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Residency Evil posted:Yeah, I have to agree. $25k is 47k today and the new ITS is absolutely $6k more car. 
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“Modern cars all look like electric shavers.”
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M4 with ADRO front end swap.   Before ADRO:  After ADRO: 
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Jun 21, 2023 15:47
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still bad
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Guinness posted:still bad
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It's fine but none of the aftermarket "upgrades" have been better than the original to my eyes.
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"Mom can we get a Mustang?" "We have a Mustang at home." The Mustang at home: trouser chili posted:M4 with ADRO front end swap.
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fknlo posted:It's fine but none of the aftermarket "upgrades" have been better than the original to my eyes. I agree and it’s really saying something because the original is truly an assault upon the senses. What a disappointing trajectory. Here’s hoping for a design shakeup if BMW sticks around in our lifetimes, otherwise it looks like a race to garbage. However I realize that it may be an “it’s the kids that are wrong” moment, the current BMW designs may be stronger sellers in which case this trend will continue.
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Q_res posted:Except it's not mid 40s, it's low 50s. Weren't we just saying that was in CAD and it's 40's in USD? If it's 50's in USD, that's too much.
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Residency Evil posted:Yeah, I have to agree. $25k is 47k today and the new ITS is absolutely $6k more car. you can just buy the ones that you liked still and pay like new car prices
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KillHour posted:Weren't we just saying that was in CAD and it's 40's in USD? If it's 50's in USD, that's too much. $52k American dollars, straight from the horse's mouth:  https://acuranews.com/en-US/releases/2024-acura-integra-type-s-pricing-announced-first-production-units-available-for-pre-order-may-11 In Canada, you're able to buy them for $44k American, but if you're in Canada you don't have USD.
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:you can just buy the ones that you liked still An E46/E90 M3 sounds like a terrible daily driver in Colorado in TYOOL 2023.
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trouser chili posted:M4 with ADRO front end swap. OEM is better.
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Mental Hospitality posted:Have car prices gotten out of control, or are we just poorer (wage stagnation relative to inflation/underpaid in general)? A mid 90's Integra GSR would have a 42,000USD sticker today if you adjusted its ~1994 price to current dollars, and that's a car with such luxury and performance features like a 170hp engine, cloth seats, aircon and 6 speaker radio/cassette.
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trouser chili posted:M4 with ADRO front end swap. This is just like arguing whether you'd rather be kicked in the balls by someone wearing regular sneakers or a pair of trail runners. Like yea they're not the same, but they're not really different either
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Residency Evil posted:An E46/E90 M3 sounds like a terrible daily driver in Colorado in TYOOL 2023. Why?
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Residency Evil posted:An E46/E90 M3 sounds like a terrible daily driver in Colorado in TYOOL 2023. My f80 was my daily for a year in Colorado. It’s very doable with winter tires. I have some pics in the bmw thread of it up at eldora in winter. My only real concern would have been getting stopped on either side of the Eisenhower tunnel in a good dumping and not being able to move again. If you go into the mountains a lot in winter I wouldn’t but it’s cool and fine otherwise.
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trouser chili posted:M4 with ADRO front end swap. These new Pontiacs look terrible.
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Seems pretty obvious. E46 M3s are 20+ years old at this point and are at the point that they have 20+ year old/150k mile+ car problems. Those cars also went through the depreciation low point, with the deferred maintenance/etc that went along with that. The "good" cars I would feel bad for using as a daily driver and not saving for nice days. Presumably I don't see too many on the road for those reasons. fknlo posted:My f80 was my daily for a year in Colorado. It’s very doable with winter tires. I have some pics in the bmw thread of it up at eldora in winter. My only real concern would have been getting stopped on either side of the Eisenhower tunnel in a good dumping and not being able to move again. If you go into the mountains a lot in winter I wouldn’t but it’s cool and fine otherwise. Yeah an F80 would be a great daily, although like you pointed out, something with more ground clearance is nice for the mountains. Residency Evil fucked around with this message at 19:27 on Jun 21, 2023 |
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I don't have data but it feels like one reason new car prices have escalated is that manufacturers are abandoning the low end market. Why try to make a profit selling a $20k car that has to compete against an used off-lease RAV4?
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trouser chili posted:M4 with ADRO front end swap. That’s just the old Dodge crosshair grille.
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Zorak of Michigan posted:I don't have data but it feels like one reason new car prices have escalated is that manufacturers are abandoning the low end market. Why try to make a profit selling a $20k car that has to compete against an used off-lease RAV4? Friend, an off-lease RAV4 doesn't cost $20,000, it costs $36,000 USD:  I believe that you will find this to be a "Great Deal".
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Twerk from Home posted:I believe that you will find this to be a "Great Deal". Ignore everything I said. I give up. Cars are closed.
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Residency Evil posted:Seems pretty obvious. E46 M3s are 20+ years old at this point and are at the point that they have 20+ year old/150k mile+ car problems. Those cars also went through the depreciation low point, with the deferred maintenance/etc that went along with that. The "good" cars I would feel bad for using as a daily driver and not saving for nice days. i mean there's SOME risk but it's not all that much and the problems are easily solved with money, which you probably have if you are considering a new BMW
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KYOON GRIFFEY JR posted:i mean there's SOME risk but it's not all that much and the problems are easily solved with money, which you probably have if you are considering a new BMW Sure, it just depends on what your criteria are for a daily driver. For me, I place a higher value on not worrying about it starting every day, being reliable, and not worrying about tiny things breaking over things like driving dynamics and performance. I have a second car where I can prioritize those other things and I'm ok with it being less reliable. An E46/E90 M3 is kind of in this awkward spot where it's getting a bit too old for me to really consider seriously using as a daily driver and realistically isn't a great option (even with winter tires) for traveling to the mountains with. Obviously YMMV 
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0toShifty posted:That’s just the old Dodge crosshair grille. My brain said Dodge too
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Guinness posted:still fuckin ugly.
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Eurobeat intensifies. https://www.caranddriver.com/news/a44281910/2024-toyota-gr86-trueno-edition-revealed
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McTinkerson posted:Eurobeat intensifies. drat that's rad unless it's super expensive. Anniversary editiona were being marked way up so
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We're in here debating if low $50s is too much for a FWD Japanese sport compact car, when the actual price to buy said car is $75k.
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I'm trying to find compassion in my heart for anyone who would pay that price, but friends, it's a struggle.
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You can get a RWD manual transmission CT4-V Blackwing with 472 hp, the Corvette's e-diff and magride for less than that. poo poo you might even be able to get a C8 for that.
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$3000 gets you a REALLY nice set of rims, what's the betting these are the bog standard cheap looking diamond faced 2 tone shits that get supplied on every single car these days.
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Disgruntled Bovine posted:You can get a RWD manual transmission CT4-V Blackwing with 472 hp, the Corvette's e-diff and magride for less than that. You're at base M3 territory too. Or an M2 with options if you're into that melted lego look.
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Can you get a Blackwing or corvette without adm though? Alex just put out a vid with 3 special edition GR toyotas that you won't be able to get. At least with an m2 or m3, those are available with minimal markups from what I understand, certainly a waitlist.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OEmI1cp-KBg Don't think anyone's surprised that Nissan's doing this, but always nice to get confirmation. New bumper style is much improved over the regular one. Curious what the power figures will be.
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