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FuzzySlippers posted:Reading that politico article from a while back had me thinking, how effective is the American nuclear trinity still anyway? I remember back in the oughts there was some chatter that America's silos were falling apart and relied on ancient, outdated technology so they pledged billions to update it, but I could see that being pure grift that never got out of the planning stages. What planes can even deliver nukes anymore? Presumably the subs are still fine when they aren't crashing into poo poo. We forgot how to make fogbank because we didn't write it down because secrecy, then we just ignored this until everyone involved forgot / died and we had to spend years and tons of money to figure out how to make it again. America will win WW3.
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And don't you DARE call it a light tank either Cause it isn't light! Or a tank!
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Slavvy posted:And don't you DARE call it a light tank either me consolating myself that im not in a tank as a lancet melts my face unlike that time i melted my face from a lancet in a leopard 2a6 Palladium has issued a correction as of 08:58 on Jun 21, 2023 |
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celadon posted:when i first heard about self propelled guns the mental image i got was the artillery firing backward to push itself forward which probably isnt true but is fun to visualize The PLA (Combat Evolved) development of Spartan IIs and Scorpion tanks is top secret, comrade. Please employ better OPSEC.
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France’s new not-tank is weird too, and seemingly only exists to give a contract to that telescoped ammo company France a d Germany funded for 40 years
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Danann posted:https://twitter.com/PopSci/status/1669734565118636038 The vehicle, with a heavy gun and tank-like mobility, is less armored than a main battle tank like an M1 Abrams. It’s designed to go places the Abrams cannot, and to fight against enemy vehicles, defenses, and forces without needing the ultra heavy armor that bulk up battle tanks. its barely lighter than a base abrams lol
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19-20 tons lighter is quite a bit lighter. Still seems like a light tank. And if the point is shooting at lighter vehicles and emplacements in support of infantry while surviving shrapnel and small arms, that’s what the M3 Stuart was all about!
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Lostconfused posted:I think I like the angled smoke launchers, are they usually supposed to be like that? Usually yeah
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mlmp08 posted:19-20 tons lighter is quite a bit lighter. yeah this. logistically one can put that on a superheavy 40’ FR. where an Abrams would have to go RO-RO or break bulk.
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Ardennes posted:
This looks like it would vaporize instantly at the first sign of combat, it looks like a really overwrought Lego model you can barely pick up without stuff braking off
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Slavvy posted:This looks like it would vaporize instantly at the first sign of combat, it looks like a really overwrought Lego model you can barely pick up without stuff braking off Well just put a sign on it in 50 languages that says I'm not a tank, please don't shoot me
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Slavvy posted:This looks like it would vaporize instantly at the first sign of combat, it looks like a really overwrought Lego model you can barely pick up without stuff braking off It's just for killing defenseless people in colonial wars. all the arms are like anti-ied things, gunshot detector, etc and the main cannon is 40mm so that's just for killing people with light arms or blowing up a hilux with a mounted gun
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Frosted Flake posted:France’s new not-tank is weird too, and seemingly only exists to give a contract to that telescoped ammo company France a d Germany funded for 40 years ceci n'est pas un tank
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In case anyone doesn't read the good news thread The CEO of Raytheon says they can't decouple from China. https://www.ft.com/content/d0b94966-d6fa-4042-a918-37e71eb7282e
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Clark Nova posted:I’m sure China will be happy to send us weapon parts while we’re in a shooting war with them. after all, it’s the rational capitalist thing to do and they’d be leaving money on the table if they didn’t I'm sure if I pressed someone who works in that area, that is literally what they believe. There was a very influential book in Ottawa that was published a few years ago about how economic policy makes all forms of warfare, conventional or nuclear, obsolete. Economics and Modern Warfare: The Invisible Fist of the Market "If a thing has a system, then it can be systematically exploited. If there is effect, then causation can be engineered. If there is behavior, then influence can be applied. If one can see the puppet strings, then one can learn to pull them regardless of which side of them you’re on. Accept nothing. Fear less than nothing. There is rationality in all things. Even that which is irrational can be identified and measured for the degree to which it deviates from rationality. With no fear there is no need for bravery. Problem solving is the finest crusade; knowledge the only weapon necessary. Economics is unique in that, without exception, every action that any person takes will influence the external environment. Economists seek to identify, measure, and, when proper, control those influences. That is the heart of economic combat." Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 16:22 on Jun 23, 2023 |
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Frosted Flake posted:I'm sure if I pressed someone who works in that area, that is literally what they believe. There was a very influential book in Ottawa that was published a few years ago about how economic policy makes all forms of warfare, conventional or nuclear, obsolete. i don't want to be rude or anything, but i feel like circa 1910 isn't "a few years ago" anymore
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Cerebral Bore posted:i don't want to be rude or anything, but i feel like circa 1910 isn't "a few years ago" anymore "Later on, during World War I, finding themselves this time in a posi- tion of having to circumvent a blockade enforced by German U-boats (i.e., submarines), Britain began using civilian transit vessels to ship arms, in addition to the intended civilians. This brazen action allowed them to move through the blockade without even hiding the fact that arms were being included (shells and ammunition were listed on the shipping man- ifests) as a great amount of political pressure was placed on the German military, forcing them to keep from firing openly on shiploads of civil- ians. Despite Britain being a rather easy region to manage in a blockade, given the relatively small size of usable coastline of this island, the British were able to discover a way to defeat what was otherwise a very well- developed blockade, reducing the significance of the strategy as a whole even in optimal conditions. Eventually, this did lead to the sinking of the RMS Lusitania, killing a number of neutral civilians, but the strategy was successful for a majority of its duration, and the global public backlash against Germany led to the eventual withdrawal of all U-boats from the region creating an extremely important opening in the blockade." "Blockades, while more harmful than embargoes given that they attempt to stop a nation from trading with any other nation rather than ending trade with only the issuing nation, still do little in the way of properly targeting a nation’s military which means they have little strategic value on their own. If not at least supplemented by fortuitous circumstances in which a target nation will rely on a single route for sup- plies such as food (as seen with the First Anglo-Dutch War), one must at least properly anticipate and manage the targeted nation’s reaction to the blockade, which will be discussed in later chapters." Smuggling arms on the Lusitania was good, actually.
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China basically hasn't imposed counter sanctions on US business so far, but it doesn't mean it won't happen. Recently Beijing imposed "security reason" sanction on Micron, a memory maker. Since the US government treats semiconductor industry as part of the military industry, it will be treated that way by Beijing eventually, and the market will be decoupled. Same thing for rear earth. I think Beijing know there are many ways to use third partirs to get around the sanction, thats why there hasn't been any rear earth sanction against US. Unlike the West who treat oil sanction some kind of million bux idea.
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stephenthinkpad posted:China basically hasn't imposed counter sanctions on US business so far, but it doesn't mean it won't happen. Micron also lobbied heavily to get several Chinese companies put on the sanction list, I’ll let yo guess if they were directly competitors with Micron or not.
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Cerebral Bore posted:i don't want to be rude or anything, but i feel like circa 1910 isn't "a few years ago" anymore lol
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Frosted Flake posted:I'm sure if I pressed someone who works in that area, that is literally what they believe. There was a very influential book in Ottawa that was published a few years ago about how economic policy makes all forms of warfare, conventional or nuclear, obsolete. 
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GlassEye-Boy posted:Micron also lobbied heavily to get several Chinese companies put on the sanction list, I’ll let yo guess if they were directly competitors with Micron or not. Its still a good hustle for Micron. Because pushing your business sector into MIC has the potential of setting up for life. Of course until the next administration thinks buying memory chips from Samsung is good enough then you are hosed.
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Xpforr posted:This guy the author? Yes. A Note from the Author on the Second Edition The 1st edition of this book was written in 2011, and it was the first book I had ever written. Since that time, many things have happened. World events have taken a turn in which there has been a dramatic increase in the concern for, and application of, economics in combat situations. Many of these things offer a more modern look at the principles described throughout the 1st edition, while others offer clearer, less abstract examples of concepts which may, on their surface, seemed to be difficult to believe as having truly useful benefits. There are even brand new types of economic tactics being used today, offering us an opportunity for a wholly new chapter. It is not just the world that is new, either. Since the 1st edition of this book, I have been published many more times, and my writing has matured, primarily due to my improved understanding of what makes a good book. Despite the popularity of this book, still distributing roughly 3500 copies per year even 5 years after it was originally written, I consider this my 2nd worst book in terms of style (the worst being Analytics and Modern Warfare). So, while the purpose and structure of this 2nd edition will remain wholly true to the original, you will note that there are many changes to the book which incorporate clearer descriptions, better examples, and subtle improvements to the style of writing used.
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Xpforr posted:This guy the author? im gonna be honest, this may be one of the most reasonable and sensible things ive ever seen an 'economist' publish (it is a low bar, tho) this reads like a william gibson character's soliloquy: Frosted Flake posted:"If a thing has a system, then it can be systematically exploited. If there is effect, then causation can be engineered. If there is behavior, then influence can be applied. If one can see the puppet strings, then one can learn to pull them regardless of which side of them you’re on. Accept nothing. Fear less than nothing. There is rationality in all things. Even that which is irrational can be identified and measured for the degree to which it deviates from rationality. With no fear there is no need for bravery. Problem solving is the finest crusade; knowledge the only weapon necessary. Frosted Flake posted:Economics is unique in that, without exception, every action that any person takes will influence the external environment. Economists seek to identify, measure, and, when proper, control those influences. That is the heart of economic combat."
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Frosted Flake posted:"If a thing has a system, then it can be systematically exploited. If there is effect, then causation can be engineered. If there is behavior, then influence can be applied. If one can see the puppet strings, then one can learn to pull them regardless of which side of them you’re on. Accept nothing. Fear less than nothing. There is rationality in all things. Even that which is irrational can be identified and measured for the degree to which it deviates from rationality. With no fear there is no need for bravery. Problem solving is the finest crusade; knowledge the only weapon necessary. Economics is unique in that, without exception, every action that any person takes will influence the external environment. Economists seek to identify, measure, and, when proper, control those influences. That is the heart of economic combat." this reads like the villain speech before the boss battle of a jrpg
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poisonpill posted:this reads like the villain speech before the boss battle of a jrpg croup coughfield posted:no it doesnt hmm... 
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Cerebral Bore posted:hmm... he was the second hero of the game
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stephenthinkpad posted:China basically hasn't imposed counter sanctions on US business so far, but it doesn't mean it won't happen. China doesn’t need to impose sanctions. There are all sorts of “non sanction barriers” to trade they use. The Russians used to do that too but they each go about it in different ways. The cheese stuff from years back is a good way to think about the Russian way. that eventually turned into actual sanctions and a ban though. The Chinese way is more interesting, they’ll put the non sanction barriers up on the back end. I remember having to physically mail a report and pay duty on the invoice value for the report before payment could be issued. This was an internal invoice too, China subsidiary paying US subsidiary of the larger multinational corporation. Meanwhile the Chinese state owned client I invoiced didn’t have to do any of it. The state owned companies will also just pay out Chinese invoices or claims much faster. edit that’s an all the time thing though.
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JAY ZERO SUM GAME posted:I thought this was the good news thread War is bad. A wise man recently said "the most important thing is economic development". That's the why the Asia thread is good news.
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Delta-Wye posted:im gonna be honest, this may be one of the most reasonable and sensible things ive ever seen an 'economist' publish (it is a low bar, tho) 
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Delta-Wye posted:and im like gently caress, what the gently caress is this poo poo me as i count non-productive number sloshing as productive
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