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Every time I’m about to start Cyberpunk there’s another game changing update on the horizon. For actual content, the character barks in Darkest Dungeon 2 add quite a lot to the game. I also love the idea of forcing two characters to drink so much whiskey they become best friends. moosecow333 has a new favorite as of 01:33 on Jun 21, 2023 |
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I tried out a demo of a game called Laika: Aged Through Blood, a metroidvania that combines Trials style motorcycle gameplay with horrifying furry violence. Early in the game you get a cassette player that lets you play whichever music you've unlocked whenever you're on your bike, which is always a feature I appreciate.
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Jun 21, 2023 02:02
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Rockman Reserve posted:god i would kill for SF6 wait where is Cyberpunk dirt cheap? i want it dirt cheap!
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Jun 21, 2023 02:30
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moosecow333 posted:Every time I’m about to start Cyberpunk there’s another game changing update on the horizon. A goon wrote most of them!
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Jun 21, 2023 02:31
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Sally posted:wait where is Cyberpunk dirt cheap? i want it dirt cheap! It's 50% off now
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Jun 21, 2023 02:31
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It's been worth full price for a while now too.
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Jun 21, 2023 03:33
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Its a fun game choom
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Jun 21, 2023 03:37
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So later on in the main quest of Tears of the Kingdom, you learn that all the sightings of Zelda around Hyrule were actually a puppet created by Ganondorf. Not terribly surprising, but still a fun reveal. What was a bit surprising to me was the change to the cinematic during blood moons. The voiceover to that cutscene felt a bit off to me right away compared to BotW, and once I clocked that the speaking Zelda was probably evil, it made sense that she no longer asked Link to be careful and instead seemed to be reveling in the world being dangerous again. But after defeating the puppet, that Zelda vanishes entirely from the cutscene. That quiet, empty version of the scene genuinely creeped me out when I saw it.
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Jun 21, 2023 03:57
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sebmojo posted:It's 50% off now oh... i have a very different idea of dirt cheap...
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Jun 21, 2023 04:11
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Sally posted:oh... Anything below 75% off is not a sale
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Jun 21, 2023 04:14
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One of a Kind posted:So later on in the main quest of Tears of the Kingdom, you learn that all the sightings of Zelda around Hyrule were actually a puppet created by Ganondorf. Not terribly surprising, but still a fun reveal. So because Nintendo are lazy story tellers You can find out that it isn't Zelda if you do the memories before the main plot. The game doesn't acknowledge that in any way though. She still appears in the blood moon cutscenes, everyone still goes "Zelda told me to do this absurd thing", and then my personal favorite is "Link you need to storm the castle and rescue Zelda". They made this giant game that you can hit the plot in whatever order you want and just half rear end how the game responds. This is from the end of a scene where you're told that there is a fifth sage and also you need the master sword. https://twitter.com/EvilBillMurray/status/1667275931180994560?t=Cqd2H0zO2rXM4rm4PizG0A&s=19 No dialogue changes during the scene up until the end when it adds these few lines.
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Jun 21, 2023 11:37
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"devs are lazy" devs made a gigantic loving videogame costing probably over a millennia of labor where you can do poo poo out of order and it does in fact generally recognize that you did this gently caress off with calling them lazy
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Jun 21, 2023 15:05
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:"devs are lazy" devs made a gigantic loving videogame costing probably over a millennia of labor where you can do poo poo out of order and it does in fact generally recognize that you did this gently caress off with calling them lazy Nice meltdown, John Nintendo
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Jun 21, 2023 15:07
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:"devs are lazy" devs made a gigantic loving videogame costing probably over a millennia of labor where you can do poo poo out of order and it does in fact generally recognize that you did this gently caress off with calling them lazy They put an incredible amount of effort into everything except the story telling yes
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Jun 21, 2023 15:14
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Sounds like Nintendo to me
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Jun 21, 2023 15:37
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Len posted:They put an incredible amount of effort into everything except the story telling yes There's not a lot you can do when you have to deal with a shitload of permutations for what the player potentially has and hasn't done at any given moment in the story.
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Jun 21, 2023 15:46
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:"devs are lazy" devs made a gigantic loving videogame costing probably over a millennia of labor where you can do poo poo out of order and it does in fact generally recognize that you did this gently caress off with calling them lazy Sorry we offended your uncle
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Jun 21, 2023 15:55
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:I'm just sick to death of the "lazy devs" line. I know a lot of game developers and if anything they're all incredibly overworked. It's OK to be annoyed or to call out a game when it sucks, just find more creative insults. EDIT: exquisite tea posted:"Lazy" can also mean "lacking in attention to detail or careless" rather than you know, saying Nintendo developers don't work hard or anything. "Lazy devs" and "devs didn't care" are the same insult. It implies that the problem was that the devs didn't apply themselves enough, rather than that the problem was that you're tackling a fundamentally extremely hard problem with limited resources. TooMuchAbstraction has a new favorite as of 16:38 on Jun 21, 2023 |
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Jun 21, 2023 16:27
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"Lazy" can also mean "lacking in attention to detail or careless" rather than you know, saying Nintendo developers don't work hard or anything.
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Jun 21, 2023 16:32
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personally I would have devoted another extra year of development toward creating thousands of interlocking conditional story flags so the game can tell that I have no reason to go the castle, because I already figured the story out. i am still going to go to the castle because there is stuff there to pick up and add to my bag of hoarding, but it should acknowledge this by shortening 30 seconds of dialogue i am already mashing through.
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Jun 21, 2023 16:34
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Neddy Seagoon posted:There's not a lot you can do when you have to deal with a shitload of permutations for what the player potentially has and hasn't done at any given moment in the story. I know it's a meme, but Fallout New Vegas figured this out ages ago.
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Jun 21, 2023 16:35
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Philippe posted:I know it's a meme, but Fallout New Vegas figured this out ages ago. Link should have the option to bang Ganondorf and kill him in his sleep after.
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Jun 21, 2023 16:50
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I would have chosen to nuke Kakariko
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:EDIT: As someone who had done a lot of work in the videogame industry and has many close friends who are still involved in said industry, 'devs don't care' is a surprisingly accurate description for many of them, especially when you're talking about producers and directors of development. These days it's very common for those positions to be filled with MBA tech-bros who understand that games make money but don't understand why people actually play them or who people play them. A quote I heard recently that describes them perfectly is, 'If you are constantly chasing after the competitor in front of you, everything you make will look like your competitor's rear end' You can see the end product, but you can't see, or necessarily understand, the decisions that led to that design which means you will probably miss the reasons it is successful'. A friend of mine, who has worked on more than a few AAA titles for Ubi, EA, and Activision, is now working as a Creative Director for a mobile company that is making a licensed product for a MAJOR franchise. This franchise has many iconic characters, and the producer and the Director of Development want to copy a previous game and use all of them without regard to canon. Now the licensor is very sensitive about their canon purity and will not allow that, and my friend is stuck trying to explain that to his bosses, but the bosses see the product purely in ease of design and in marketing terms and so are about to lose the contract and not even realize why.
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Jun 21, 2023 16:58
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Philippe posted:I know it's a meme, but Fallout New Vegas figured this out ages ago. I'll always remember getting a chuckle out of how engine shenanigans cause you to initiate and fail like 4 major quests in a row including the sound cues as soon as you commit to an endgame path. I think Mr. House even has a dialogue tree break to put you back in gameplay for all those quests to fail, and then it just resumes and your only option if you've found the chip is this exchange: quote:YOU: Can we get down to business? Thanks man I think I got it!!
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Jun 21, 2023 17:06
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I love when a metroidvania lets you naturally discover parts of its exploration mechanics. Axiom Verge has an upgrade that gives you a drone that fits into morph-ball sized entrances. You get it very early, it''s weak, and only has 1 weapon, but you can use it to pick up upgrades and scout ahead. I've been using it to reach ledges I normally can't, and grabbed a few upgrades because of it, since you fire it in an arc. I also grabbed a range upgrade for it that makes it fly farther before landing. Last night I solved a puzzle with it and unlocked the ability to teleport to its location, which means that I can crawl through a narrow gap and then teleport to it and use the much larger toolset to further explore the area. You use the same button to fire it that you would use to teleport to it. What the game doesn't tell you is that you can cancel the arc of the drone by tapping that same button while it is mid flight. This effectively makes it a free teleport to anywhere the drone is currently flying toward. It's a scuffed double jump! And it works really drat well, way better than the double-tap teleport dash or the grappling hook for mobility. The downside is it's hidden behind the only boss in the game that could kill me, it took over a dozen attempts until I finally found a weapon to deal with its tougher-than-usual minions (which is also my favorite weapon, it's an auto-homing lightning bolt that you can press and hold instead of tap firing like everything else)
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TooMuchAbstraction posted:"Lazy devs" and "devs didn't care" are the same insult. It implies that the problem was that the devs didn't apply themselves enough, rather than that the problem was that you're tackling a fundamentally extremely hard problem with limited resources. What irks most people is the fact that the game 100% completely stonefaces you about it, not an ounce of acknowledgment. Not even a single NPC with a throw away line like 'Oh you figured it out huh? Well let's just keep it under wraps for now, we have more immediate things to deal with.  'It's not some secret buried in the corner hidden side quest, it's pushed as a major thing to do at any time once you unlock it.
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It’s weird, because Breath of the Wild definitely nods to you getting the Master Sword early at least, and tbh doing that before the shrines in BOTW is a significantly bigger ask than doing in Tears since there’s more shrines in the latter and the Depths exist partially to let you find them by having huge chunks of the underworld tell you where they are in the main world.
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Croccers posted:What irks most people is the fact that the game 100% completely stonefaces you about it, not an ounce of acknowledgment. Not even a single NPC with a throw away line like 'Oh you figured it out huh? Well let's just keep it under wraps for now, we have more immediate things to deal with. If you find all the Tears you can go back to Impa at the Forgotten Temple and that exact thing happens; she says to keep it under wraps and goes back to Kakariko Village to find a way to return Zelda to normal
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Jun 22, 2023 18:11
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SgtSteel91 posted:If you find all the Tears you can go back to Impa at the Forgotten Temple and that exact thing happens; she says to keep it under wraps and goes back to Kakariko Village to find a way to return Zelda to normal Does that change things after you've done all the temples and everyone goes THAT'S ZELDA UP THERE GO GET HER ?
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Jun 22, 2023 18:35
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Len posted:Does that change things after you've done all the temples and everyone goes THAT'S ZELDA UP THERE GO GET HER ? Nope, Link is pretty good about staying silent on these kinds of things when asked.
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Jun 22, 2023 19:23
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Len posted:Does that change things after you've done all the temples and everyone goes THAT'S ZELDA UP THERE GO GET HER ? This is going into personal headcanon/fanfic but I take going up to Hyrule castle after finding all the Tears to be Link confronting the imposter Zelda, even if it is a trap, because how dare you wear her face
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bawk posted:Nope, Link is pretty good about staying silent on these kinds of things when asked. 
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SgtSteel91 posted:This is going into personal headcanon/fanfic but I take going up to Hyrule castle after finding all the Tears to be Link confronting the imposter Zelda, even if it is a trap, because how dare you wear her face that honestly should have been the plot change if you knew about it already. everyone can still know it's a trap, but Links gonna kick the door in to get revenge. instead we just get an apathetic shrug bawk posted:Nope, Link is pretty good about staying silent on these kinds of things when asked. Except after that plot development purah goes on a whole spiel about needing to find another sage and the master sword. then at the very end Link makes some gestures and she goes "you found them already? and the master sword? why didn't you say so sooner?!" so why didn't he let anyone know Zelda wasn't Zelda? I'm putting more thought into the story than they did I'm aware Len has a new favorite as of 22:13 on Jun 22, 2023 |
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I've decided to give Blasphemous another go. It's pretty interesting, and I like how frequent the shortcuts end up being, especially in areas like the Sunken Church (which is as far as I've got to far, but unlocking more and more of the opening stairwell therefore making the area far faster to play through is quite satisfying). Due to not being mired in the catholic faith I'm probably going to miss a lot of specific iconography, but I like the obvious stuff like the protagonist's helmet being a similar vibe to a bishop's mitre but wrapped in a crown of thorns, along with their whole thing being self-flallegation via the thorn embedded in the hilt of their sword plus their vow of silence.
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PYF Little Things In Games: Due to not being mired in the catholic faith I'm probably going to miss a lot of specific iconography
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Len posted:I'm putting more thought into the story than they did I'm aware lol at least no-one can accuse you of false modesty
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Len posted:I'm putting more thought into the story than they did I'm aware i know deciding you're right and arguing about it to the death is your Thing but you're missing the point entirely. even if everyone knows the things you want them to have acknowledged that they know, in-story that confrontation still needs to happen because Something's hosed and they need to know why it's happening. maybe zelda's still involved, and saving/rescuing "part of her" is important! with hindsight you might know that's not true, but that's hindsight from already having seen that plot point and not from the sidequest
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Pulsarcat posted:I tried out a demo of a game called Laika: Aged Through Blood, a metroidvania that combines Trials style motorcycle gameplay with horrifying furry violence. Laika, the... the space dog? Laika: Aged Through Blood will feature violence, blood, drugs, and strong language.
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