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I saw an interview with Emilia Clarke for Secret Invasion and she made it pretty clear that she has no interest in playing Qira (pretty sure there's a random apostrophe in there but gently caress it) again, which is kind of a shame. That should settle any chances of a Solo sequel. I'm probably one of very few in here that would be happy to see more of em.
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Very depressing to watch Vim go through the same basic emotional arc that I did (except I liked Luke. Yeah, I admit it. The old nerd graybeard bait hooked me.)
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Jun 21, 2023 16:09
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Vim Fuego posted:o god luke's face Welcome to the party! (I love Mando, including season 3, I disagree with the average thread opinion on that one. Tons of fun. But holy poo poo, can I not defend CGI puppet Luke. He bad.)
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Jun 21, 2023 18:48
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I think CG Luke looks pretty good just in a vacuum, but the mocap performance is weirdly stiff, maybe because they feel like the illusion is broken if he shows any expression. Anyway I don’t love the decision to drag Luke into the plot of the show, but when they set up the “finding Grogu’s clan” plot line at the end of S1 they basically wrote a check that he was showing up at the end of that plotline. Once you set it in motion, you can’t have some mook like Kyle Katarn or Cal Cestis or Ezra Bridger be the guy who steps off that shuttle at the end.
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Jun 21, 2023 19:00
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General Dog posted:I think CG Luke looks pretty good just in a vacuum, but the mocap performance is weirdly stiff, maybe because they feel like the illusion is broken if he shows any expression. True, Luke had to show up, but you could recast him. Hell, the guy they got to play him on set is a decent look-alike, though who knows if he can act. 
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Jun 21, 2023 19:05
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  Graham Hamilton's basically spot-on looks-wise
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I mean it's not like Hamill is a top level actor either, or that role of Luke Skywalker space wizard would require it
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Mark Hamill is a very cool guy that I would love to meet someday. But a great actor he really never was
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thrawn527 posted:Welcome to the party! Manderlorian succeeds because the first three and last three episodes are great. Few shows both start that strong and stick the landing. The issue is that it‘s only got about two seasons’ worth of material, which they padded like crazy with dumb poo poo.
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However you feel about the 'sovereign citizen hiding at the end of the galaxy's most nonsensical treasure map' direction they went writing the character in the sequels, hamill performed the hell out of it. Certainly he was better than any of the other legacy actors except maybe harrison, and personally I think he was better than harrison. If anything he's just held back by lack of screen time in the non 8s
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Yeah I'll back you up on that, Mark Hamill doesn't have to be a good actor, but he is. TLJ actually made me regretful that his movie career ended up the way it did. At least he gets to be the Joker.
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Yeah, I agree too: he is good in TLJ But he aint a great actor, either in the OT, or in most of his career out of star wars
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Elias_Maluco posted:Yeah, I agree too: he is good in TLJ A more wrong statement has never been uttered
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Vinylshadow posted:
I think this moment is what prompted him to say "just recast me". He's right, it's totally fine if someone else plays the role. I really wish they'd just pick a new "young Luke" person and run with that rather than constantly distracting people with assessing how good the deepfake is. Elias_Maluco posted:Yeah, I agree too: he is good in TLJ I think he's enjoyable in other roles he's played, and I think he was great in TLJ. He wasn't great in the OT, but in the face of less-than-stellar directing and writing and not being a detraction is some kind of achievement. Nobody says "The OT was great except for Mark Hamill's acting". I mean, maybe someone does, but that's not the prevailing opinion.
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thrawn527 posted:True, Luke had to show up, but you could recast him. Hell, the guy they got to play him on set is a decent look-alike, though who knows if he can act. They really should have cast Sebastian Stan as the new Luke. He can act, he has the star power and he looks pretty similar to Mark Hamill. Especially in Fresh.
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Captain Jesus posted:They really should have cast Sebastian Stan as the new Luke. He can act, he has the star power and he looks pretty similar to Mark Hamill. Especially in Fresh. I can only ever think of Sebastian Stan as the Ski Patrol bully from Hot Tub Time Machine 
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If they weren't willing to recast Tarkin there's no way in hell they'll ever recast the main characters.
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Bogus Adventure posted:I can only ever think of Sebastian Stan as the Ski Patrol bully from Hot Tub Time Machine My lasting mental image of Sebastian Stan is as an emotionally stunted kid who went on a sniper shooting spree during an episode of Law & Order. 
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Timby posted:My lasting mental image of Sebastian Stan is as an emotionally stunted kid who went on a sniper shooting spree during an episode of Law & Order. lol, didn't know about that one
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YaketySass posted:If they weren't willing to recast Tarkin there's no way in hell they'll ever recast the main characters. The implication/threat is that these characters can and will show up again. Actors age and in 30 years you have to recast Luke again. This way, you can have Luke forever. Forever.
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Grendels Dad posted:The implication/threat is that these characters can and will show up again. Actors age and in 30 years you have to recast Luke again. This way, you can have Luke forever. Rogue One is such a ghastly film. It has CGI Tarkin and CGI Young Leia, which may have been what pushed Carrie over the edge. 
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Jun 22, 2023 10:36
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Luke Skywalker wasn't exactly a demanding role. His true talents clearly were always in voice acting.
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Timby posted:My lasting mental image of Sebastian Stan is as an emotionally stunted kid who went on a sniper shooting spree during an episode of Law & Order. 
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Talking and Leia in Rogue One were pretty transparently tech demos and Disney seeing reception and what they could get away with. At that time, Star Wars was guaranteed money and they could course correct how they needed to.
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YaketySass posted:If they weren't willing to recast Tarkin there's no way in hell they'll ever recast the main characters. They recast Han Solo after not recasting Tarkin. Assepoester posted:We all know what Sebastian Stan's best role was I forgot about that underappreciated gem.
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Darko posted:Talking and Leia in Rogue One were pretty transparently tech demos and Disney seeing reception and what they could get away with. At that time, Star Wars was guaranteed money and they could course correct how they needed to. True, and it was also about 1 year before Deepfake came out. They did that poo poo the really hard way, with full 3d models of the young/dead actor, instead of just finding an "almost there" doppleganger and mapping a face on it. It does look terrible, although Tron:Legacy (also Disney) takes the cake for "young actor uncanny" IMO
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RE: Tron, others have said and I mostly agree that it works inside the machine but the intro is really loving weird. Movie still rocks though. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tXtUhYEJrUE THE GRID
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Speaking of, I just watched the original Tron for the first time recently. It actually holds up fairly well though for some reason I'd always been under the impression that the main human character was a kid rather than an adult programmerElias_Maluco posted:Mark Hamill is a very cool guy that I would love to meet someday. He's a better VA than a physical actor in my opinon Larryb fucked around with this message at 17:16 on Jun 22, 2023 |
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Larryb posted:Speaking of, I just watched the original Tron for the first time recently. It actually holds up fairly well though for some reason I'd always been under the impression that the main human character was a kid rather than an adult programmer There was a brief moment in the early 80s when grown-rear end people were playing arcade games, like it was a pool hall or something. My friend's dad (then in his 30s) could basically play Pac-Man forever. All us little kids would hoot and holler around the machine for 3 minutes or so until we got bored and wandered off.
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Megaman's Jockstrap posted:There was a brief moment in the early 80s when grown-rear end people were playing arcade games, like it was a pool hall or something. My friend's dad (then in his 30s) could basically play Pac-Man forever. All us little kids would hoot and holler around the machine for 3 minutes or so until we got bored and wandered off. Yeah, though to be fair my only knowledge of the film prior to actually seeing it was a few brief plot snippets and Kingdom Hearts (which is not a very good first introduction to the Tron franchise in retrospect)
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Oh no that's fine, I just wanted to add a little cultural context to this. It was a very small moment and by around 1986 they had gone full "for the kids". Then of course they got massively revitalized in the early 90s by fighting games, then a slow and sad decline with a few bright spots (DDR being a big one).
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It's one of those back and forth things, I think. I think it took the late 80s and 90s for boomer stereotypes of the hard division between 'for kids' and 'for adults' to really set in, and video games were a confusing hinterland for a bit.
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Vintersorg posted:RE: Tron, others have said and I mostly agree that it works inside the machine but the intro is really loving weird. Movie still rocks though. I forgot how sick the soundtrack for this was
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Vim Fuego posted:o god luke's face C'mon man he was in a motorcycle accident
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Carteret posted:I forgot how sick the soundtrack for this was "2-hour music video for their latest album" is a joke for a reason
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Assepoester posted:We all know what Sebastian Stan's best role was Kings absolutely ruled and this was also what I always associate Stan with first.
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I didn't care to see Tron Legacy in the theatre, but after I got the promo copy of the soundtrack at the radio station, I really wished that I had. The movie kind of misses the central idea of Tron--there's little sense that there's a civilization of computer people that exists beyond two or three named characters--but I couldn't stop listening.
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I saw it on opening night in IMAX 3D... immediately after I had developed an astigmatism, so the whole thing kept jumping in and out of 3D and overlapping images and it was incredibly distracting and made me a bit queasy and irritated. Still incredible, but was really hard to get immersed. Agreed that the world is too cool not to explore more than they did, but what was there was cool. I hear the cartoon expanded on things in an interesting way.
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Tron Legacy had almost 80s Italian movies level "this soundtrack is waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay too good for this movie" I liked it overall though and wish they did another one. I think more than other movies, the nostalgia/rehashed stuff in it really hurt it though. Any of the parts where we're learning more stuff about how the world works and it's doing its own thing I thought were really good, good cast all around, loved the look of it, etc. And even the CG de-aging I thought was fine and, intentionally or not, the stiffness of it really fit with what that particular character was all about. Like when they go to the club/bar/whatever with the other programs that was cool. Like in Tron 1 it's very isolating because it's a big deal that Flynn is a user, they're fugitives on the run, etc. But here it's like we're in this city/whatever where user and program and control program live in the same space but it still felt really "small" which felt like the opposite approach. So like those small bits where there's bustling stuff going on were really cool to see. I don't know, I'd be super hype if they made another one that built on the world more like that, because that's the real draw of both movies to me than the characters almost. Neo Rasa fucked around with this message at 16:33 on Jun 23, 2023 |
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On the topic of Mando s3, I am so conflicted about that one. On the one hand, taking it all on its own merits without worrying about plot continuity from prior seasons, or different shows, I did mostly enjoy watching it. I never regretted watching it. The pirates episode was probably my favorite, but I also really liked the Jack Black/Lizzo one because of how downright weird and campy it was. On the other hand, I really didn't care the fact that nearly everything established in s2 was undone, and most of it off-screen entirely or happening in another show. Regardless of what Filoni and Favreau's intent may have been, it felt like a huge rush to get everything right back to the status quo from around mid-s1. I wish they had taken and ended the show somewhere new, and not just executed a total 180. I was also put off by the volume for the first time because they made so little effort to hide it this season, which made some episodes, especially the one where Doctor guy (forgot his name) and Kane go on their convoluted side quest, look super cheap and lovely. I didn't know you could actually make Coruscant look abandoned.
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