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Something tells me using a controller that was made 18 years ago is not the most forward looking approach to sub controls. Like why not use a modern Xbox controller that was made in the 10s of millions instead of an off brand mad catz controller.
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The red flag for me is that the pressure-vessel part of the thing that holds air and people is a cylinder instead of a sphere. Yeah Navy submarines are big cylinders but they can't go below 2000 feet or so.
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Jun 20, 2023 17:21
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If we take the owner's word, they do bring spare controllers with them on dives. Logitech makes, and has for decades, very good quality peripherals. The speakers at the front of the sub under the floor are for privacy when someone's using the chem toilet.
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Jun 20, 2023 17:26
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Wombot posted:If we take the owner's word, they do bring spare controllers with them on dives. ridiculous waste of space and weight when they could just give the shitter earbuds
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Jun 20, 2023 17:28
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Sagebrush posted:Malaysia Airlines 370 was a 650,000 pound airliner and after ten years and like a billion dollars in searching with the most advanced technology available we still have no clue where it even hit the water ~ L O S T ~
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Jun 20, 2023 17:30
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Video game controllers have undergone testing in the tens of millions of dollars, have millions of man-hours of use and feedback, and are probably more durable and functional than any bespoke solution you could make for controls. There's plenty here to mock, but using a game controller isn't that dumb.
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Jun 20, 2023 17:34
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I would simply use a keyboard and mouse.
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Jun 20, 2023 17:35
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hawowanlawow posted:ridiculous waste of space and weight when they could just give the shitter earbuds Oh yeah, also on the list of absurd things: the toilet.  It's the little black box on the left. Paying a quarter of a million dollars to poo poo in a jewelry box. Also, now noticing how the crappy foam pad isn't flush with the buttom of the compartment. Just amazing Tesla-tier build quality.
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Jun 20, 2023 17:37
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FuturePastNow posted:The red flag for me is that the pressure-vessel part of the thing that holds air and people is a cylinder instead of a sphere. Yeah Navy submarines are big cylinders but they can't go below 2000 feet or so. yea but common wisdom is full of reasons why something can't be done and shouldn't be tried, because someone died trying 50 years ago and proved it was impossible or infeasible cargo cult innovation is there to try and achieve the impossible by mindless brute force, and/or scam a lot of money out of clueless investors
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Tunicate posted:I would simply use a keyboard and mouse. Snapping off a sick noscope on some scrub-rear end tube worm
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Skippy McPants posted:Oh yeah, also on the list of absurd things: the toilet. Looks like a normal camping poop bucket with a foam top to me. I hope it goes out, but I assume it doesn't. I gotta assume that cabin reeks.
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Jun 20, 2023 17:47
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Glory to Italia!
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GD_American posted:Video game controllers have undergone testing in the tens of millions of dollars, have millions of man-hours of use and feedback, and are probably more durable and functional than any bespoke solution you could make for controls. Using a lovely third party controller designed explicitly for little brothers is the dumb part.
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Jun 20, 2023 17:49
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The armchair analysis is stunning, truly great work. It's a non-standard shape pressure vessel (ie, not a sphere) using non-standard materials (carbon fiber) that are known for being susceptible to breakdown due to frequent pressure cycling. The form factor and brand of controller doesn't play into this - so many industrial and scientific vehicles use a standard gamepad for controls because it's intuitive and the economics are well-understood. In a DSV built of bad ideas and ✨ disruption ✨ using a gamepad is maybe the most orthodox choice they made.
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Jun 20, 2023 17:50
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Skippy McPants posted:Oh yeah, also on the list of absurd things: the toilet. How does a sub cycle air? I only ask because that tube coming out of the toilet is to exhaust the poop air and I suddenly realize that it may be difficult to exhaust things 2 miles under the sea.
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Jun 20, 2023 17:51
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GD_American posted:Video game controllers have undergone testing in the tens of millions of dollars, have millions of man-hours of use and feedback, and are probably more durable and functional than any bespoke solution you could make for controls. have you ever even used one of those logitech gamepads? or ever used the logitech software that's buggy as all gently caress? LOL
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Jun 20, 2023 17:52
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Its like a campervan toilet. You don't poop in it. Save pups for the Walmart and only peepee in there.
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Jun 20, 2023 17:53
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nomad2020 posted:How does a sub cycle air? I only ask because that tube coming out of the toilet is to exhaust the poop air and I suddenly realize that it may be difficult to exhaust things 2 miles under the sea. No, I think the tube is for pee. Like, you put yer dingus in the tube and pee. Or you put the opening up to yer lady space to pee. Or like, you use the tube, to void urine from you urine place, regardless of gender, because it's just a social construct and has no bearing on pee. The Bananana fucked around with this message at 17:56 on Jun 20, 2023 |
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Jun 20, 2023 17:54
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Push El Burrito posted:Cut the bottom out of that outhouse and poo poo into the void. OSHA IV: poo poo into the void
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The Bananana posted:No, I think the tube is for pee. Oh, that makes sense. Some old airplanes have something like that except Push El Burrito posted:Cut the bottom out of that outhouse and poo poo into the void. it just drains out a hole in the back.
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Jun 20, 2023 17:57
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LifeSunDeath posted:have you ever even used one of those logitech gamepads?
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Jun 20, 2023 17:59
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Using a game controller is fine. Using a knockoff wireless one from 2005 that's notoriously unreliable really isn't.
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zedprime posted:Would you prefer them to disrupt the industry by ordering a bunch of knob ends they wire together themselves from ali express? I'm just glad they extruded the billionaire industry a little.
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Jun 20, 2023 18:01
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ILL Machina posted:Looks like a normal camping poop bucket with a foam top to me. I hope it goes out, but I assume it doesn't. In order to pump to the outside of the submarine at the Titanic's depth, the toilet would have to pressurize the waste to over 6,000 PSI.
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Kafouille posted:Using a game controller is fine. Using a knockoff wireless one from 2005 that's notoriously unreliable really isn't. I agree. They should have used a thrustmaster warthog
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Kafouille posted:Using a game controller is fine. Using a knockoff wireless one from 2005 that's notoriously unreliable really isn't. Yeah even with spares you want something as reliable as it can be while in use. See a piece of waste net or unexpected piece of debris near the craft, go to reverse engines but the controller glitches. Oh no now you're caught up or whatever and doomed.
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Sagebrush posted:In order to pump to the outside of the submarine at the Titanic's depth, the toilet would have to pressurize the waste to over 6,000 PSI. Instead I found this on Quora. 
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It's really not surprising that people bike-shed their way into talking about the game controller because people understand those and can grok that the lovely third party peripheral is a poor choice. Many people have experienced terrible peripherals when the first-party controller was superior. Not everyone is going to be able to understand the pressures being wrought on the vessel, what the stresses are, whether the choice of material played into it, etc. Those are matters beyond most people's understanding. But little bro's controller he got for Christmas when he specifically asked for the first party make, because grandma tried to save $15 on the gift? The one that conks out at a critical jump and is the source of a lot of swearing? That's a level of questionable we can get behind.
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I've never really had the third party woes this thread has. Instead I'm more thinking that if you're getting little bro controllers from 2005 you should at least get the one with a fan in the handle.
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Big rear end On Fire posted:Yeah even with spares you want something as reliable as it can be while in use. See a piece of waste net or unexpected piece of debris near the craft, go to reverse engines but the controller glitches. Oh no now you're caught up or whatever and doomed.  But you know what, the controller is whatever. Is that monitor screwed directly into the carbon fiber pressure vessel? I'm not an expert on composites but maybe that's not a great thing.
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What gets me is that you're paying for such a lovely experience. Like, there's one window in that thing and it's in front of the toilet, there are no seats so you're all sitting criss cross applesauce on the goddamn floor in the dark looking at the titanic wreck on a monitor and I can do that at home without much risk of drowning or being crushed. I'm sure more portholes would've completely hosed whatever structural integrity that thing has, but I still feel like you should do a lot better than that if you're asking a quarter mil. EDIT: Ok based on the above picture it's fairly well lit and it should actually be darker to set the mood better.
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kw0134 posted:It's really not surprising that people bike-shed their way into talking about the game controller because people understand those and can grok that the lovely third party peripheral is a poor choice. Many people have experienced terrible peripherals when the first-party controller was superior. Not everyone is going to be able to understand the pressures being wrought on the vessel, what the stresses are, whether the choice of material played into it, etc. Those are matters beyond most people's understanding. It's also that I have absolutely none of the background or skills I'd need to evaluate their carbon fibre work or communications system or whatever. The gamepad is the one thing I do feel qualified to have an opinion on, and they have obviously chosen to sacrifice quality to save an overall tiny bit of money. It may not mean anything, but it's not a great sign either.
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mobby_6kl posted:But you know what, the controller is whatever. Is that monitor screwed directly into the carbon fiber pressure vessel? I'm not an expert on composites but maybe that's not a great thing. If you look at the picture I posted above, you can see they've got a cylindrical crew compartment that's seated inside the pressure hull. The screens are anchored to that.
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zedprime posted:I wanted to check what PSI a human bladder could do since they are a positive displacement pump which tend to scale to high pressure very well. Just in case I could also disrupt the industry with a sick check valve that would let you pee on the titanic. wow pissing contest settled
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History Comes Inside! posted:Using a lovely third party controller designed explicitly for little brothers is the dumb part. Yes, but that's not the part people are responding to. People are responding to the idea that using a gamepad at all is dumb. Not the quality of the game pad.
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The Bananana posted:Ooh, here's a science question. At depth, what will the sub debris do? Sink or float? The general rule is that everything sinks, if given long enough. Positive or neutral buoyancy is a neat party trick, but the oceans are not generous or polite to anything they touch.
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Post poste posted:The general rule is that everything sinks, if given long enough. It was terrifying to learn that humans become negatively buoyant after about 30 feet down.
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Post poste posted:The general rule is that everything sinks, if given long enough. Heck, the oceans an even more bloodthirsty mistress than a helicopter
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For everyone complaining that we are nit picking the controller. On one of their previous dives that controller hosed up and started to go backwards when forwards was asked for. The CEOs solution was to turn the controller 90 degrees and pilot like that. So it was directly responsible for putting the sub in a dangerous situation.
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CainFortea posted:Yes, but that's not the part people are responding to. People are responding to the idea that using a gamepad at all is dumb. Not the quality of the game pad.
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mustard_tiger posted:For everyone complaining that we are nit picking the controller. On one of their previous dives that controller hosed up and started to go backwards when forwards was asked for. The CEOs solution was to turn the controller 90 degrees and pilot like that. So it was directly responsible for putting the sub in a dangerous situation. No. It started spinning when forward was asked for.
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