos of Ukrainian tanks that were destroyed a year ago. If you haven't already seen 20 photos from different angles of each tank, and memorized them, you can't really do what he did.
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Jun 19, 2023 12:39
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psydude posted:Well that's kind of my point. If he'd taken the BrownMoses approach then he could have hired other people to continue the good work instead of getting burned out and having to throw in the towel. He'd also be living a life of enduring even more death threats as mentally ill basement dwellers become convinced he's taking CIA money to start wars. I don't blame him for not wanting to turn this into a real operation.
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pantslesswithwolves posted:That’s a shame. Guy did some really impressive OSINT work but I can totally see how it would wear one down after a while, let alone ten years of it. I hope his next endeavors make him happier. Man those russkies were not loving paying attention. Everyone just wandered into the line of fire WHERE SOMEONE ELSE WAS JUST MOWED DOWN. Ah well, gently caress em.
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Wasabi the J posted:Man those russkies were not loving paying attention. Everyone just wandered into the line of fire WHERE SOMEONE ELSE WAS JUST MOWED DOWN. I've given up on trying to understand any of their decision making. Too many things just make me shake my head and say what the gently caress were you thinking.
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Jun 19, 2023 17:14
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I figure trench fighting is probably just hard, especially with the sleep depravation etc from being in that area.
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Jun 19, 2023 17:15
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Dandywalken posted:I figure trench fighting is probably just hard, especially with the sleep depravation etc from being in that area. A competent fighting force has drilled at least enough for you to sleepwalk away from bang bangs Experience: a couple days cumulative throughout my career, avoiding bang bangs
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Jun 19, 2023 17:21
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This "drill" stuff sounds like it might be for homos. Now take this old AT rifle.
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Nessus posted:This "drill" stuff sounds like it might be for homos. Now take this old AT rifle. Time spent training is time not spent hazing, and we know which of those the Russian army likes better. 
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Jun 19, 2023 17:32
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According to reporting, this was an SSO raid that hit from the rear, adding to the confusion.
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 Claim is KA-52 ejected external tanks and... did this somehow. Vid here.
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What's the question?
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:in theory those sorts of weapons can still be used to disable optics and the like, even on a modern tank like the 2A6. Vahakyla posted:
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Dandywalken posted:
Pilot fat-fingered the ejection buttons
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Tiny Timbs posted:Pilot fat-fingered the ejection buttons dunno why we even have an ejection button for the vertical stabilizer but I guess it's too late to ask the designers
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Yeah the chunk of tail flying off is what surprised me.
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Dandywalken posted:Yeah the chunk of tail flying off is what surprised me. That's not very typical, I'd like to make that point.
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Man that Cav Scout NCO at Knox is gonna be pissed when finds this out. when I did basic light at Ft. Knox, some Cav Scout NCO went on a unprompted rant about how Cav scouts aren't useless against tanks because they can just shoot out the optics on armor and scoot away before anyone knows what's up. I just nodded and said nothing because I wanted to finish whatever I was doing and go eat without getting gently yelled at.
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I don't know why they would design a helicopter that can do that Does it regrow its tail
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McGavin posted:That's not very typical, I'd like to make that point. Ironically, recontacting with dropped bombs/tanks and losing parts of or whole tails is in fact something that has happened often enough that you might call it typical. There's an amazing montage of American incidents like it on youtube, but sadly I can't find it right now.
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Jun 19, 2023 20:30
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McGavin posted:That's not very typical, I'd like to make that point. Are they built to some standards?
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Tuna-Fish posted:Ironically, recontacting with dropped bombs/tanks and losing parts of or whole tails is in fact something that has happened often enough that you might call it typical. There's an amazing montage of American incidents like it on youtube, but sadly I can't find it right now. His post was a bit referencing the Australian comedy skit about the front of an oil tanker falling off.
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Rust Martialis posted:Are they built to some standards? Some of them are built so that the tail doesn't fall off at all.
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Hekk posted:His post was a bit referencing the Australian comedy skit about the front of an oil tanker falling off. I am aware, which is why it's also funny that it is kind of a typical accident.
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McGavin posted:Some of them are built so that the tail doesn't fall off at all. So what happened to this one?
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Rust Martialis posted:So what happened to this one? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fPTnmZ_HPAs Drop stuff but stuff gets some lift and hits you.
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Rust Martialis posted:So what happened to this one? Much like a lizard letting its tail go to avoid a predator, the helo can’t help but be a dark copy of good wholesome nature itself. One of its natural predator (the MANPAD) got but a taste of the prey it sought, and will have to recoup its energy loss elsewhere now.
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I really don't think anyone in the US forces is in a position to talk about silly helicopter designs that actively try to kill their occupants. e: unless they're trying to sell one
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