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Bonzo
Mar 11, 2004

Just like Mama used to make it!

Internet Old One posted:

If they’re not self hosting a ton then they need to fire spez. Also I expect they’re probably 100% on AWS.

They'll be running on whatever platform Conde Nast uses. Larger companies will usually negotiate their AWS/Azure bills and with reduced API hits they'll save quite a bit this way vs running their own Cloud or data center.

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Internet Old One
Dec 6, 2021

Coke Adds Life

Bonzo posted:

They'll be running on whatever platform Conde Nast uses. Larger companies will usually negotiate their AWS/Azure bills and with reduced API hits they'll save quite a bit this way vs running their own Cloud or data center.

You know I considered that after posting and it really depends on a lot of things but when I went to edit my post:

quote:

If they’re not self hosting a ton then they need to fire spez. Also I expect they’re probably 100% on AWS

I couldn’t find a fault with the logic.

Kevin Bacon
Sep 22, 2010


Guys reddit is dead everyone is rushing to post and view images of john oliver on reddit and john oliver is posting about it on twitter to make sure everyone is aware of it how can they possibly survive this

Grassy Knowles
Apr 4, 2003

"The original Terminator was a gritty fucking AMAZING piece of sci-fi. Gritty fucking rock-hard MURDER!"

Kevin Bacon posted:

Guys reddit is dead everyone is rushing to post and view images of john oliver on reddit and john oliver is posting about it on twitter to make sure everyone is aware of it how can they possibly survive this

Struggling to say ‘it’s oll-iver now’ in a way that also sounds like ‘it’s all over now’

deep dish peat moss
Jul 27, 2006

Kevin Bacon posted:

Guys reddit is dead everyone is rushing to post and view images of john oliver on reddit and john oliver is posting about it on twitter to make sure everyone is aware of it how can they possibly survive this

Painstakingly making sure I've checked 3 entire pages of each of my favorite subreddits today to make sure I didn't miss any "Reddit is ruining itself" posts to upvote. I've only spent $60 gilding those posts today, and my Reddit Boycott budget that my wife agreed to is $100/day, I've still got $40 left...

Tiny Timbs
Sep 6, 2008

Kevin Bacon posted:

Guys reddit is dead everyone is rushing to post and view images of john oliver on reddit and john oliver is posting about it on twitter to make sure everyone is aware of it how can they possibly survive this

epic 🤣

Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Dec 22, 2005

GET LOSE, YOU CAN'T COMPARE WITH MY POWERS

Kevin Bacon posted:

Guys reddit is dead everyone is rushing to post and view images of john oliver on reddit and john oliver is posting about it on twitter to make sure everyone is aware of it how can they possibly survive this
narwhal. as. gently caress.

The Bananana
May 21, 2008

This is a metaphor, a Christian allegory. The fact that I have to explain to you that Jesus is the Warthog, and the Banana is drepanocytosis is just embarrassing for you.



Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

narwhal. as. gently caress.

Can I report this post?

Let's see...


annnndd I'm Banned.

Insanite
Aug 30, 2005

lol. the small subs that i mod (biggest one is 40k users) all got the "open or or we'll replace you" message from some reddit admin account:

quote:

Hi everyone,

We are aware that you have chosen to close your community at this time. Mods have a right to take a break from moderating, or decide that you don’t want to be a mod anymore. But active communities are relied upon by thousands or even millions of users, and we have a duty to keep these spaces active.

Subreddits belong to the community of users who come to them for support and conversation. Moderators are stewards of these spaces and in a position of trust. Redditors rely on these spaces for information, support, entertainment, and connection.

Our goal here is to ensure that existing mod teams establish a path forward to make sure your subreddit is available for the community that has made its home here. If you are willing to reopen and maintain the community, please take steps to begin that process. Many communities have chosen to go restricted for a period of time before becoming fully open, to avoid a flood of traffic.

If this community remains private, we will reach out soon with information on what next steps will take place.

didn't really think they'd bother with small fish, tbh.

us mods are all obviously quitting and asking people to go anywhere but reddit if they want to continue talking about niche topics in critical geography, but lol. what a poo poo site.

and also a hearty "gently caress you" to me, someone who did free labor for a private company. that was very dumb.

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦
Is this going to be another Twitter thing where everybody hates everything that's being done with it but nobody actually stops using the site?

Mr. Crow
May 22, 2008

Snap City mayor for life

Heath posted:

Is this going to be another Twitter thing where everybody hates everything that's being done with it but nobody actually stops using the site?

Yes

Canine Blues Arooo
Jan 7, 2008

when you think about it...i'm the first girl you ever spent the night with



Grimey Drawer
twitter has never been good.

almost1337
Jun 14, 2013

The male likpatons turn around the nucleus formed of female boobons and neutral bolsterons

Heath posted:

Is this going to be another Twitter thing where everybody hates everything that's being done with it but nobody actually stops using the site?

Seems that way so far. The real test will be when the 3rd party apps stop working on the 30th

Bad Purchase
Jun 17, 2019




it will be even less than what happened with twitter, because a lot of advertisers stopped using twitter even if the users didn't

reddit is not likely to lose advertisers over this, at worst just some impressions for a little while

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Insanite posted:

lol. the small subs that i mod (biggest one is 40k users) all got the "open or or we'll replace you" message from some reddit admin account:

didn't really think they'd bother with small fish, tbh.

us mods are all obviously quitting and asking people to go anywhere but reddit if they want to continue talking about niche topics in critical geography, but lol. what a poo poo site.

and also a hearty "gently caress you" to me, someone who did free labor for a private company. that was very dumb.

Haha you provided labor for a billion dollar company for free.

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦
This wave of enshittening of popular websites doesn't feel like a coincidence to me

I really think these other sites are looking at what Musk is doing and saying hey, there's 1) no way we can do worse than what he's doing and that fact 2) opens up the doors for basically any and every degree of degradation of the site and abuse towards its users because Musk has proven that even the people who hate what he's doing never actually hit the point of critical mass and leave the site (not for very long, anyway)

It's happening with other things, too, like how Hasbro can keep raising the price of Magic the Gathering packs with every single set and completely gently caress up the game's monetary economy as well as its gameplay one and they only keep selling more in spite of people grumbling about it. This is just the future now

The Bananana
May 21, 2008

This is a metaphor, a Christian allegory. The fact that I have to explain to you that Jesus is the Warthog, and the Banana is drepanocytosis is just embarrassing for you.



Heath posted:

Is this going to be another Twitter thing where everybody hates everything that's being done with it but nobody actually stops using the site?

Sad yes.

dervival
Apr 23, 2014


Heath posted:

This wave of enshittening of popular websites doesn't feel like a coincidence to me

I really think these other sites are looking at what Musk is doing and saying hey, there's 1) no way we can do worse than what he's doing and that fact 2) opens up the doors for basically any and every degree of degradation of the site and abuse towards its users because Musk has proven that even the people who hate what he's doing never actually hit the point of critical mass and leave the site (not for very long, anyway)

I still think they're jumping the gun and following the trajectory of a stricken ship, it's just that they didn't realize how much ballast was kept aboard that could be managed to keep it temporarily afloat. It's really weird to see all these previously healthy things stab themselves in the gut and call a blue-light special on their soon-to-be corpses like K-Mart did in real time.

DiomedesGodshill
Feb 21, 2009

Insanite posted:

lol. the small subs that i mod (biggest one is 40k users) all got the "open or or we'll replace you" message from some reddit admin account:

didn't really think they'd bother with small fish, tbh.

us mods are all obviously quitting and asking people to go anywhere but reddit if they want to continue talking about niche topics in critical geography, but lol. what a poo poo site.

and also a hearty "gently caress you" to me, someone who did free labor for a private company. that was very dumb.

I get passion projects. I applaud you for taking your free time (without pay) to moderate the shits on the internet. Good on you. I'm laughing in unison of the subreddits that have fallen into the obvious chaos where the mods were like "ok...we're done. Do whatever". Specifically now popular subreddits are filling with porn to deny advertising.

o7

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦

dervival posted:

I still think they're jumping the gun and following the trajectory of a stricken ship, it's just that they didn't realize how much ballast was kept aboard that could be managed to keep it temporarily afloat. It's really weird to see all these previously healthy things stab themselves in the gut and call a blue-light special on their soon-to-be corpses like K-Mart did in real time.

Are they, though? I feel like the philosophy is "Where else ya gonna go?" Are people going to start signing up here and staying? We've gotten a small wave of people but every single one of those people will go back to Reddit in a few days at best. A bunch of people who are like "Hey guys, I'm back from Reddit" left SA in like, 2010-2012, when the forums were at their peak. Why would they stick around now?

And SA actually has some appeal for a fuckin' BBS board. Where else is there that's even comparable to reddit or twitter?

edit: Probably worth noting: I do not use Reddit, at least not regularly -- I have an account and I've posted like, twice, years ago and I occasionally pop it open infrequently when I'm very bored but I never stick around for longer than a few minutes because the website is just plainly wretched even prior to all of this. I also got off of Twitter after like a year in 2014 and I haven't posted since. So nothing I say is in praise of these websites because they're terrible and always have been.

Heath fucked around with this message at 02:13 on Jun 21, 2023

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000

Ultra Carp

Jeffrey of YOSPOS posted:

narwhal. as. gently caress.

I filtered out all posts that mention "John Oliver" but the joke misspellings still get through :mad:

Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000

Ultra Carp

Insanite posted:

and also a hearty "gently caress you" to me, someone who did free labor for a private company. that was very dumb.

:owned:

dervival
Apr 23, 2014


Heath posted:

Are they, though? I feel like the philosophy is "Where else ya gonna go?" Are people going to start signing up here and staying? We've gotten a small wave of people but every single one of those people will go back to Reddit in a few days at best. A bunch of people who are like "Hey guys, I'm back from Reddit" left SA in like, 2010-2012, when the forums were at their peak. Why would they stick around now?

And SA actually has some appeal for a fuckin' BBS board. Where else is there that's even comparable to reddit or twitter?

Honestly, the user experience for everything might just degrade to the point where users throw their hands up and just leave the ecosystem entirely. Sometimes people do get fed up with stuff becoming poo poo, though that might be my eternal pessimism talking.

R.L. Stine
Oct 19, 2007

welcome to dead gay dog house

Heath posted:

This wave of enshittening of popular websites doesn't feel like a coincidence to me

I really think these other sites are looking at what Musk is doing and saying hey, there's 1) no way we can do worse than what he's doing and that fact 2) opens up the doors for basically any and every degree of degradation of the site and abuse towards its users because Musk has proven that even the people who hate what he's doing never actually hit the point of critical mass and leave the site (not for very long, anyway)

It's happening with other things, too, like how Hasbro can keep raising the price of Magic the Gathering packs with every single set and completely gently caress up the game's monetary economy as well as its gameplay one and they only keep selling more in spite of people grumbling about it. This is just the future now

he's loving up a lot of things and rich people are taking notes and in a few years they will be offering moon tours with rockets that explode as soon as the passengers board

Lampsacus
Oct 21, 2008

Metafilter, various discords, various other fora. I mean, there are plenty of hobby forums with enough critical mass to sustain communities beyond talking about the hobby directly forever. BGG has been around since 2000? Civfanatics has large nonciv forums that are quite similar to sa, i.e. they've been playing mafia games since forever. I remember playing forum survivor there in like 2009? Sa really isn't that unique, there are dozens (hundreds?) of forum communities of comparable size and age. SA forums, like reddit, suffer from being inward looking and relatively oblivious to being one-of-many because it's overwhelmingly American and well.

Sunday Morning
Apr 7, 2007

Easy
Smellrose

The Bananana posted:

Can I report this post?

Let's see...


annnndd I'm Banned.

the downvote report button is not a disagree button! :argh:

Rinkles
Oct 24, 2010

What I'm getting at is...
Do you feel the same way?

DiomedesGodshill posted:

Specifically now popular subreddits are filling with porn to deny advertising.

Clever

Kuros
Sep 13, 2010

Oh look, the consequences of my prior actions are finally catching up to me.
Those subreddits are now having ALL of their mods removed and changed back to SFW by admins with no warning despite the users voting to go to NSFW. Also admins are changing mod orders without discussion as well. (Mod order is important as highest mod in the list has the most power)

/r/interestingasfuck currently has no mods.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



NO MODS, NO MASTERS!

Oh, wait...

Dancing Peasant
Jul 19, 2003

All this for stealing a piece of bread? :waycool:

LifeLynx posted:

My daughter asked when her favorite show was coming back, and of course there was a subreddit with info and even a bit of teaser about what the season might be about. Don't ask why there's a subreddit for a kid's show, it's not like I'm letting her on Reddit.

Was it Bluey?

Because Bluey owns.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009

Dancing Peasant posted:

Was it Bluey?

Because Bluey owns.

Bluey is fantastic.

Insanite
Aug 30, 2005

Bluey loving rules

Hypocrisy
Oct 4, 2006
Lord of Sarcasm

Kuros posted:

Those subreddits are now having ALL of their mods removed and changed back to SFW by admins with no warning despite the users voting to go to NSFW. Also admins are changing mod orders without discussion as well. (Mod order is important as highest mod in the list has the most power)

/r/interestingasfuck currently has no mods.

Seems like a foolproof plan to make people behave.

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦
I don't have kids but my friend's kid watches Bluey pretty often and if she's watching it I will watch it with her because it actually kicks rear end. I never really realized how poorly other shows represent children until I watched that show and was like "oh, these kids actually act like kids and not small adults" and it just works

Fork of Unknown Origins
Oct 21, 2005
Gotta Herd On?
They’ve handled this so badly. All it would’ve taken was more time and being honest about wanting to get rid of third party apps. Every bicker with a dev, every forced reopening, every mod-nuke just resets the timer until people finally forget about all this.

Edit: Bluey is a top tier kids show.

LifeLynx
Feb 27, 2001

Dang so this is like looking over his shoulder in real-time
Grimey Drawer

Dancing Peasant posted:

Was it Bluey?

Because Bluey owns.

Bluey does own, we're both sad the season is over. The show was Hilda, which is also very good but obviously not as good as Bluey.

AmbientParadox
Mar 2, 2005
Reddit is absolutely replaceable. I used to moderate a remote student subreddit, this was back in like 2015. Around 2018 some other students started a Slack for the program. We promoted it on the subreddit and our daily traffic plummeted. Last I checked, around 2020, students were migrating away from Slack and into Discords for the program. The subreddit is still there, but the traffic is much lower than it was before the alternatives. If the mods shut the doors on that subreddit, sure there'd be a short-term hole for students, but I imagine somebody would just spin up a github static page with link info for the Slack and Discords.

Honestly, in 2 weeks I doubt I'll leave reddit permanently. But I'm not bothering with the site on my phone without Apollo. If I had another news aggregator for desktop that wasn't like, yahoo news, I'd probably just go to that instead.

Heath
Apr 30, 2008

🍂🎃🏞️💦
Well, the problem there is that Discord is not easily searchable, and it's subject to all the same bullshit Reddit is but probably even worse, because everything is so siloed. Discord is doing a lot of the same profit-driven bullshit that Reddit and Twitter are doing, but even for how blatantly ineffective Reddit's protest is, it's at least visible. Imagine the same thing happening on Discord.

FlapYoJacks
Feb 12, 2009
Bluey owns because it’s not afraid to deal with heavy poo poo like the budgie dying.

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Vim Fuego
Jun 1, 2000

Ultra Carp

Heath posted:

Well, the problem there is that Discord is not easily searchable, and it's subject to all the same bullshit Reddit is but probably even worse, because everything is so siloed. Discord is doing a lot of the same profit-driven bullshit that Reddit and Twitter are doing, but even for how blatantly ineffective Reddit's protest is, it's at least visible. Imagine the same thing happening on Discord.

Do people actually just belong to tens or hundreds of discords? That sounds exhausting

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