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leftist heap posted:I'm excited for Scoot even though I know nothing about him. I don't really know what Portland does going forward but whatever The overall lack of fireworks is disappointing. I don’t know how the Blazers go into the season with Simons, Sharpe, Scoot, and Dame. Scoot is still a great consolation prize, describing him as such may seem absurd a year from now.
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Rick posted:Yeah true although I think the Warriors ball movement is a lot better than what the Suns were doing after the Durant trade. You think that because it's true Before people start tryna say I'm like, making GBS threads on the Suns just because they traded CP3, I have said since the Finals year that "Point Book" is a myth, and that he ISOs way the gently caress too much SamuraiFoochs fucked around with this message at 05:28 on Jun 23, 2023 |
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If the Hornets re-sign PJ, DSJ, Miles, then ink Miller / Nick Smith and get the second-rounders on two-way deals, that’s basically their roster: Ball / Rozier / Hayward / Miles / Williams DSJ / Cody Martin / Miller / PJ / Richards Nick Smith / Bouknight / Bryce McGowens / Thor / Kai Jones If everyone stays healthy they could maybe get back to the 40ish wins of two seasons ago, and they’ve got a decent mix of vets, good young players and upside guys. I’d be more excited with Scoot but it’s not all bad
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https://twitter.com/mansurshaheen/status/1672059846718283776 Lmao, I didn't even think about this, but didn't Shams have this same thing happen last year too? Stay woke 
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Dexo posted:https://twitter.com/mansurshaheen/status/1672059846718283776 Laugh out lord that movement alone probably pays for Shams entire salary from fanduel
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I just spent like an hour trying to think of any conceivable way the Bulls could reorient their roster to take a step in a positive direction this offseason and it was one of the bleakest exercises of my life https://twitter.com/Will_Gottlieb/status/1672115652184645632 Can't wait 
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xbilkis posted:I just spent like an hour trying to think of any conceivable way the Bulls could reorient their roster to take a step in a positive direction this offseason and it was one of the bleakest exercises of my life The Bulls have a solid amount of options, if they are willing to pay the lux tax. It just all comes down to that. Between the Bi-Annual, the MLE, and the DPE they have a nice chunk of change to add 3 role player shooters. If they decide to blow it up they could trade Derozan, Caruso, Zach and jump start a rebuild. move to get Lonzo's contract completely off the books and yeah, let Pat Will figure out his limits. If they won't pay the tax then yeah, they can't really do loving poo poo with this roster.
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They aren't going to pay the tax. And with how bad AK has been, I don't know how much it would matter.
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Dexo posted:
https://twitter.com/FenixFits/status/1671918152350056448 I don't partake in sports betting, but if a "journalist" who's partnered with a literal casino is tweeting out incorrect information that moves the odds on Scoot from +480 to -700 (which is a GIGANTIC movement in the betting line), that feels like the kind of thing gambling regulators might take an interest in.
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The Bulls best option would have been to sell off last season at the deadline. They may have kept their pick and would have gotten something for Demar, Caruso, Vuc, and Lavine. But it's tough to sell another rebuild after your previous one led you to a play-in game and no future draft equity.
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Dexo posted:The Bulls have a solid amount of options, if they are willing to pay the lux tax. It just all comes down to that. I was just kind of broken by the following factors: 1. The DeRozan/LaVine/Vucevic trio seems to pretty conclusively be less than the sum of its parts at this point, and my priority would be to get rid of Vucevic first since I think he's the least important player of that trio, but they kind of have to keep him (or pray someone's interested in taking him in a S&T) because letting him walk doesn't open up any cap space 2. The easiest key piece to move is DeRozan, but he's maybe the most important to actually winning games and you'll probably struggle to get fair value back for him because of his age and weird game 3. Similar deal with Caruso, who is incredibly important for winning but needs some stars to align for a trade to be worthwhile because he's pretty one-dimensional 4. Coby might suck but you kind of have to bring him back too because he flashed in the last couple of months of the season and you'd be kicking yourself if he pans out somewhere else 5. The MLE-and-below free agent market is hot dogshit. If you're lucky the big piece you're adding is, what, a guy like Seth Curry? (And given the lack of urgency this front office has shown when it comes to adding shooters you might not even get that lucky.) I do think there is a plausible positive step forward for the team, but it's such a tight needle to thread that I have a very hard time imagining something good actually playing out irl
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SamuraiFoochs posted:You think that because it's true More than any other player in the league, Devin Booker has so much in his game that reminds me of Kobe Bryant, from the general numbers, to the footwork, to the occasional game where even other huge star players will watch with an almost religious reverence. "Point Book", conceptually, feels pretty analogous to those Kobe teams from just after Shaq left. He's about the same age now as Kobe was then, too. Except where Kobe was too aggressive with his penetration, Booker hasn't forced the issue in the same way and cares about his teammates getting their shots off.
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leftist heap posted:I'm excited for Scoot even though I know nothing about him. I don't really know what Portland does going forward but whatever one to two of them are gone(minus dame). Probably before the first of July. If none of that works, Ant plays on top of scoot's shoulders as the teams center until February, where a team contending leverages the farm for Damian Lillard. Most likely.
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Kings could have bad my dream scenario of Leonard Miller, Sidy, and TJD and instead went after quintessential Monte draft picks (i.e. old, late bloomer) and cap space It’s not like the Kings dumping draft capital to free up cap space has ever backfired for us
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i don't mean to cuss but the warriors gently caress them self. rather than winning a 5th championship they are going to burn out from being epically old, and only have 4
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Porfiriato posted:https://twitter.com/FenixFits/status/1671918152350056448 On one hand I get where this sentiment is coming from, on the other Shams’ whole stock and trade is based off being correct and reporting rumors before they happen, which are often literally being disseminated by self-interested parties trying to manipulate front offices into making different moves, often their own. Plus, the risk for one betting line for one of the most respected nba journalists in the league (possibly the most, depending on how much stock you put into the perspective that Woj is super vindictive and petty and how cosy he is to specific agents and organizations) just doesn’t make logical sense. We are talking about a move that would very definitely kill his career, probably get him sued, and possibly have him speak before congress as they levy a whole shitload of regulations on the company he works for and the nba as a whole. Plus the logic of the rumor makes sense - every draft board said Scoot was p much objectively the better player than Miller, but in the Hornets’ defense Miller played the more difficult position to find in the NBA and had less question marks about his future potential. Both choices are defensible ones for Charlotte to make, and I’m willing to bet (no pun intended) a fair amount of money that the rumor that Charlotte was seriously considering drafting Scoot was a last-ditch effort by the losing side in the Hornets organization (possibly even one of the new owners who was outvoted or something l) to try and swing public perception to their side. Occam’s Razor states that it’s way more likely that that or something like it was the reason Shams got the erroneous rumor rather than some extremely weird hidden conspiracy to manipulate one money line on one bet for a glorified prop bet on a relatively unimportant sports betting day.
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People who sports bet are degenerate idiots but betting on a draft is in the realm of betting on golf. You’d have to be a loving idiot and getting mad is useless, you have no one but yourself to blame for your lost money
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Niwrad posted:The Bulls best option would have been to sell off last season at the deadline. They may have kept their pick and would have gotten something for Demar, Caruso, Vuc, and Lavine. But it's tough to sell another rebuild after your previous one led you to a play-in game and no future draft equity. The protection on the pick was really light something like top 4 or 5 protected. At the deadline they were 10th in the east and the race to the bottom was already between the Spurs, Hornets, Pistons, and Rockets. At the time the Bulls had won 10 more games then any of those four, and there was no way they could catch up enough to dramatically increase their odds. So by blowing it all up and conveying the 11th pick after getting to the playin games, they would have missed the playin games and conveyed the 6th pick instead. Doesn’t make sense. The Bulls best option was always going to be take their medicine, convey the pick, and make moves post draft. But there is no meaningful way to improve the team this year, and so treading water is likely the way to go.
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The bulls signed UDFA "Captain" Adama Sango from UCONN
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i am a moron posted:People who sports bet are degenerate idiots but betting on a draft is in the realm of betting on golf. You’d have to be a loving idiot and getting mad is useless, you have no one but yourself to blame for your lost money https://twitter.com/DrGuru_/status/1671320056586989569?s=20 you miss every shot you don't take
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GoutPatrol posted:https://twitter.com/DrGuru_/status/1671320056586989569?s=20 Alternatively, picking up pennies in front of a steamroller
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If I would have bet like 100 bucks on Wemby going first tonight he would not have.
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Would’ve netted you a cool 50 cents too
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IcePhoenix posted:Wolfson is one of those guys that just constantly throws poo poo at the wall but most of it is just believable enough to trick you into thinking he has viable sources because sometimes it hits, and when it doesn't he always has some way to twist the way he said it to not make it look bad for him. My assumption here is Suggs' agent told him it'd make sense for the Magic to move him if they grab more guards and Doogie looked for the highest profile team known to be shopping their pick, because engagement. Also to smokescreen the true move, Minott and Moore to bring Suggs home 
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Like what would it have taken for webenyama to not go #1? He literally would have to die, right?
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Tear both ACLs while walking into the draft waiting area
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There's a famous quote by old Louisana Governor Edwin Edwards that comes to mind... Brandon Miller and Jalen Carter demonstrated over the past few months that most legal issues will teflon right off of guys.
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Paracaidas posted:A page+ back but the overwhelming majority of sources for Doogie are agents, and he appears to recognize that when he gets played by lies it's for a reason and he doesn't get offended by it. Oh, yeah he's a pretty good person, I'm mainly just talking about his reliability as a scoopster. And the agent contacts are pretty good for the behind the numbers stuff I had mentioned before as well yeah. Basically if you want to know something before it happens he's not great but if you want to know the details on how everything went down after the fact he's awesome.
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GoutPatrol posted:https://twitter.com/DrGuru_/status/1671320056586989569?s=20 Free money is free money
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slave to my cravings posted:Tear both ACLs while walking into the draft waiting area I don't even think that would have stopped him. Death or he was arrested for something terrible.
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I know it gets said every couple pages but goddamn Victor is tall as hell. Noah is 6-11! I sacrificed for you all and listened to the Hoop Collective on the way to work today and Windhorst is doing his Windy thing about the Kings now having a big chunk of cap space after dumping off Richaun Holmes. Bontemps suggested Brook Lopez. I feel like that'd be pretty great?
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I feel like just about any team that can get Lopez would be happy. He's a perfect piece.
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Chronicles posted:I feel like just about any team that can get Lopez would be happy. He's a perfect piece. The only roleplayer center that I respect as a stretch 5.
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