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TVs Ian posted:The 1st gen mostly was, but the iPhone 3G is when they started doing subsidies, and it wasn't 3x the cost of a Blackberry or Windows CE phone anymore. The iPhone 4 is when it stopped being AT&T exclusive and Verizon picked it up, then Sprint got the 4S, so roughly 2010 is when it opened up to a lot more people. Spring 2010 was also when the OG Motorola Droid, arguably the first mainstream Android phone, was released.
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Willa Rogers posted:Boomers are way too savvy (and too cheap) to spend $15 in fees to deliver $10 of fast food. Wow, really puts a new spin on Cyrano de Bergerac and Steve Martin's Roxanne. Furthermore, I'm an Xer who's utterly baffled that anyone would ever use DoorDash, etc for anything other than a super-rare edge case. Brave New World fucked around with this message at 22:08 on Jun 22, 2023 |
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In fact, it's a hot topic of discussion (and disbelief) at the boomer bbq's & happy hours.
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Brave New World posted:Wow, really puts a new spin on Cyrano de Bergerac and Steve Martin's Roxanne. Look, sometimes you just want fresh baked cookies delivered to your house at 2 AM.
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Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:What do you mean by in-transit losses? They are being damaged during transit? Lost during transit? Stolen during transit? Yes. Leon Trotsky 2012 posted:And to such a level that it is causing shortages that didn't previously exist? For specific drugs or in general? Yes. But I only see my sliver. And it’s not like I can be specific in any way for you unfortunately.
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Brave New World posted:. It really takes the drama and urgency out of pregnancy cravings.
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If you can get a free month of Doordash/Uber Eats Premium or whatever they call it then it becomes "worth it" to actually use because this typically means no delivery fees + no/reduced service fees, dropping the price down to about par with dining in (plus some extra for the convenience). Without the premium feature though it's really not worth using.
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I mean it makes perfect sense from the perspective of an above average earner who considers their time is worth more than the 15-20 bucks more that they're paying. And I'm sure plenty of average or below average workers would like to get some fast hot food without having to leave the house as well. I don't think it's some unknowable as to why it's popular, it's just wildly unethical to the workers and the side effects are a massive pain in the rear end to society at large, regardless of the benefits to the people who choose to use the services.
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Boris Galerkin posted:If you can get a free month of Doordash/Uber Eats Premium or whatever they call it then it becomes "worth it" to actually use because this typically means no delivery fees + no/reduced service fees, dropping the price down to about par with dining in (plus some extra for the convenience). Without the premium feature though it's really not worth using. I dunno, even with zero fees the tip plus the premium in-app pricing makes it a lot more expensive anyway. The ones that support group payment are a godsend though. Now hosting duty is just texting the group link.
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Yeah, I use it occasionally because I get the premium subscription free with one of my credit cards. Even with that it's still never a good deal and makes me feel bad for kicking off the Rube Goldberg machine of human misery every time I want a hot chicken sandwich and I'm too drunk to drive.
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Boris Galerkin posted:If you can get a free month of Doordash/Uber Eats Premium or whatever they call it then it becomes "worth it" to actually use because this typically means no delivery fees + no/reduced service fees, dropping the price down to about par with dining in (plus some extra for the convenience). Without the premium feature though it's really not worth using. There are very few foods where the extra time doesn’t cause a problem. And a lot of those already had delivery before door dash. People door dashing sushi makes me cry.
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 I looked up some stats.From 2019 (before the great reset era):   I'm guessing the low-income thing is bc of correlating with age, or having mommy & daddy's credit card. I've never even heard of three of the top 5, including the most popular:  (https://www.businessofapps.com/data/food-delivery-app-market/) More in next post.
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Fork of Unknown Origins posted:There are very few foods where the extra time doesn’t cause a problem. And a lot of those already had delivery before door dash. Yeah whenever I do use a delivery app I order stuff that doesn’t matter if it gets cold, which for me seems to be 99% vegetarian Indian foods. I don’t eat meat but even if I did I don’t think I’d order meat like a burger or something cause it’ll just sit there in someone’s car forever.
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My small city has gone "Ooops! All Sysco-sourced 'New American'" so I barely ever eat out because I can cook my own food that is cheaper and doesn't suck rear end. I think a lot of routine eating out/ordering in is really about the reduced mental strain, rather than any actual time savings (I don't intend any shade with that).
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Oh yah: Another reason boomers don't like food delivery that much is bc going to a restaurant to eat in for date night or girls night out is still a thing. *** quote:
https://appsthatdeliver.com/insights/food-delivery-statistics/
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Willa Rogers posted:Oh yah: Another reason boomers don't like food delivery that much is bc going to a restaurant to eat in for date night or girls night out is still a thing. Are dinner dates not a thing for non boomers?
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Blue Footed Booby posted:Are dinner dates not a thing for non boomers? Idk but those stats said most millies like to netflix & grub. I don't know of any boomers who do that, other than the occasional pizza night.
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At this point we don't spend money on prepared food unless we go to a nice happy hour somewhere. We have like 20 restaurants 5 min away with amazing happy hours and mid-high end food. I don't have nearly the appetite I used to so unless it's super fancy, nearly everything outside of happy hour has insane portions. A couple of decent cocktails and a small plate or two is ideal. I'm an older millennial though so I guess I might as well be a boomer for the purposes of this discussion. Most of the week we still Netflix and grub, except instead of ordering food I cook it
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Willa Rogers posted:Idk but those stats said most millies like to netflix & grub. I don't know of any boomers who do that, other than the occasional pizza night. Millennials are a lot more likely to have young kids at home than boomers. Taking kids to a restaurant is often pretty terrible, and finding a babysitter is expensive and a problem unto itself.
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Fork of Unknown Origins posted:Millennials are a lot more likely to have young kids at home than boomers. Taking kids to a restaurant is often pretty terrible, and finding a babysitter is expensive and a problem unto itself. Good point! Given the choice for $50 for food delivery or $50 for restaurant + $50 for a sitter it's definitely the wiser choice for those who have the money to do so.
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I think in many cases whatever grub hub/door dash/ delivery fee there is gonna still come out to be cheaper than child care for a date night. I know many millennials didn’t breed but a lot of us in that age group did. We wouldn’t use that on fast food though, I imagine that’s more for the blazed and hungry demographic. E: beaten
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I would probably order more delivery but I live in a loft condo and once I’ve put on shoes and gone down 5 stories to get a delivery I might as well just drive to the drat place.
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Restaurants are expensive as gently caress.
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The use of fatality data only is a bit misleading. At least from looking at Washington State data, vehicle accident rates are actually down significantly across the board since covid, even for things like distracted driving. however fatalities were still notably increased. So overall people are safer drivers - for what reason, I'm not sure. Possibly it's just that they're driving less. But the drivers that do get into accidents are just killing people at much higher rates.
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:The use of fatality data only is a bit misleading. At least from looking at Washington State data, vehicle accident rates are actually down significantly across the board since covid, even for things like distracted driving. As someone else said, I really think it's all the giant loving trucks A standard F150 is loving massive
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TheDeadlyShoe posted:The use of fatality data only is a bit misleading. At least from looking at Washington State data, vehicle accident rates are actually down significantly across the board since covid, even for things like distracted driving. Now do pedestrian deaths.
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Willa Rogers posted:Now do pedestrian deaths.
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Elder Millennial here. Wife and I used food delivery apps during the Pandemic because 1. We had “essential” in person jobs 2. We often did 10+ hour days 3. We are dinks with computer touching jobs 4. We lived in a anti-mask red state Getting food delivered no contact was great. Grocery shopping sucked because half the people didn’t social distance and since I was often in a meeting with a guy who got sent home (we only did 1 step tracing) I didn’t feel like being close to anyone, let alone frail looking no mask grandpa. Three years will get you in the habit of something. We’re getting back to cooking now, or just picking it up ourselves.
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30s and I use food delivery cause I don't drive and occasionally I want junk food/restaurant food. There are places to walk to nearby, but they're not always what im in the mood for, and either dining in alone or doing the there-and-back is obviously not the same as being able to be lazy and having food brought to me in a thermal bag. Alctel posted:As someone else said, I really think it's all the giant loving trucks
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Manager Hoyden posted:I dunno, even with zero fees the tip plus the premium in-app pricing makes it a lot more expensive anyway. Uber Eats shoves a bunch of 40% off (up to $15, min order $25) promotions at people on the app. So if you order food for 3 people, or get a large pizza for leftovers the next day, it works out to under $30 including all taxes, fees and tip. I've even compared prices to the website of the locations and they're usually the same. You may miss out on a lunchtime special here or there but otherwise it's 3-4 meals for under 30 bucks. Which, 5 years ago wow that sucks. Now? Not bad trevorreznik fucked around with this message at 01:35 on Jun 23, 2023 |
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I'm a month away from 39 and disabled, so I can't drive. So I do use Uber / Lyft to get rides to and from the grocery store.
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Oxyclean posted:Yeah, the size, and more importantly the height, just really fucks with safety profiles. Not to mention higher center of gravity sort of translates to them not even being particularly safe for the driver either. Does the USA have the same weird obsession with pickup trucks that Canada does? You can barely find a small compact car for sale these days, just used car lots full of pickups and large SUVs. I know part of it is policy and how we (both you guys and us) build cities to require driving, but the reason giant pickups have filled that role for so many is beyond me. Are car salesmen evil and involved in all levels of politics down there like they are up here too?
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Furnaceface posted:Does the USA have the same weird obsession with pickup trucks that Canada does? You can barely find a small compact car for sale these days, just used car lots full of pickups and large SUVs. Everyone knows the bigger your car the more manly you are, and the US is full of very manly men.
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Furnaceface posted:Are car salesmen evil and involved in all levels of politics down there like they are up here too? Correct.
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Furnaceface posted:Does the USA have the same weird obsession with pickup trucks that Canada does? You can barely find a small compact car for sale these days, just used car lots full of pickups and large SUVs. US manufacturers have mostly abandoned regular sedans. It’s SUVs, trucks, and the occasional sports car. You can still get Japanese or German sedans, but GM and Ford abandoned those lines a while ago. Americans generally want to drive taller cars, and unfortunately there’s a little bit of a feedback loop with that. If most other cars on the road are big, you’re going to feel less safe in a smaller and shorter car.
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Earlier this week/month when we were talking about inflation numbers one of the drivers was restaurant foods and I'm wondering if a large portion of that increase is people ordering in more than they used to with food delivery services combined with restaurants in general raising their prices to match what people are more are more used to paying online. Wages for fast food/food service work in general are also increasing faster than almost any other sector so I'm sure that's driving prices up, no one is getting out of bed for less than $12/hr these days even in my low cost of living city and that's way more than what a shift leader was making before the pandemic. e: re: pick ups vs small cars, the number one driver in north america is that pick up trucks and SUVs have vastly higher profit margins compared to sedans and other traditional cars. It's why Ford basically does not have any traditional 2/4 door coupes/sedans in their line up anymore. They're all crossovers, SUVs, trucks and sports cars. Gas is relatively cheap and parking is ample so there's not much of a downside to the typical person owning a fuckoff huge truck that will get used at best once or twice a year for its nominal intended purpose. rscott fucked around with this message at 02:14 on Jun 23, 2023 |
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Part of it is self-perpetuating, too. My parents aren't big tough manly folks who have a personal attachment to giant vehicles or particularly need a lot of storage space, but they're both terrified of being in a normal sized vehicle with the ten billion tank-sized F150s on the road driven by maniacs so they both refuse to drive anything smaller than an SUV because it makes them feel safer.
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Bird in a Blender posted:If most other cars on the road are big, you’re going to feel less safe in a smaller and shorter car. Only if one is a literal coward. There is no excuse for owning these large vehicles and anyone who does should be reminded constantly how they contribute to the death of the planet and those that live on it. A tattoo of the word “shame” across the forehead would not be enough. (USER WAS PUT ON PROBATION FOR THIS POST)
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virtualboyCOLOR posted:Only if one is a literal coward. There is no excuse for owning these large vehicles and anyone who does should be reminded constantly how they contribute to the death of the planet and those that live on it. A tattoo of the word “shame” across the forehead would not be enough. Except you are less safe in a smaller car if you get into a collision with a bigger car. https://www.iihs.org/topics/vehicle-size-and-weight quote:IIHS demonstrated the role of size and weight in a series of crash tests in 2019, pairing a midsize SUV and small car made by Kia and a large car and minicar made by Toyota in collisions with each other. Both of the smaller vehicles, the 2018 Kia Forte and 2018 Toyota Yaris iA, had good ratings in the five IIHS tests relevant to driver protection, but they performed poorly in collisions with the larger vehicles. Now if everyone drove small cars this wouldn’t be an issue. Once all your neighbors start driving bigger cars, then the story changes.
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