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bred
Oct 24, 2008
They rip by turning the panel saw 90, clamping it, and shoving the board through. I asked for a half rip at 2' and they were off 3/8".

Might have better luck building a sled for your circular saw.

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NomNomNom
Jul 20, 2008
Please Work Out
Got my lady a nice straight stick of sapele. Great suggestion goons, this stuff is a joy to work with, planes beautifully. I don't full trust my homemade power jointer so I jointed one edge by hand for the practice.



Going to taper the ends and make a handle. Have to figure out how beveled she wants the straight edge to be for her rotary cutter.

NomNomNom
Jul 20, 2008
Please Work Out
Edges beveled, handle hole shaped, finish applied, wife approved.

76" of straight enough.

ImplicitAssembler
Jan 24, 2013

Mister Kingdom posted:

Has anyone had experience with Home Depot cutting up plywood?

I have a project where I need some plywood ripped into 5" wide strips and do not have the tools or space to handle full size sheets. The width can be off slightly since I figure they won't be able to be super precise.

I know they charge a nominal fee per cut and I have no problem with that.

Yes and quite accurate too. (~1/16").
Which would be cool, expect their plywood is terrible.

PokeJoe
Aug 24, 2004

hail cgatan


My buddy who gave me the planes also gave me a bunch of various wood pieces, so I decided to make myself a small square from cocobolo and mahogany. I figure if it's small enough to leave on my workbench and made of cool wood I'm more likely to use it. I planed the edges smooth and glued it up against a speed square. Then after the glue dried I drilled it out and hammered a bit of steel wire i had into it. looks nice and is a convenient size :)

PokeJoe fucked around with this message at 03:46 on Jun 20, 2023

Mister Kingdom
Dec 14, 2005

And the tears that fall
On the city wall
Will fade away
With the rays of morning light

ImplicitAssembler posted:

Yes and quite accurate too. (~1/16").
Which would be cool, expect their plywood is terrible.

Thanks to all for the replies.

I think I will explore other routes to get what I need.

deimos
Nov 30, 2006

Forget it man this bat is whack, it's got poobrain!
I have barely enough space for a 36" cabinet saw, money being no object, would a Hammer K3 Winner in a special 48x31 (48" slider) configuration be better idea? No outrigger but taking the miter bar out the thing would be very compact. And from all I have read these things are insanely good quality.

poo poo gotta be mobile so that I can stash the car in the garage wood shop during storms (which, hey, there's one coming) but other than that no real requirements.

Bann
Jan 14, 2019

PokeJoe posted:

I bought an AliExpress Chinese style push plane. Anyone ever use one of these dealies? They're supposed to work well for sitting work benches, which I've been using lately. It has a brass insert for the front of the mouth which I've not come across before



I have a very similar one (my handle fits into a slot in the top, rather than through a hole in the body. I think your picture might be one size larger than mine.) It's fun! I also have a low roman bench (same Rex Kruegar one I've seen posted in this thread a few times) that I've used it on. This was my first tool that needed adjusting with a mallet, and while it a new thing, I was able to get decent shavings with it. I'm not sure if it's a function of the size or just how they make those planes but I unexpectedly enjoyed the lack of a chip breaker. I find I have a lot of doubt with my western plane around the chip breaker (is it flat/tight enough? Is it at the right distance from the edge? Why is it getting all gunked up?) but with no chip breaker on this one it takes all of that out of the equation.

I think you've inspired me to re-sharpen this iron and use it for a small project I want to tackle next.

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


Looks like Woodworker’s Supply might be closing and they are having a big sale. Their WoodTek brand router bits and stuff are usually pretty decent quality and a good value ime.
https://woodworker.com/

Meow Meow Meow
Nov 13, 2010

deimos posted:

I have barely enough space for a 36" cabinet saw, money being no object, would a Hammer K3 Winner in a special 48x31 (48" slider) configuration be better idea? No outrigger but taking the miter bar out the thing would be very compact. And from all I have read these things are insanely good quality.

poo poo gotta be mobile so that I can stash the car in the garage wood shop during storms (which, hey, there's one coming) but other than that no real requirements.

I would say that Hammer would be better in every way...except it will cost significantly more than a cabinet saw. Also, really check the dimensions to ensure it will fit, I really want one, but there is not a great way for it to fit in my shop, because you need 8' (maybe a bit more) of unobstructed space for the sliding mechanism to go the full length. My workbench doubles as an outfeed, so I would have had to move it into a less than ideal spot to make room for the slider.

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

Kaiser Schnitzel posted:

Looks like Woodworker’s Supply might be closing and they are having a big sale. Their WoodTek brand router bits and stuff are usually pretty decent quality and a good value ime.
https://woodworker.com/

Woah they have a $6k lathe for $1k?
https://woodworker.com/woodtek-no-1-wood-lathe-basic-package-mssu-96-130.asp
Is this a good lathe? It's like $500 shipping.

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


Leperflesh posted:

Woah they have a $6k lathe for $1k?
https://woodworker.com/woodtek-no-1-wood-lathe-basic-package-mssu-96-130.asp
Is this a good lathe? It's like $500 shipping.
I can’t speak to that lathe but most of the Woodtek stuff is decent Taiwanese white label kind of stuff.

E: as far as specs it seems good tho maybe unusual to have a DC motor? The bed is pretty short but that’s not so important for bowls. The castings all look pretty substantial for sure. The way I found out about the sale was an email saying ‘hey the Woodtek brand is going away August 15 and you’ve bought woodtek stuff before so if you need parts get them now’ so parts availability may not be great down the road, but also stuff doesn’t break very often on lathes?

Kaiser Schnitzel fucked around with this message at 17:53 on Jun 20, 2023

Leperflesh
May 17, 2007

It does look like a bit of an odd duck, big and stout but short. I don't have room for a lathe anyway but that could be a good deal for someone else ITT.

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


Leperflesh posted:

It does look like a bit of an odd duck, big and stout but short. I don't have room for a lathe anyway but that could be a good deal for someone else ITT.
Yeah it's very much an odd duck. Usually with white label machines like that it's pretty easy to tell that all 4 of these 'brands' are using the same manufacturer, but I can't much that looks comparable. This is a bit similar in the very large heavy bed castings, but uses a much more conventional motor/headstock arrangement.

Poking around a little more online, it seems like the people that have those lathes like them, though most of the posts are a decade+ old. More info here:
https://woodworker.com/sitenews/no1lathe.html

For $1000 it seems like a whole lot of lathe.

e: apparently you can turn stuff the size of a medium sized potbelly pig:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z4e3glgBQis&t=16s

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe
I'm working on building a "hitbox", a game controller that's basically a box with a bunch of buttons wired to a small circuit board. For my "box", I want to use this hunk of Japanese maple:



My plan is basically:
1. drill holes for the buttons
2. cut a recess in the back for the circuit board
3. wire buttons to board, install
4. cover recess with a removable panel

The part that's puzzling me right now is the recess. I see two ways to do this. The first is to hog out most of the material with my drill press, then clean up with a chisel. That's potentially a lot of work, but it's slow and I'm unlikely to severely gently caress it up. The second is to use my router, with a straight bit with a bottom bearing, and a template made from 1/4" plywood or MDF or something. Potentially a lot faster, but messier and with greater risk of screwing up somehow. Plus I'd have to buy the bit; I don't have any straight bottom-bearing bits right now.

Any thoughts? Alternate approaches?

SimonSays
Aug 4, 2006

Simon is the monkey's name

TooMuchAbstraction posted:

I'm working on building a "hitbox", a game controller that's basically a box with a bunch of buttons wired to a small circuit board. For my "box", I want to use this hunk of Japanese maple:



My plan is basically:
1. drill holes for the buttons
2. cut a recess in the back for the circuit board
3. wire buttons to board, install
4. cover recess with a removable panel

The part that's puzzling me right now is the recess. I see two ways to do this. The first is to hog out most of the material with my drill press, then clean up with a chisel. That's potentially a lot of work, but it's slow and I'm unlikely to severely gently caress it up. The second is to use my router, with a straight bit with a bottom bearing, and a template made from 1/4" plywood or MDF or something. Potentially a lot faster, but messier and with greater risk of screwing up somehow. Plus I'd have to buy the bit; I don't have any straight bottom-bearing bits right now.

Any thoughts? Alternate approaches?

It's neat that this comes up once a year in this thread.

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe

SimonSays posted:

It's neat that this comes up once a year in this thread.

Street Fighter 6 came out. I'm guessing last time it was probably Guilty Gear Strive.

Right now I'm leaning towards hogging out the material with a Forstner bit and then chiseling out the remainder, mostly because it's a very controllable technique. I don't want to gently caress up this piece of wood. It came from a Japanese maple that grew in my parents' back yard. A few years ago, it died, and I harvested what I could. Made them a serving board from one of the pieces, and this is the only other piece of any significant size. It's really nice wood, but also basically irreplaceable.

On a different note, I'd like to "sign" this when I'm done. I'm thinking of bending some steel wire into the shape of my initials, heating it, and pressing it into the wood. I can solder but not weld; figure I can solder the wire to the end of a copper pipe or something to give me some leverage to press it onto the wood. Any thoughts?

EDIT:

dupersaurus posted:

Could probably just use a pair of pliers, I wouldn’t think it’d take all that much force

once again I am overthinking things, yep. Thanks!

TooMuchAbstraction fucked around with this message at 02:26 on Jun 21, 2023

dupersaurus
Aug 1, 2012

Futurism was an art movement where dudes were all 'CARS ARE COOL AND THE PAST IS FOR CHUMPS. LET'S DRAW SOME CARS.'

TooMuchAbstraction posted:

On a different note, I'd like to "sign" this when I'm done. I'm thinking of bending some steel wire into the shape of my initials, heating it, and pressing it into the wood. I can solder but not weld; figure I can solder the wire to the end of a copper pipe or something to give me some leverage to press it onto the wood. Any thoughts?

Could probably just use a pair of pliers, I wouldn’t think it’d take all that much force

HolHorsejob
Mar 14, 2020

Portrait of Cheems II of Spain by Jabona Neftman, olo pint on fird
I just picked up a ryobi JP-155 6" benchtop jointer for $100 off Craigslist. Anyone have experience with this jointer? The cursory info I've found is that there's no mechanism to adjust for keeping the infeed & out feed coplanar. The test cut was nice and flat, at least.

Mister Dog
Dec 27, 2005

TooMuchAbstraction posted:

I'm working on building a "hitbox", a game controller that's basically a box with a bunch of buttons wired to a small circuit board. For my "box", I want to use this hunk of Japanese maple:



My plan is basically:
1. drill holes for the buttons
2. cut a recess in the back for the circuit board
3. wire buttons to board, install
4. cover recess with a removable panel

The part that's puzzling me right now is the recess. I see two ways to do this. The first is to hog out most of the material with my drill press, then clean up with a chisel. That's potentially a lot of work, but it's slow and I'm unlikely to severely gently caress it up. The second is to use my router, with a straight bit with a bottom bearing, and a template made from 1/4" plywood or MDF or something. Potentially a lot faster, but messier and with greater risk of screwing up somehow. Plus I'd have to buy the bit; I don't have any straight bottom-bearing bits right now.

Any thoughts? Alternate approaches?

You could do both, hog with the drill, cleanup with the router. If this is a one-time job, it might not be worth all the setup time tho.

deimos
Nov 30, 2006

Forget it man this bat is whack, it's got poobrain!

HolHorsejob posted:

I just picked up a ryobi JP-155 6" benchtop jointer for $100 off Craigslist. Anyone have experience with this jointer? The cursory info I've found is that there's no mechanism to adjust for keeping the infeed & out feed coplanar. The test cut was nice and flat, at least.

You shim those.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

TooMuchAbstraction posted:


On a different note, I'd like to "sign" this when I'm done. I'm thinking of bending some steel wire into the shape of my initials, heating it, and pressing it into the wood. I can solder but not weld; figure I can solder the wire to the end of a copper pipe or something to give me some leverage to press it onto the wood. Any thoughts?

EDIT:

once again I am overthinking things, yep. Thanks!

You're going to need less force than you think, amd if you want a clean mark, more heat than you think

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man




$50 at a garage sale whoop whoop

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


CommonShore posted:



$50 at a garage sale whoop whoop

Dang that’s a steal. Get your blue paint out.

Bondematt
Jan 26, 2007

Not too stupid

CommonShore posted:



$50 at a garage sale whoop whoop

...I should go to garage sales apparently.

Mederlock
Jun 23, 2012

You won't recognize Canada when I'm through with it
Grimey Drawer

Bondematt posted:

...I should go to garage sales apparently.

I got a 5" vintage Record Machinist's vise for $25 at one, the guy's wife was running the garage sale as he had went out for beers with his buddy's and she accepted my offer :laugh:

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


Kaiser Schnitzel posted:

Dang that’s a steal. Get your blue paint out.


Bondematt posted:

...I should go to garage sales apparently.

I love garage sales so much. Painting it is a good idea... I have a cast iron sewing machine base that I am planning to paint a bright blue or turqoise colour so maybe I could do both of those at once....

I think I'm going to install it as a tail vise on my AWB, but with the Paul Sellers bench vise configuration.

CommonShore
Jun 6, 2014

A true renaissance man


oh sorta related -

I went and visited my friend who runs facilities in a large commercial greenhouse/gardening operation and he observed that this year the retail home garden sales are way down since 2020.

Implications for woodworking? We may be on the back end of the covid DIY wave that pushed up the second-hand market. Just as 2022 saw lots of opportunities in used fitness gear as people unloaded the home gyms they hadn't used since lockdown (tyvm used squat rack), 2023 may be the year that people start unloading the tools they bought in 2020 and 2021.

The garage sales and craigslist might be very very good this year for those of us who are still doing this stuff.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

there's pretty much always crazy yard/estate sale deals on lightly used shop equipment if you're willing to wait a couple months for the thing you want to pop up. Like half of the industry is selling affluent office workers on the fantasy they can quit their boring day job and make a living as a great artisan sorta pottering around in their garage occasionally, if only they buy $20000 in nice tooling first, and when they die or get bored or run out of money someone's gonna be in a hurry to get rid of all that big heavy specialist equipment taking up space

a few more people might be looking to cash out now that lumber prices are going insane with no sign of ever stabilizing, but so far it's just brought an abrupt end to the same kinds of fire sales on some old dude's fancy hardwoods collection

A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 23:57 on Jun 23, 2023

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


A Wizard of Goatse posted:

a few more people might be looking to cash out now that lumber prices are going insane with no sign of ever stabilizing, but so far it's just brought an abrupt end to the same kinds of fire sales on some old dude's fancy hardwoods collection
Hardwood and softwood lumber prices seem to have come back down and stabilized a good bit at least around here. They’re still higher than they were pre-covid, but no longer shockingly high.

E: yeah poking around construction lumber prices are about as low as they have been in a good while. Hardwood stumpage (which doesn’t always a great indicator of actual lumber price trends but usually is) is also generally trending downward.

Kaiser Schnitzel fucked around with this message at 01:07 on Jun 24, 2023

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

I'm a little out of touch cause I've just started getting stuff green and drying it, but I had an order come in that called for a shitload of quartersawn white oak i didn't have ready and the guy at the lumber store kinda rolled his eyes at me and tossed a couple pau ferro boards on the pile for a couple bucks more per board foot lol

Exotics like padauk and sapele have barely even changed from 2019 but the domestic trash woods are off the charts everywhere I look

A Wizard of Goatse fucked around with this message at 01:24 on Jun 24, 2023

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


A Wizard of Goatse posted:

I'm a little out of touch cause I've just started getting stuff green and drying it, but I had an order come in that called for a shitload of quartersawn white oak i didn't have ready and the guy at the lumber store kinda rolled his eyes at me and tossed a couple pau ferro boards on the pile for a couple bucks more per board foot lol

Exotics like padauk and sapele have barely even changed from 2019 but the domestic trash woods are off the charts everywhere I look
White oak in particular is still pretty crazy. Quartersawn white oak has always been a few dollars more than plain white oak and now that regular white oak is $4-5/bf it hurts even more. White oak and walnut are definitely the really popular trendy woods right now. White oak has way more supply but also more demands (single-use bourbon barrels is a huge and wasteful one, flooring is another), whereas walnut just has pretty limited supply. If red oak stumpage is $225/mbf, white oak is $450 and walnut is $700, but walnut and white oak lumber are close to the same price to buy. The good news is cherry is still cheap af.

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe

Kaiser Schnitzel posted:

The good news is cherry is still cheap af.

I'm not complaining, but man folks have weird tastes. Cherry is so much better than oak.

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

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TooMuchAbstraction posted:

I'm not complaining, but man folks have weird tastes. Cherry is so much better than oak.
I completely agree but the pretty unavoidable red in cherry doesn't play well with the pseudo-scandinavian all grey pseudo-minimalism that's still in style. Blonder, paler woods without a hint of red are what all the designers I work with seem to want. Oak, ash, walnut, and a little mahogany are pretty much all I've been using the past few years. Mahogany is out for the same reasons-people think of mahogany as having a lot of red in it, which which their grandmother's honduran mahogany china cabinet stained Bismarck Brown in a Grand Rapids factory c. 1954 totally does. African mahogany is usually much more golden especially with the right stain and I have had decent luck steering folks towards that or sapele.

A Wizard of Goatse
Dec 14, 2014

you'd think maple would be a bit harder to come by in that case, but probably on reflection hardwood furniture production in north america probably consumes 1/100 as much lumber as bourbon barrels alone

Jhet
Jun 3, 2013

A Wizard of Goatse posted:

you'd think maple would be a bit harder to come by in that case, but probably on reflection hardwood furniture production in north america probably consumes 1/100 as much lumber as bourbon barrels alone

The selection criteria for barrels staves is even worse than furniture wood. It’s also all quarter sawn and there’s a bit more waste when it comes to selection for the staves. But they do use a lot of white oak in Kentucky. The shortage surprises me though as they were planting trees decades ago to try to plan for future use. Guess they should have planted more, or just as likely, cut more trees in 2020-21.

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

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A Wizard of Goatse posted:

you'd think maple would be a bit harder to come by in that case, but probably on reflection hardwood furniture production in north america probably consumes 1/100 as much lumber as bourbon barrels alone

Yeah I’m not sure why maple isn’t as popular. Maybe because it goes kind of yellow? And it’s kind of boring? It’s fine with me I really don’t like maple anyway except to turn. Open grained/ring-porous stuff is definitely having a moment.


Jhet posted:

The selection criteria for barrels staves is even worse than furniture wood. It’s also all quarter sawn and there’s a bit more waste when it comes to selection for the staves. But they do use a lot of white oak in Kentucky. The shortage surprises me though as they were planting trees decades ago to try to plan for future use. Guess they should have planted more, or just as likely, cut more trees in 2020-21.
It drives me kind of crazy because it seems incredibly wasteful. Bourbon is about the only American product with anything like a European DOP status and it requires the use of new white oak barrels. Every other aged spirit in the world seems to taste just fine with old barrels, but no, bourbon has to have brand new barrels. Barrel staves are the reason 8/4 QS white is even more stupid expensive than 4/4.

TooMuchAbstraction
Oct 14, 2012

I spent four years making
Waves of Steel
Hell yes I'm going to turn my avatar into an ad for it.
Fun Shoe
Maple's hard to work with, that's my excuse. Rough on tools, burns easily. The aesthetics are fine, but nothing special unless you get some birdseye or something. In short, it's more hassle than it's worth unless I have a situation that calls for really hard wood (e.g. in a cutting board).

Mr. Mambold
Feb 13, 2011

Aha. Nice post.



A Wizard of Goatse posted:

you'd think maple would be a bit harder to come by in that case, but probably on reflection hardwood furniture production in north america probably consumes 1/100 as much lumber as bourbon barrels alone


There's a shitload of fallen maple and who knows what else in Tulsa from a 100mph derecho that blew through there. FYI. Most is going to just get cut up and tossed.

TooMuchAbstraction posted:

Maple's hard to work with, that's my excuse. Rough on tools, burns easily. The aesthetics are fine, but nothing special unless you get some birdseye or something. In short, it's more hassle than it's worth unless I have a situation that calls for really hard wood (e.g. in a cutting board).

There's soft, southern maple. The harder Northern stuff is what's used for bowling alleys. In the 80's, Japan went through a bowling craze phase and were buying up all the Northern rock maple. Weird times, Jeffety.

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Jhet
Jun 3, 2013

Kaiser Schnitzel posted:

It drives me kind of crazy because it seems incredibly wasteful. Bourbon is about the only American product with anything like a European DOP status and it requires the use of new white oak barrels. Every other aged spirit in the world seems to taste just fine with old barrels, but no, bourbon has to have brand new barrels. Barrel staves are the reason 8/4 QS white is even more stupid expensive than 4/4.

Barrels are a really strange thing. But unused charred oak tastes different over time than used barrels, so from that aspect it is a thing. Ironically, the bourbon restriction was put in place to keep the US cooperage industry working a hundred years ago. The good news is that the used barrel market moves pretty fast these days, and most of the used bourbon barrels get reused for other whisky aging. The big squeeze on it is that you can age bourbon for as little as three months and sell it as Jim Beam/Evan Williams for $14 and then that essentially brand new barrel needs to get used for something else. If the barrels were all getting used for years and years, it does fill that purpose, but I do wonder what the wastage on it is and if it's actually getting smaller over the last 10 years as the barrels get used in more and more brewing uses for many years at a time.

Doesn't mean that they shouldn't have planted a lot more trees about 40 years ago, but here we are anyway.

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