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I'm above 600 starlight after getting E8 Serval today. Any consensus as to which starlight Light Cones are really worth it? I'm tempted to get Gepard's for Fireblazer. Of course, I could also buy pulls and hope to proc Silver Wolf, since I'm in a guarantee. But the question remains!
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Xalidur posted:I'm above 600 starlight after getting E8 Serval today. Any consensus as to which starlight Light Cones are really worth it? I'm tempted to get Gepard's for Fireblazer.
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Jun 19, 2023 22:52
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JT Jag posted:Gepard's is great for both Gepard and Fireblazer, Bailu's is great for healers, Bronya's is loving disgusting but *only* for Bronya I've got Bailu's already, on Bailu! And I do have Bronya, she's using the Forgotten Hall one. Fireblazer has Landau's Choice.
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JT Jag posted:While trying to get new celestial relics for Jing Yun, instead I ended up getting a literally perfect, flawless relic It says 'the wearer's Ultimate and follow-up damage', though? Like, that sounds fine for Seele? Smugposting my own Quantum Salsotto sphere: 
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people were sold on the idea of Jing Yuan as OMG SO OP THE MOST DESTRUCTIVE CHARACTER EVER HE WILL CARRY YOU and he's 'just' the second best dedicated dps character in the game so its no surprise some people are whining the solution is to take all pre-release metaanalysis with a grain of salt
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Endorph posted:people were sold on the idea of Jing Yuan as OMG SO OP THE MOST DESTRUCTIVE CHARACTER EVER HE WILL CARRY YOU and he's 'just' the second best dedicated dps character in the game so its no surprise some people are whining
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The solution is to ignore all Hoyoverse content creators on YouTube because they flip a coin that has "BROKEN???" on one side and "TERRIBLE???" on the other so they know what to slot into their thumbnail and rant about for their next video.
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There is also a profound difference between budget accounts and whales when it comes to any character. It is easy to use a decently geared trial character or support character in a situation that is optimally suited for their skills and think they own, and then get them and they are underwhelming because you have a subpar 4* LC and garbage relics. I wish I had Seele when I use one from my friends list that is E4 with a S5 5* LC, but if I had her I am sure her damage would be much more inline with the rest of my people.
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as someone who has her at E0 with her un-superimposed 5-star LC, she's still quite good!
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I have her at E0 using a S1 Herta LC, she really is just bonkers damage still.
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Bussamove posted:I have her at E0 using a S1 Herta LC, she really is just bonkers damage still. Yup, that's me too.
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Seele is a solid 25% higher single target damage than anything else in the game right now, and she's still really good for multitarget. Her kit is so incredibly overtuned it's loving bonkers.
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One of my favorite teams I'm running right now is crowd control. Welt, March, Silver Wolf and I just slotted in Jing Yuan. Took them through 3-2 to smack Gepard around and it felt good. Also Welt and March are really the core of it. It works great with Asta and Sushang slotted in. It's a little skill hungry and Jing kind of makes Break Effect SW a little useless, but it's a ton of fun not letting the enemy do anything. Xalidur posted:I'm above 600 starlight after getting E8 Serval today. Any consensus as to which starlight Light Cones are really worth it? I'm tempted to get Gepard's for Fireblazer. Welt's is great for any Nihility character except Silver Wolf. It's still great on her, but the 4* from the event is better for her personally.
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It helps that many of the multitarget fights are "one huge boss plus a bunch of weak adds", which is a pattern that Seele really takes advantage of.
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Same here. Seele is on another planet compared to all my other characters.
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Best part about Silver Wolf is that she makes Seele optimal everywhere.
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JT Jag posted:Gepard's is great for both Gepard and Fireblazer, Bailu's is great for healers, Bronya's is loving disgusting but *only* for Bronya S3 Bronya LC gives Asta the energy regen she needs to reliably Ult every 2 turns, ie: give the party a permanent +50 speed. Clarste fucked around with this message at 00:51 on Jun 20, 2023 |
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She can also do this with a 3* LC but this feels bad.
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Walla posted:What upcoming units are people looking forward to? I'm really hoping to pull Luocha because then I can build a team with SW, Welt and Quinque and feel good about it. Lynx and Fu Xuan so I can do my mono quantum team. Just giving zero fucks about the weaknesses of any content.
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It's probably unlikely but one thing I'm hoping for is the meta moving away from taking one busted character and building a hypercarry team around them because I really like how support/debuff chars are designed in this game. SW is a really loving cool comp enabling unit and her weakness mechanic can really make you think about which elements to bring vs an enemy's weaknesses to minimize/eliminate the RNG factor.
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I skipped Seele. So actually, she sucks. Hth.
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seele sw and bronya are a power throuple and that's story spoilers
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Seele's ult made my eyes and head hurt a lot, which is the genuinely bad thing about the character:(
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Carew posted:It's probably unlikely but one thing I'm hoping for is the meta moving away from taking one busted character and building a hypercarry team around them because I really like how support/debuff chars are designed in this game. SW is a really loving cool comp enabling unit and her weakness mechanic can really make you think about which elements to bring vs an enemy's weaknesses to minimize/eliminate the RNG factor. This is really weird because hypercarry teams are literally where support and debuff characters are at their best, it's "DPS characters that aren't the literal best option" that get pushed out.
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is this experiment event really just submitting some recipe mat for some rewards each day? A bit of a letdown after the full on museum event, but I take any free stuff they hand me i guess
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The break effect artifact set is good for SW right? I recently got some 5*s from that set with exceptionally good substats (haven't leveled them yet, though; artifact XP is a pain).
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Tatsuta Age posted:seele sw and bronya are a power throuple and that's story spoilers confirmed
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Ytlaya posted:The break effect artifact set is good for SW right? I recently got some 5*s from that set with exceptionally good substats (haven't leveled them yet, though; artifact XP is a pain). Yeah. Quantum has the best break status ailment, and it's relatively easy for SW to break everything because she can make them weak against her.
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Jabor posted:This is really weird because hypercarry teams are literally where support and debuff characters are at their best, it's "DPS characters that aren't the literal best option" that get pushed out. I was also thinking that. Pretty much every support character in this game except maybe Pela is considered top tier if not mandatory, while Hunt, Erudition, and Destruction characters who aren't the best have quickly filtered to the bottom. Sampo occupies a weird position, I guess.
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Pela is 100% a top tier support unit. With Resolution/Incessant rain, her autos generate as much energy as everyone else's skills. Pela can very reliably mainstain her def shred with 100% uptime. Pairing her with silverwolf gives a very easy 100% def shred to kill enemies. Debuff shredding is very useful against certain enemies too, especially in MoC.
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Jabor posted:This is really weird because hypercarry teams are literally where support and debuff characters are at their best, it's "DPS characters that aren't the literal best option" that get pushed out. I mean I'd like see more teams that aren't just one top DPS being juiced up by supports. Maybe a team with 2 DPS or strong teams built around dots, breaking, or cc.
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Carew posted:I mean I'd like see more teams that aren't just one top DPS being juiced up by supports. Maybe a team with 2 DPS or strong teams built around dots, breaking, or cc. Teams built around breaking or CC are also built around hypercarries, because breaking and CC are support effects done by supports who are also juicing up your carry. Dots are just another form of damage, and you can bet a team built around them will want to juice up the main applier. As for multiple DPS, the next Harmony character (Yukong) does somewhat encourage this since she gives a massive ATK buff to the next two people to act, but doesn't have any way of ensuring who those people will be. So theoretically at least, she would work best in a team with multiple damage characters so those buffs won't go wasted. Unfortunately that does nothing to address the actual issue though, which is that dps characters are way too skill point hungry to have too many of them on a team. And Yukong herself would also be skill point hungry if she's going to be spamming that buff. Clarste fucked around with this message at 02:22 on Jun 20, 2023 |
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