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Tunicate posted:I remember seeing a psycho on reddit saying that clearly since totk improves on botw in so many areas that it's actually the REAL game the botw developers wanted to make, but nintendo forced them to release something incomplete, and replacing the shrines and putting in the zonai is the original True Vision for botw. lol someone in this thread called totk a "botw DLC"
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Jun 19, 2023 20:46
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Oh, and required viewing for any timeline discussion: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q-25c8Rsobw
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Jun 19, 2023 20:47
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It's literally a legend, we're going through a retelling of an ancient story that may or may not have happened as any of the retellings have told. Each version is told by a different storyteller who likes different parts of the story they learned and adds new wrinkles to entertain their audience. This makes more sense to me than trying to shoehorn things into a timeline that was written between ten and 35 years ago and may have simply been spun from whole cloth when the developers realized they could get nerds to pay money for it. But I kind of like timeline discussion, as conspiracy theorists go y'all are more palatable than the birds aren't real folk. MorningMoon posted:Just a lot of gloom that comes out every few centuries due to build up. You gotta open the gloom valve every so often when you're using your castle, can't let it build up
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Jun 19, 2023 20:51
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the answer is link has head trauma at the start of every zelda and has been in a coma so he's not exactly clear on details.
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Jun 19, 2023 20:56
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The main character, the little green man, of Zelda is named Zelda. It would be crazy to have a video game where your protagonist is not the title of the game, ref. Super Mario. It’s Zelda’s job to find the yellow triangle and make his sword shoot lasers, sometimes there is a Princess involved but she isn’t named, she just has a title. Every Zelda in each new Zelda game is explicitly the son of the previous Zelda. The other constant in the timeline is Zelda’s pervert uncle Tingle, who was banned from Hyrule Castle by Gannondorf. You find him in the dungeon of the castle for sex crimes in A Link to the Past. The first game in the series is the Minish Cap because the main Zelda in that one is very small, but after generations of selective breeding with the blue fish people, we arrive at the current Zelda who is the tallest so far. Hope this clears things up.
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Jun 19, 2023 21:02
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LifeSunDeath posted:the answer is link has head trauma at the start of every zelda and has been in a coma so he's not exactly clear on details. Breath of the Wild 3: link wakes up in the temple of metamorphosis. he has lost everything except for a small tablet. the camera app is open to a single picture of Beedle with the caption "don't believe his lies"
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Jun 19, 2023 21:07
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Man I just can’t find a way to kill these Lynel motherfuckers. Any particular reason they don’t have a big healthbar like other big baddies? I find that weird because they’re hard as nails.
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Jun 19, 2023 21:07
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I think the most memorable part of the game for me was in the first 10 hours of the game or so. Sure, building Zonai devices is cool. But the moment that brought the most sheer joy to me was exploring Hyrule field when suddenly a pool of gloom appears, and a bunch of gloom hands pop up and begin chasing me. I had not seen or heard anything about them, they didn't look familiar to anything we've seen in the past games, so I was completely taken aback. Having only like 4 hearts, and no idea on how to fight it, the only thing I could possibly imagine doing was just running for it. I ran, and ran, and ran, and the things still chased me. I was terrified, but I was grinning ear to ear with sheer joy. Eventually I climbed up on some rocks and jumped off with my glider. I turned around to see if it was still chasing me, and in that moment it began raining, and the gloom hands died in a puff of smoke. What a magical game.
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Jun 19, 2023 21:16
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BigglesSWE posted:Man I just can’t find a way to kill these Lynel motherfuckers. Any particular reason they don’t have a big healthbar like other big baddies? I find that weird because they’re hard as nails. Hitting them in the face with an arrow, right between the eyes, will stagger them and let you hop on their back to deal tons of damage. Easiest to do if you can make an updraft by tossing a fire item at somegrass. The rodeo attack does not use weapon durability, and you can switch weapons as you hop on its back so you can for-sure hop on before changing weapons, so just switch to the highest damage thing you have When he bucks you off, you can land a few free arrow hits to the back of his head before landing.
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Jun 19, 2023 21:20
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CainFortea posted:lol someone in this thread called totk a "botw DLC" Joke's on them, there was a third cutscene after all 
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Jun 19, 2023 21:22
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BigglesSWE posted:Man I just can’t find a way to kill these Lynel motherfuckers. Any particular reason they don’t have a big healthbar like other big baddies? I find that weird because they’re hard as nails. Bullet-time, puffshroom arrows, and using a 40+ weapon on their hind legs works for me. I haven't taken on the silver ones tho
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Jun 19, 2023 21:23
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BigglesSWE posted:Man I just can’t find a way to kill these Lynel motherfuckers. Any particular reason they don’t have a big healthbar like other big baddies? I find that weird because they’re hard as nails. Grayshift posted:Build yourself a weapon exclusively for killing lynels: This is my method. Takes a bit more setup but loving destroying a silver lynel in 5 seconds feels very rad.
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Jun 19, 2023 21:31
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Zarlog posted:Bullet-time, puffshroom arrows, and using a 40+ weapon on their hind legs works for me. I haven't taken on the silver ones tho This. My first lynel encounter was the arena, so I had to pull out every cheap trick. Used a lot of bomb arrows too.
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Jun 19, 2023 21:41
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CainFortea posted:https://www.reddit.com/r/tearsofthekingdom/comments/13uqo9h/everything_you_need_to_know_about_nondecayed/ Quoting so I can find it later
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Jun 19, 2023 21:44
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MAN i just did the quest unlocking the lightning temple and it was fun as gently caress just some real good rear end zelda right there
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Jun 19, 2023 21:50
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dodgeblan posted:MAN i just did the quest unlocking the lightning temple and it was fun as gently caress I really gotta get back to that
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Jun 19, 2023 21:59
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Just finished all the shrines and lightroots, am done with all the side quests that interested me, and all I have left to do is defeat Ganon. Probably over 160 hours of time invested by now. Love the hell out of this game, and I hope it will stick the landing (which I'll probably finish later today, but I just feel so stoked from getting all the shrines)
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Jun 19, 2023 22:02
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Man, I forgot how tough some of the proving ground shrines can be when you're coming that them with just a few hearts instead of later in the game. They're mostly fun, but there's one particular tank of a flamethrower bot that's ended me a good ten times in a row. That's way more successful than anything Ganon's ever done!
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Jun 19, 2023 22:06
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Heroic Yoshimitsu posted:I don't quite understand this... so what if people want to talk about the timeline? So what if people want to speculate about the games fit, even if they're not supposed to? Why is that such a crime? Bleck posted:Telling other posters what to post about makes them feel like a big tough where in the world did I tell anyone what to post about? Yes, I did that when I first created the megathread like 15 years ago but I'm WELL past that. I'm literally contributing to the timeline discussion by stating my opinion on it. I was actually pretty taken aback by TotK creating a wholly new Ganondorf because despite my protestations, I do like that there's this vague amorphous timeline to the series. But I do think the games work best without trying to fit into other games. I apologize if my choice of words came off harsh or judgmental.
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Jun 19, 2023 22:06
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I’m seeing a bunch of people streaming play throughs of Wind Waker, maybe I should take that up after I get sick of TOTK. The aesthetic and floppy animation are great
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Jun 19, 2023 22:13
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Wind Waker is a good as hell game and a good as hell randomizer when you want to revisit, the number of chests out in the open sea means the item pool is spread pretty wide instead of deep. it really forces you to fully explore the open sea, more like BOTW, instead of beelining toward the next major destination/dungeon
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Jun 19, 2023 22:17
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:The Shiekah all still live in Kakariko, obviously, and the Guardians were all a problem, but Zelda's interference has made things play out a different way. We're (probably) never going to know for sure, this just makes sense to me to explain what the game presents. No it’s pretty clearly a closed loop kind of time travel story. Zelda always helped seal Ganondorf, Zelda-dragon has always been above the cloud barrier recharging the master sword, etc.
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Jun 19, 2023 22:19
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It just gets tiring when people are all like "uhm it's the legend of zelda so all the plots don't matter," there shouldn't really be definitive statements one way or the other.
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Jun 19, 2023 22:20
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it's actually the leg end of zelda. link's going through all of this in the hope of feet pics
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Jun 19, 2023 22:28
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Phenotype posted:Where can I go to grab a handful of decent base weapons real quick? Hinoxs also wear 3 scaled weapons along their belts/necklaces. They're not as good as the depth weapons ,but you get 3 of them at a time with random bonuses and you can even just grab them and run away if you climb on them while they are asleep (coward's way).
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Jun 19, 2023 22:28
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The only date I'd care to see between Link and Zelda is sometime after BotW where they have a picnic on top of the Light Dragon together.
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Jun 19, 2023 22:29
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RatHat posted:No it’s pretty clearly a closed loop kind of time travel story. Zelda always helped seal Ganondorf, Zelda-dragon has always been above the cloud barrier recharging the master sword, etc. I finished the game early this morning (fantastic game btw) and this was kind of my read on the events. They sealed Ganondorf, the dude, and the combination of his constant gloom malding plus no one ever actually ever going down into the Hyrule Castle sub-basement to probably try to take care of that made Calamity Ganon. Technically there were probably two Master Swords in Hyrule during BOTW, but Zelda was too busy being a dragon just flying around aimlessly and crying occasionally so everything Imprisoning War related wouldn't come up until TotK's events.
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Jun 19, 2023 22:31
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BigglesSWE posted:Man I just can’t find a way to kill these Lynel motherfuckers. Any particular reason they don’t have a big healthbar like other big baddies? I find that weird because they’re hard as nails. 3 shot bow, 5 mighty bananas meal, bomb flowers to take down the armor, gibdo bones to seal the deal. You can do it in 2-3 bullet times. I also killed Ganondorf by pumping him full of gibdo bones
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Jun 19, 2023 22:32
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but why doesn't the deku tree sense the 2nd master sword until totk
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Jun 19, 2023 22:34
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RatHat posted:No it’s pretty clearly a closed loop kind of time travel story. Zelda always helped seal Ganondorf, Zelda-dragon has always been above the cloud barrier recharging the master sword, etc. It's a closed loop now. It began at the beginning of TotK. Augus posted:the actual confusing part is what calamity ganon is supposed to be mycot posted:Calamity Ganon and TOTK Ganondorf are basically two different interpretations of the Ganon concept but the fact that they coexist and have no relation to each other feels very strange. It's all Ganondorf. They're all the same guy. It shakes out differently, as well as all the differences between TotK and BotW, based on whether or not they're in the closed loop. Whatever other game you feel would make more sense in the loop or outside of it, do that. Like Shiggy said, it doesn't really matter, time in Hyrule is kinda broken and if you're having fun, you're having fun.
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Jun 19, 2023 22:34
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d0grent posted:but why doesn't the deku tree sense the 2nd master sword until totk Dragon Zelda was too high in the sky, he can't sense that
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Jun 19, 2023 22:35
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d0grent posted:but why doesn't the deku tree sense the 2nd master sword until totk cloud barrier 
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Jun 19, 2023 22:36
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d0grent posted:but why doesn't the deku tree sense the 2nd master sword until totk Who says he didn't? Why bother telling Link when there's a perfectly good one right here in the dirt?
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Jun 19, 2023 22:40
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d0grent posted:but why doesn't the deku tree sense the 2nd master sword until totk He knows it's not time yet to mention the other sword so he doesn't cause Deku tree is a bro.
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Jun 19, 2023 22:40
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d0grent posted:but why doesn't the deku tree sense the 2nd master sword until totk The tree does know but doesn't need to tell you.
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Jun 19, 2023 22:41
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At this point I think I'm resigned to really not trying to engage much beyond the surface of a Zelda plot, because it's clear even without having finished TotK yet that Nintendo has internal mandates to keep the plot razor-thin even if the slightest explanation of what's in the margins could add so much more. I have so many questions from what I've seen that I know will never get answered or addressed, there's no point in asking.
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Jun 19, 2023 22:44
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:It's a closed loop now. It began at the beginning of TotK.
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Jun 19, 2023 22:45
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CAPT. Rainbowbeard posted:It's a closed loop now. It began at the beginning of TotK. That’s not how closed loops work
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Jun 19, 2023 22:45
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how come dragons can fly forever and don't need to chill for one second even for a tasty snack + nap
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Manoueverable posted:At this point I think I'm resigned to really not trying to engage much beyond the surface of a Zelda plot, because it's clear even without having finished TotK yet that Nintendo has internal mandates to keep the plot razor-thin even if the slightest explanation of what's in the margins could add so much more. I have so many questions from what I've seen that I know will never get answered or addressed, there's no point in asking. yeah it’s totally a mandate and has nothing to do with the fact that story has never been the main priority for these games at all ever
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Jun 19, 2023 22:51
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