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Fister Roboto posted:Yeah that's Colorado Springs. I thought CHUDs liked to bring up the Club Q shooting to accuse people opposed to their Islamophobia as hating gays. See, they have no problem with gay people, and want to protect them by deporting everyone from the Middle East.
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Air Skwirl posted:I thought CHUDs liked to bring up the Club Q shooting to accuse people opposed to their Islamophobia as hating gays. See, they have no problem with gay people, and want to protect them by deporting everyone from the Middle East. No that was the Pulse shooting. Club Q was last November and the reaction from the right was even worse than that, believe it or not.
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gently caress, I got my mass murdering hate crimes mixed up. Awesome that enough of those happen that I can get confused.
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Fister Roboto posted:No that was the Pulse shooting. Club Q was last November and the reaction from the right was even worse than that, believe it or not. Is that the one where the shooter claimed to be NB as a very obvious gotcha?
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Jun 20, 2023 02:59
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Air Skwirl posted:I refuse to believe there are any actual Ls, Gs, or Bs in the LGB alliance, and if there are they are quislings and should be treated as such. The desire to be seen as “one of the good ones” can be powerful.
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Henchman of Santa posted:Is that the one where the shooter claimed to be NB as a very obvious gotcha? Yeah. It was extremely transparent, nobody fell for it, and it was immediately dropped when he realized he was still in deep poo poo.
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"Gay, not queer" doesn't make any sense. From what I understand, anything that isn't straight/hetero falls under the "queer" umbrella. So gay is technically queer, right? Air Skwirl posted:I refuse to believe there are any actual Ls, Gs, or Bs in the LGB alliance, and if there are they are quislings and should be treated as such. The founders of Gays Against Groomers were a lesbian woman and a gay man both known for palling around with fascists. Obviously these movements are going to attract far more straight cis people though. Fister Roboto posted:Yeah. It was extremely transparent, nobody fell for it, and it was immediately dropped when he realized he was still in deep poo poo. Club Q shooter still gets lumped in with a few others as they push the "trans people are violent mentally unstable murderers" narrative, as authorities never released the "Transifesto" that the trans man supposedly wrote before shooting up a school.
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Panfilo posted:"Gay, not queer" doesn't make any sense. From what I understand, anything that isn't straight/hetero falls under the "queer" umbrella. So gay is technically queer, right? Some people are really particular about words like "queer." For some it's always a slur, for others it's simply an umbrella term that they've reclaimed. I like the word personally but I know other people who find it deeply triggering. In either case, that guy seems like an rear end in a top hat
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Bargearse posted:The desire to be seen as “one of the good ones” can be powerful. Yeah, it sure seems like a fair amount of gay people are strategically throwing trans people to the wolves to make straight fascists like them and think of them as "the good ones." And they're going to be absolutely shocked when those same wolves turn on them after they've finished off the trans people.
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"gay not queer" sounds like "into dudes, but I don't act like a [slur here]"
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They still think of "queer" as "weird" and they're normal, very normal,
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Kit Walker posted:Some people are really particular about words like "queer." For some it's always a slur, for others it's simply an umbrella term that they've reclaimed. I like the word personally but I know other people who find it deeply triggering. In either case, that guy seems like an rear end in a top hat It’s often a generational thing, it was reclaimed in the early 2000s and folks who came of age before that are more likely to think of it as a slur.
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Heath posted:"gay not queer" sounds like "into dudes, but I don't act like a [slur here]" That’s totally how I’m reading his comment, Like gay but not flaming super obvious gay maybe? Or when it’s convenient
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Panfilo posted:"Gay, not queer" doesn't make any sense. From what I understand, anything that isn't straight/hetero falls under the "queer" umbrella. So gay is technically queer, right? If going by queer theory, queer is an identity that rejects norms and mores. "<any other part of lgbtq+> but not queer" can make sense. It can be bad, like ladder pullers and folks sure the 'good ones' like themselves won't be targeted. It can also be someone who doesn't identify as othered whether because they pass or they live somewhere that doesn't discriminate against them. A non-queer lgbt person doesn't have to be antisolidarity. They could still advocate for lqbtq+ rights and be part of the community or realize that it's very easy for movements that erode rights to make their way to them, even if they're not a current target.
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Kantesu posted:The pirate kid spends all his time toppling tyrants. Like, the entire run of the series. One Piece owns Also his dad is based on Fidel Castro. They do help a lot of princesses but nobody's perfect
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Henchman of Santa posted:https://twitter.com/bendreyfuss/status/1670966853034999808?t=Xr0WXr60Rqng8pUopa9cOQ&s=19 As someone said on this site once, you couldn’t waterboard that information out of me
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I will try to make the Black Clover explanation as painless as possible: Anime is about a generic plucky idiot who wants to be The Very Best Like No One Ever Was in a fantasy kingdom where everyone has some degree of magical power except him. He’s looked down upon by the haughty magical nobility, but gets on a magic knight squad, wins most of them over, and fights against whatever the baddy of the story arc is. Demons, vengeful dead elves, invasions from other magic kingdoms, whatever. According to a wiki, the new movie’s antagonist also wants to level the playing field between people with high and low magic power, but also wants to do that by blowing up the kingdom, to avenge his love who was killed for a reason not readily apparent to me. Probably a powerful wizard who considered her beneath them. And there you go, that’s the communist revolutionary Tim Pool was epically owning us about.
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I can't bring myself to feel sad when a billionaire dies, especially when they die of their own stupidity. Money can't save you from Darwinism, clearly.
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Dr Christmas posted:I will try to make the Black Clover explanation as painless as possible: Ah, of course, the 'sidestep any question of the villain having a point by making them actually just lashing out about a personal tragedy' trick. A classic way to make the story seem like it has a sympathetic and nuanced villain while never actually having to confront any points they might raise. Good to see western superhero media doesn't have a monopoly on this right now!
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Cleretic posted:Ah, of course, the 'sidestep any question of the villain having a point by making them actually just lashing out about a personal tragedy' trick. A classic way to make the story seem like it has a sympathetic and nuanced villain while never actually having to confront any points they might raise. That's part of why I like the story of the game Blue Dragon so much, the villain's plot is relating to him trying to restore the world to the way it was when his people ran it hundreds of years ago, and he completely succeeds, although is defeated so that he can't be in charge of it because he's a piece of poo poo, and everyone just has to deal with how the world has irreversibly changed. He wanted to change the status quo, he did, and everyone who survived the turbulence is shown thriving in the new world as everyone can now use magic due to how the world has been changed.
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...! posted:Yeah, it sure seems like a fair amount of gay people are strategically throwing trans people to the wolves to make straight fascists like them and think of them as "the good ones." And they're going to be absolutely shocked when those same wolves turn on them after they've finished off the trans people. Yeah this pretty much. Nobody is immune to gently caress You Got Mine boomerism but it’s particularly disappointing from people who really should know better. I’m reminded of a post by an Asian-American goon whose family voted straight-ticket Republican every time while she voted Democrat. To roughly paraphrase she said something like “I’m keenly aware that my honorary white status can be revoked at any time”
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...! posted:I can't bring myself to feel sad when a billionaire dies, especially when they die of their own stupidity. Money can't save you from Darwinism, clearly. There is no possible way any billionaire got to where they are without being truly, deeply, reprehensible pieces of poo poo, and hoping and cheering for their deaths is always morally correct and good.
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teen witch posted:As someone said on this site once, you couldn’t waterboard that information out of me I mean, it's basically just playing paintball.
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Bargearse posted:Yeah this pretty much. Nobody is immune to gently caress You Got Mine boomerism but it’s particularly disappointing from people who really should know better. It was pretty hosed up seeing black and hispanic people speaking against gay marriage (and lgbt rights in general) in California using the same words that were used to speak against desegregation and interracial marriage. Even from people who lived through that era!
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Schubalts posted:It was pretty hosed up seeing black and hispanic people speaking against gay marriage (and lgbt rights in general) in California using the same words that were used to speak against desegregation and interracial marriage. Even from people who lived through that era! Pretty much all prejudice is used to divide and conquer, the modern idea of racism was literally invented about 500 years ago to justify colonialism where the upper class got fantastically rich off exploiting the poor both in the colonies and at home, and didn't want them realising they had a common enemy.
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I'll be real, I find any form of, 'This person doesn't share my values, and so they aren't really LGBTQ+!' to be, I don't know, really hosed up. Like, it's not a special club or a reward for having the right politics, and I see people using it that way all the time.
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Schubalts posted:It was pretty hosed up seeing black and hispanic people speaking against gay marriage (and lgbt rights in general) in California using the same words that were used to speak against desegregation and interracial marriage. Even from people who lived through that era! It's pretty hosed up to assume that a skin tone or language should automatically make someone have the correct opinions on a given issue, in my eyes drat why did the Rio Grande Valley swing hard for Trump, years on the world does not know
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Have some people insisting pool additives that show when people pee in the pool are 100% real and mixing up movies and urban legends they heard with actual memories  this was from a reel from a content creator pranking a friend in his pool
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GreenMetalSun posted:I'll be real, I find any form of, 'This person doesn't share my values, and so they aren't really LGBTQ+!' to be, I don't know, really hosed up. Sure, that’s true, but we do have this awkward rhetorical phenomena where being LGBT counts as being an authority on all things LGBT to some people. So you’ll have people going “I’m a gay man and we’re sick of society coddling these groomers” and it’s hard to respond to that in a few words because of how many layers of bullshit that single sentence has. I can’t really fault someone too much for just saying, “gently caress you, you’re not really LGBT if you say poo poo like that, so don’t pretend you can speak for us”
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Henchman of Santa posted:https://twitter.com/bendreyfuss/status/1670966853034999808?t=Xr0WXr60Rqng8pUopa9cOQ&s=19 I hate that guys like this exist and remind me that no sociopathic nepobaby character can ever be written in fiction that's faithful to the reality of these dipshits without sounding utterly farfetched and nonsensical.
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Literally any oppressed person can be just as oppressive and lovely to another person. Call it pulling the ladder up, punching down, whatever, but to say someone isn’t a real X because they believe Y is…actually kinda bigoted! Everyone has the capacity to be a hateful hypocrite. Once again, cis white hetero Christian men do not own being hateful, eeeeeven if they certainly loving act like it. Now, you’re totally within your right to say for example “wow, gently caress log cabin republicans!” for the specific reason of being log cabin republicans - totally justifiable and frankly encouraged. They aren’t less gay for shooting themselves in every loving foot in a mile radius. But they are loving assholes.
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I mean we saw how much hay the GOP made out of Biden saying "you ain't black"
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Panfilo posted:Similarly, the closest Sam Seder got to debating Steven Crowder was to basically trick him which in response Stephen pretty much just cowered under his desk out of sight to avoid engaging him. So you'll notice the people on the right are never accountable for any of this, no they are far too "busy" to go on other people's podcasts or shows and engage. The Steven Crowder Sam Seder ambush has to be seen to be believed. They really had to work to set it up, too, Sam Seder had to prerecord a show to broadcast, because Crowder won't debate anyone unless he's sure Sam Seder is too busy to do this exact thing. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fvg5RTrFLfI&t=524s Fun fact: Four days after this, Crowder melted down so hard that his wife finally began proceedings for divorce.
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credburn posted:... is "you should touch grass" a phrase people use?? No, most people say "touch grass", and the "you should" part is very fellow kids on his part
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