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Endorph posted:Incidentally, about Ryoshu's new EGO - she's a Spider Bud from LobCorp. tbf who gets what EGO seems to be mostly arbitrary outside of story-related stuff like Rime Shank and Legerdemain
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Yinlock posted:tbf who gets what EGO seems to be mostly arbitrary outside of story-related stuff like Rime Shank and Legerdemain Not really. For most characters we don't know because we haven't fully seen their stories, but you can generally see how an EGOs motif applies to a character. Except maybe Lifetime Stew.
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GiantRockFromSpace posted:Not really. For most characters we don't know because we haven't fully seen their stories, but you can generally see how an EGOs motif applies to a character. Except maybe Lifetime Stew. Gregor's EGO selection is entirely "would it be cool to make an arm out of this" Faust also gets Telepole for some reason. And 4th Match Flame seems to have been handed out randomly as an aside if you want to see the least-effort EGO animation in the entire game check out Rodion's match flame. HE my rear end e: this isn't a complaint mind you, just saying that you can't really tell anything definite about a character from what EGO they have Yinlock fucked around with this message at 14:35 on Jun 21, 2023 |
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Yinlock posted:Gregor's EGO selection is entirely "would it be cool to make an arm out of this" Gregor is actually the worst character to make this argument with because his two additional EGO are all about his inability to control the hunger and parasitism inherent in his mutant arm. Also how much he hates it but cannot get rid of it.
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Lord_Magmar posted:Gregor is actually the worst character to make this argument with because his two additional EGO are all about his inability to control the hunger and parasitism inherent in his mutant arm. Also how much he hates it but cannot get rid of it. In those cases the specific EGO matters less than the arm itself, which is the point because the his murder bug arm colors everything he does and he can't escape it.
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Yinlock posted:In those cases the specific EGO matters less than the arm itself, which is the point because the his murder bug arm colors everything he does and he can't escape it. The EGO both come from Abnormalities that present something helpful and good hiding something destructive, hungering and monstrous. Which is the whole bit of Gregor willingly joining the G Corp experiments thinking they'd do something good for him, only to instead leave him traumatised and a monster. Also the bit about him being the poster boy for G Corp and tricking others into joining only for them to be even worse mutated. Gregor absolutely is able to resonate with the Golden Apple and the Faelantern might be an aberration of the Fairy Festival or Meat Lantern Abnormalities. Also the story has been pretty clear that you have to somehow resonate with the abnormality to use its EGO even with the mirror stuff. Lord_Magmar fucked around with this message at 14:51 on Jun 21, 2023 |
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gently caress i was gonna edit the post with an example but got distracted. anyways: Like for example, if we take 4th Match Flame, which is an EGO for Yi Sang, Ryoshu and Rodion. Scorched Girl is an abno that represents wishing for a better future, only for your hopes and dreams to be blown up, maybe by yourself. -For Yi Sang, it probably represents how his hopes and dreams of his youth were burned due to the creation of the mirror. -For Rodion, it clearly matches with how she killed the tax collector to help her people only for them to be killed. -And for Ryoshu... no idea, cause we don't know her full deal yet! That's the point. But we can make assumptions. Ishmael clearly has Pink Shoes and Ardor Blossom Moth for a reason (both being related to obsession that binds you/burns you to death).
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Fair enough, you guys make some good points and I was just being kinda stubborn about it
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Yinlock posted:Fair enough, you guys make some good points and I was just being kinda stubborn about it To be fair, telling specific things about a character based on the EGO isn't really easy, it's more the other way around. You can use knowledge of the character to work out how a given EGO resonates with them.
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I mean, yes, they just handed Fourth Match Flame to everyone who's depressed* and the Faust Telepole connection is loose**, but it's not like it's completely arbitrary. Even if they were making decisions purely based on vibes, they've been largely successful at making those vibes fit and you can mine some good takes on these characters from them. *Yi Sang? Depressed, we had a whole chapter about it. Rodion? Depressed and self-medicating with a gambling addiction. Ryoshu? You've seen the art for Forest for the Flames, no one who isn't processing grief badly lays down like that. **Overall, Telepole's vibes in general are that the user has a mystique from a distance, but when you look closer they're suffering and being arbitrarily jerked around by some kind of higher force out of their control. Don's controlled by heroic delusions, Heathcliff has searing anger issues, etc. But "what is Faust's deal?" seems like one of the long-term mysteries that Limbus is going to take its time unraveling, so right now all we can do is make allusions to the play and go "uh... lightning could be knowledge, which Faust seems to value above all else???".
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Lurks With Wolves posted:I mean, yes, they just handed Fourth Match Flame to everyone who's depressed* and the Faust Telepole connection is loose**, but it's not like it's completely arbitrary. Even if they were making decisions purely based on vibes, they've been largely successful at making those vibes fit and you can mine some good takes on these characters from them. Faust seem to follow the trope of the intelligent character that MUST discover something/occupy themselve because otherwise they get bored and everyone suffer from it. Maybe controlled by her desire to be all-knowing/keeping the façade of a genius?
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Yinlock posted:Also possible is that she's just her own Thing and doesn't really fall into either classification I'm more referring to being charismatic enough to recruit people like kali (and most of the rest of the team). like even if her morals were still intact there was absolutely something going on there. also the cogito thing like i would not be surprised if she was making cogito while she was alive and walking around somehow
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being charismatic enough to attract like a dozen people to your cause isn't a sinister super power lol
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I just figured Rodya got FMF because she wanted out of the cold enough to bash someone's head in with an axe. 
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Ryoshu also has a special thing with FMF: Her resonance with it is such that it operates at a higher level compared to everyone else. She's obviously really got a thing for fire, like Pyrophilia or something.
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TeeQueue posted:I just figured Rodya got FMF because she wanted out of the cold enough to bash someone's head in with an axe. And here I thought the cold never bothered her anyway. 
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I mean, I'd assume Ryoshu has 4th Match Flame because in the story she's based on her daughter burns to death while she watches
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Yinlock posted:why is he like this he's ideal
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Not to mention Ryoshu is veeery likely to be a former member of the Ring, given the Five Fingers in her EGO art and promo, and her artisty vibe which checks with the original story.
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YES bread posted:being charismatic enough to attract like a dozen people to your cause isn't a sinister super power lol hell dongbaek had a whole terrorist organization and her(surface-level) cause was total nonsense e: KobunFan posted:Ryoshu also has a special thing with FMF: Her resonance with it is such that it operates at a higher level compared to everyone else. She's obviously really got a thing for fire, like Pyrophilia or something. The animation is like 2 seconds but Rodion's is also HE. Yi Sang is the only one stuck with TETH e2: speaking of EGO theming shoutouts to Yi Sang for sticking to his Sloth guns for the most part, 4th is Wrath but still has a point of Sloth thrown in and Dimension Shredder is Sloth/Gluttony-based despite being a Pride EGO Yinlock fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Jun 22, 2023 |
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Yinlock posted:hell dongbaek had a whole terrorist organization and her(surface-level) cause was total nonsense past tense because she was murdered by a funny man in a Hawaiian shirt, a cannibal chef, and a man in a rabbit hat
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Something I just noticed is that in the fanfiction community, before the Dante Notes explained their sleeping arrangement, people just figured it out that the sinner slept in the bus or in hotel, so PM just deciding to add a whole pocket dimension similar to the Backroom is pretty hilarious to me.
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So, one thing I wanted to point out: It's actually Don, of all people, who notices/guesses that Dongrang's Distorting. Do you think she's seen it happen before to a friend? Maybe she distorted, but Moses saved her, and that's why she idolizes Fixers so much?
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L.U.I.G.I posted:Something I just noticed is that in the fanfiction community, before the Dante Notes explained their sleeping arrangement, people just figured it out that the sinner slept in the bus or in hotel, so PM just deciding to add a whole pocket dimension similar to the Backroom is pretty hilarious to me. But was there only one bed?
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Junpei posted:So, one thing I wanted to point out: It's actually Don, of all people, who notices/guesses that Dongrang's Distorting. Do you think she's seen it happen before to a friend? Maybe she distorted, but Moses saved her, and that's why she idolizes Fixers so much? don't be silly, without the full library you can't save a distortio- [funny chicken sideplot] -- DropTheAnvil posted:I don't know if Mili is doing a call back to one of their other songs Camelia in the song lyrics you posted above. This one, I assume. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wOcCu31oi7Q Gonna have to listen to more but it's a VERY different song but... provisionally is related, I guess? Proto-theory: Mili is, in this song, coming at the camelia flower and its petals from the basically opposite direction from Spicebush. respect to the instrumental folks on this one e: and i mean i'll never disrespect an accordionist, every single one is an insane music person and that's worth respecting Goatse James Bond fucked around with this message at 08:18 on Jun 22, 2023 |
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Countzer posted:https://twitter.com/LimbusCompany_B/status/1671057251694682113 Glad to see a K Corp. ID at last, as well as another classic E.G.O. BTW, am I the only one who thinks that N Corp. now has more competition for the title of "Worst Wing", now that we've seen a Nest that is so bad the Backstreets seem appealing?
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Quackles posted:But was there only one bed? BUT THERE WAS ONLY ONE BED!
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Lunatic 0verlord posted:BTW, am I the only one who thinks that N Corp. now has more competition for the title of "Worst Wing", now that we've seen a Nest that is so bad the Backstreets seem appealing? As a resident, K Corp still seems pretty appealing, tho? There's the risk of the higher up deciding hey this would make a great snuff film if you get in serious poo poo, yeah, but most of the suffering is frontloaded by their singularity?
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Marluxia posted:As a resident, K Corp still seems pretty appealing, tho? There's the risk of the higher up deciding hey this would make a great snuff film if you get in serious poo poo, yeah, but most of the suffering is frontloaded by their singularity? I'm pretty sure they're referring to T Corp. Which tracks, T Corp is very invested in being The Worst™ in every PM game
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I would have thought that a Wing would make their Nest relatively more appealing to lure Feathers there. I wonder if the awful conditions in the Nest are related to T Corp's singularity the same way that the the whole deal with minimum damage before ampule dispenser turned out to be yet another way for K corp to milk suffering.
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Junpei posted:So, one thing I wanted to point out: It's actually Don, of all people, who notices/guesses that Dongrang's Distorting. Do you think she's seen it happen before to a friend? Maybe she distorted, but Moses saved her, and that's why she idolizes Fixers so much? Apparently Ishamael and Don are former fixers so she's almost definitely seen some stuff. Though my own personal guess is that she's actually the oldest of the Sinners and possibly even a former color.
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She's definitely older than she looks. Between the genuine offense she seems to take when mistaken for a child and her both calling Sinclair "young" and talking about her fondness for youth, I don't even think they've made it especially subtle.
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Don getting upset at being called a kid actually makes her look more young and immature. shes just a dumbass who talks weird, and if she were a color she wouldnt be getting her poo poo kicked in the same as all the other sinners
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Don being secretly a powerful fixer would be kind at odds with the fact she's based on Quixote, a character whose main trait was being delusional, overestimating his abilities and being constantly beaten up. She could be older than she appears though. The only sinner ages we really know are that Gregor is 35 due to some background that was ripped, nd that Sinclair is probably around 20 since you need to be that age to be a fixer and he's the youngest of the bunch. GiantRockFromSpace fucked around with this message at 17:46 on Jun 22, 2023 |
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Junpei posted:So, one thing I wanted to point out: It's actually Don, of all people, who notices/guesses that Dongrang's Distorting. Do you think she's seen it happen before to a friend? Maybe she distorted, but Moses saved her, and that's why she idolizes Fixers so much? Considering the time she mentioned how her old allies would beat the poo poo out of her when she was out of control, my guess is that Don herself was on the verge of Distorting at some point, but never fully tipped over to the point of either going full Distortion or getting an actual EGO.
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Theantero posted:I'm pretty sure they're referring to T Corp. Yeah, I was referring to T Corp. gently caress these backwards Pinkertons.
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YES bread posted:Don getting upset at being called a kid actually makes her look more young and immature. shes just a dumbass who talks weird, and if she were a color she wouldnt be getting her poo poo kicked in the same as all the other sinners GiantRockFromSpace posted:Don being secretly a powerful fixer would be kind at odds with the fact she's based on Quixote, a character whose main trait was being delusional, overestimating his abilities and being constantly beaten up. It's been said that the process of becoming a sinner has made all of them less than what they were, so it doesn't seem incongruent there. As for clashing with the Don Quixote source material it doesn't seem that way to me. Don Quixote is a criticism of chivalry, not power. The main delusion of this Don is about fixer's being virtuous which lines up with the original's take on chivalry.
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SITB posted:I would have thought that a Wing would make their Nest relatively more appealing to lure Feathers there. I wonder if the awful conditions in the Nest are related to T Corp's singularity the same way that the the whole deal with minimum damage before ampule dispenser turned out to be yet another way for K corp to milk suffering. I was sure this was what the WARP Trains were for, though. And I don't know how making everyone miserable would correlate with time, either. The only reasons I can think of is that T Corp. is either run by sadistic assholes who get kicks out of making everyone in their Nest miserable for the Evulz, OR that the misery of those in their Nest is part of a deal with ANOTHER Wing whose Singularity is fueled by misery and crushed hopes... And I swear that if it turns out to be the latter and the Wing they're making a deal with turns out to be N Corp....well...I would say they're BOTH equally as hosed up and in need of being clipped.
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