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ledge posted:I'm going to assume they meant theory, as in the theory of gravity, or theory of evolution. Yeah theory in that regard - and always good to get more published on it as unlike other more 'accepted' theories there are plenty of people out there that would still argue otherwise.
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I always wondered about provisions - fish sure, but fresh water is a much bigger issue and takes up a lot of space
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Wafflecopper posted:
It's one of those super interesting things and I'm always taken aback by the lack of intellectual curiosity by some people who just say something like "who fucken cares dumb maoris" or whatever. How can you not read about something like that and wonder how they did this or that and what it was like. I've been lucky enough to go to a couple of other pacific islands and something I liked was trying to figure out which words were the same in the other languages, which were similar but said differently, and which were completely not related.
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The Bolivian Quechua name for sweet potato is kumara.
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Wondering how long until TOP's AI candidate turns out to be a 2023 version of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tay_(chatbot)
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The TOP model has the bigotry built in from the start
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i don’t like how the ministry of health deals with some things
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I know it's not a popular opinion here but the Greens seriously need to step away from identity politics and towards broad base social welfare and environmentalism. These things will disproportionality benefit maori/PI anyway. Watch TOP get 4% party vote because of Davidson  The tax policy was bold and I doubt lost them a single vote, hopefully gained a few. Certainly more meaningful policy than the nats are putting out. Culture wars are just free hits for the right. jpparker55 fucked around with this message at 07:57 on Jun 20, 2023 |
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who should I vote for back in 99 I voted for ACT to impress a girl. it didn’t work. now I vote to impress strangers on internet forums
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echinopsis posted:who should I vote for it's not working now either lmao
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I vote greens and probably always will, but if I thought TOP had an opportunity (hah) to get into power I would probably give them my vote. ACT can definitely go gently caress themselves.
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proper politics requires a balance of both sides. vote green/act
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top is a centre-right party
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exmarx posted:top is a centre-right party Centrilism is often tedious bullshit but "tedious bullshit" is also how I've been feeling about and would describe the Green party this cycle. They both effectively represent my views on the important things: Climate, Housing and better Tax/UBI system so I would vote for whichever one is actually closer to grabbing any real power.
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Xik posted:Centrilism is often tedious bullshit but "tedious bullshit" is also how I've been feeling about and would describe the Green party this cycle. They both effectively represent my views on the important things: Climate, Housing and better Tax/UBI system so I would vote for whichever one is actually closer to grabbing any real power. They can't both represent your views on housing. Raf Manji is just another NIMBY with his "Chch doesn't need the MDRS" bullshit.
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Taitale posted:They can't both represent your views on housing. Raf Manji is just another NIMBY with his "Chch doesn't need the MDRS" bullshit. Got a link or quote or something because that's like the exact opposite of their published party policy. e: Is the joke going to be that he doesn't think Christchurch is a "central city or transit node" so actually doesn't need to follow the MDRS lmao
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Manji said the city needs a strong voice in Wellington to advocate what works best for the city itself, citing issues such as the loss of the city’s polytechnic and Three Waters. “Whether you have a Labour MP, National MP, whatever, they’re not gonna be getting up and banging the table and saying, ‘Christchurch in the South Island, X, Y, and Z’, and I’m gonna be doing that. “And there are a whole bunch of issues here that people are seriously hacked off about - the MDRS (Medium Density Residential Standards) is one of them. “We don’t need it. People don’t know Ilam at all. You can already do development anywhere you like. We did all of this rezoning post-earthquakes. I chaired a finance and strategy committee, which oversaw the increase in land supply all the way out to Selwyn, and that’s why house prices in Christchurch have been very, very steady.”
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Xik posted:Got a link or quote or something because that's like the exact opposite of their published party policy. https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/polit...JBJA2AIAVJ5O4E/ Text is what exmarx posted.
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"He does not believe that position would hurt the party outside the city as he said the standards are useful in places like suburban Auckland where there are closed-down shops next to train stations." MDRS for thee, but not for me? smh
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i was trying to find out if they still had a repulsive immigration policy but it turns out they don't even have one anymore... for a party of technocrat losers there's sure very little detail in what few they have published lol https://www.top.org.nz/policy quote:A fair housing market #5 is the status quo; #1, #2 and #4 are pro-landlord (from memory, they fund the $3b for chps by not building public housing), and #3 is bad tax policy.
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jpparker55 posted:I know it's not a popular opinion here but the Greens seriously need to step away from identity politics and towards broad base social welfare and environmentalism. That "I joined the left for worker's rights and decent wages, not this loving weird-rear end poo poo" post was making the rounds on Twitter last week a fair bit.
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I really do think saying that Marama Davidson's correct and brave observations of who causes violence has lost the greens votes is just a fragile white mans just-so story to validate a tantrum and justify giving up his principles. Workers rights and women's rights are one and the same. There is no way in hell anyone can say with any authority that what Marama said had lost the greens voters. Its absurd to even pretend you could possibly know that.
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everyone's forgotten Marama Davidson's (accurate) statement about cis white men anyway
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klen dool posted:I really do think saying that Marama Davidson's correct and brave observations of who causes violence has lost the greens votes is just a fragile white mans just-so story to validate a tantrum and justify giving up his principles. Workers rights and women's rights are one and the same. There is no way in hell anyone can say with any authority that what Marama said had lost the greens voters. Its absurd to even pretend you could possibly know that. white men are garbage and mostly vote for national so thinking the greens lost votes over marama is peak idiot
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El Pollo Blanco posted:white men are garbage and mostly vote for national so thinking the greens lost votes over marama is peak idiot the racism is coming from inside the thread
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El Pollo Blanco posted:white men are garbage and mostly vote for national so thinking the greens lost votes over marama is peak idiot this isn't to claim you're wrong but has anyone got an accurate number on this tendency? I know most nat voters have gotta be white men but how many white men are nat voters, percentage wise?
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most green party voters are white and middle class, fairly even gender split
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bike tory posted:most green party voters are white and middle class, fairly even gender split This is why they'll never pivot away from identity politics
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imo the reason they won't pivot away from identity politics is because they're a values based party with a commitment to equity and Te Tiriti 
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Lol wtf is equality, that is a meaningless term The 1% who own our lives having demographic breakdown identical to the population at large = equality
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yes that's why the green party values equity, not equality
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"identity politics" is one of the foundational principles of the green party not just of new zealand but across the world. equity is not the same thing as equality.
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E: ^^identity politics, as it exists today, is a device used by capital to direct otherwise good and well meaning people into causes that safely funnel their energy away from class conflict + increase division among the working class so they don't get any funny ideas My bad, I don't read good, wtf is equity meant to mean in this context Slavvy fucked around with this message at 22:14 on Jun 20, 2023 |
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I tried to learn what "Identity Politics" means but all I've discovered so far is that it's another shorthand for "I'm racist". I agree with the most of what the greens are doing, we have to address race or other identity based issues if we want to have worker's rights and decent pay for everybody
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thank u Bomber
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bobbilljim posted:I tried to learn what "Identity Politics" means but all I've discovered so far is that it's another shorthand for "I'm racist". I agree with the most of what the greens are doing, we have to address race or other identity based issues if we want to have worker's rights and decent pay for everybody This is structurally impossible because capitalism creates inequality as a basic function of itself, you literally cannot address this stuff in a meaningful way because it isn't caused by people just magically being bigoted but whatever I'm wasting my energy with this poo poo
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Slavvy posted:E: ^^identity politics, as it exists today, is a device used by capital to direct otherwise good and well meaning people into causes that safely funnel their energy away from class conflict + increase division among the working class so they don't get any funny ideas This is true but is also a massive straw man of "identity politics" that's deployed by white leftists who don't like being told that their politics are blinkered.
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Slavvy posted:funnel their energy away from class conflict Slavvy posted:I'm wasting my energy with this poo poo
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Charles 2 of Spain posted:Your HP doesn't go down if you're not spending every waking moment thinking about capitalism. Yes it does  that's why the health bar is red
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