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Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Doctor Malaver posted:

What would the sub be like if the Juicero guys made it?

the juicero was crazily OVER engineered, to the point it never would have been profitable at the price on offer:

https://youtu.be/_Cp-BGQfpHQ

Best comparison might honestly be James Cameron's Deepsea Challenger (Version 1).

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Shrecknet
Jan 2, 2005


Doctor Malaver posted:

What would the sub be like if the Juicero guys made it?
the Juicero was actually ridiculously, amazingly overengineered. Like, the thing was a tank and 10,000% better than it needed to be, since its job was "press down on a capri-sun"

Shrecknet fucked around with this message at 22:21 on Jun 23, 2023

Elias_Maluco
Aug 23, 2007
I need to sleep
irrc it was an expensive machine to squeeze a bag you could squeeze just as well with your hands

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:
Juicero is the Deepsea Challenger itt:

https://twitter.com/LadyDoctorSays/...ingawful.com%2F

Doctor Malaver
May 23, 2007

Ce qui s'est passé t'a rendu plus fort
I know juicero was over-engineered so probably a billion dollar apparatus that could take you down 10 feet, and only if the location has been approved by the company.

I was just hoping somebody coukd write it funnier. :/

Stexils
Jun 5, 2008

in fairness the submarine is much better at crushing its contents then the juicero

Precambrian Video Games
Aug 19, 2002



Juicero was at least a good name, they just needed to lean a little harder into the ero aspect of it.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

eXXon posted:

Juicero was at least a good name, they just needed to lean a little harder into the ero aspect of it.

"honey it's 3pm! time for your dick juicing!"

Absurd Alhazred
Mar 27, 2010

by Athanatos

Shrecknet posted:

the Juicero was actually ridiculously, amazingly overengineered. Like, the thing was a tank and 10,000% better than it needed to be, since its job was "press down on a capri-sun"



This looks like it would have survived better in depth as designed.

PhazonLink
Jul 17, 2010

Elias_Maluco posted:

irrc it was an expensive machine to squeeze a bag you could squeeze just as well with your hands

i like how the Juicero ceo's logic was something happened to the juice atoms during other juicing methods and werent good enough , but squeezing a bag of (precut??) fruit between flat metal plates was better?

also didnt some fruit bags get recalled because they started to ferment and build up gas and other spoilage? also DRM.

BiggerBoat
Sep 26, 2007

Don't you tell me my business again.

Man, he should have put some little army men or figurines in the can

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

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Stexils posted:

in fairness the submarine is much better at crushing its contents then the juicero

Who knew you could just squeeze a billionaire with your own fists?

FilthyImp
Sep 30, 2002

Anime Deviant

Volmarias posted:

Who knew you could just squeeze a billionaire with your own fists?
Yeah but eww imagine grabbing a handhold on Elin Musk's weird flabby pale body.

It'd probably start absorbing you

cat botherer
Jan 6, 2022

I am interested in most phases of data processing.

Doctor Malaver posted:

What would the sub be like if the Juicero guys made it?
They would have been compressed to death, but differently.

PT6A
Jan 5, 2006

Public school teachers are callous dictators who won't lift a finger to stop children from peeing in my plane
I think the reason people are treating this whole "tragedy" so flippantly is that most people have an intense and justifiable phobia about literally every aspect of what these people subjected themselves to.

I don't think if any of the Dickwaving Billionaire Space Doohickeys got lost, there'd be this level of joking, because on some level I think a lot of people think going to space would be neat and you can empathize with the person doing it, regardless of how much money they have. Crawling aboard this loving tube to gawk at a gravesite over two miles deep in the ocean, whilst sitting cross-legged and making GBS threads in a hole in front of four other people, has an Enigma of Amigara Fault-esque absurdist horror aspect to it. These motherfuckers found their hole and marched right in.

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

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PT6A posted:

I think the reason people are treating this whole "tragedy" so flippantly is that most people have an intense and justifiable phobia about literally every aspect of what these people subjected themselves to.

I don't think if any of the Dickwaving Billionaire Space Doohickeys got lost, there'd be this level of joking, because on some level I think a lot of people think going to space would be neat and you can empathize with the person doing it, regardless of how much money they have. Crawling aboard this loving tube to gawk at a gravesite over two miles deep in the ocean, whilst sitting cross-legged and making GBS threads in a hole in front of four other people, has an Enigma of Amigara Fault-esque absurdist horror aspect to it. These motherfuckers found their hole and marched right in.

Incorrect; if musk demanded that a rocket be made with decommissioned Nike Hercules rockets as boosters, because they would be cheaper, then insisted on flying the first mission, in some sort of customized Tesla touch screen control interface, I would absolutely be laughing. I would possibly be laughing even harder!

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


PT6A posted:

I don't think if any of the Dickwaving Billionaire Space Doohickeys got lost, there'd be this level of joking,

You must be new here. If Bezos and Musk were stuck in a tin can in space the internet would be melting down with meme bandwidth

Foxfire_
Nov 8, 2010

PT6A posted:

I think the reason people are treating this whole "tragedy" so flippantly is that most people have an intense and justifiable phobia about literally every aspect of what these people subjected themselves to.

I don't think if any of the Dickwaving Billionaire Space Doohickeys got lost, there'd be this level of joking, because on some level I think a lot of people think going to space would be neat and you can empathize with the person doing it, regardless of how much money they have. Crawling aboard this loving tube to gawk at a gravesite over two miles deep in the ocean, whilst sitting cross-legged and making GBS threads in a hole in front of four other people, has an Enigma of Amigara Fault-esque absurdist horror aspect to it. These motherfuckers found their hole and marched right in.

I do feel somewhat bad for the kid. He reportedly was afraid of it and didn't want to go, but was guilted into it as a Father's Day thing with his dad.

ponzicar
Mar 17, 2008

Foxfire_ posted:

I do feel somewhat bad for the kid. He reportedly was afraid of it and didn't want to go, but was guilted into it as a Father's Day thing with his dad.

Yeah. All the goons saying that a 19 year old is technically an adult probably haven't interacted with an actual 19 year old in years. Contrary to your memories of being that old, they're very clearly neither mature nor independent. It makes me angry at that dipshit CEO who would be considered too on the nose if he were invented for a Saturday Night Live skit.

Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

Feeling exactly as bad for dudes who die from dumb submarine tricks as I do for the guys who die doing parkour on cranes or crashing sport bikes drunk.

It's sad, but like, what did you think was gonna happen?

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

ponzicar posted:

Yeah. All the goons saying that a 19 year old is technically an adult probably haven't interacted with an actual 19 year old in years. Contrary to your memories of being that old, they're very clearly neither mature nor independent. It makes me angry at that dipshit CEO who would be considered too on the nose if he were invented for a Saturday Night Live skit.

He was old enough to sign a legally binding waiver that mentioned the possibility of death three times on the first page.

Vegetable
Oct 22, 2010

I love the idea that a day passes on a calendar and a rich kid transforms from pure helpless tabula rasa to pernicious self-determined social parasite. Like the person has to be one or another at any given time, nothing in between.

Watermelon Daiquiri
Jul 10, 2010
I TRIED TO BAIT THE TXPOL THREAD WITH THE WORLD'S WORST POSSIBLE TAKE AND ALL I GOT WAS THIS STUPID AVATAR.
its quantum superpostiion

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.
19 year old heirs to fortunes, definitely nice people full of potential who haven't done anything bad.

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Foxfire_
Nov 8, 2010

I think 19 is old enough to realize it's a bad idea and his odds of ending up as a well adjusted person with billionaire parents were low, just that everyone else in the boat was "I am so hyped up to go look at this famous underwater grave that I'll pay a ridiculous amount of money and accept a lot of danger" and he was "I really don't want to do this, but I guess I will go along to make my dad happy". It's a more sympathetic motivation

Ruffian Price
Sep 17, 2016

cat botherer posted:

They would have been compressed to death, but differently.

Everybody's congratulating Juicero on their efficiency until Bloomberg releases a video of one of their reporters crushing a CEO with her bare hands

The Lone Badger
Sep 24, 2007

Doctor Malaver posted:

What would the sub be like if the Juicero guys made it?

It would have been made of massive amounts of stainless steel and would survive the pressure just fine, but be too heavy to resurface.

Also the oxygen system stops functioning as soon as it loses internet connectivity and can no longer validate the DRM codes on the oxygen tanks.

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

Tech Nightmares 6: Titans of Industry

Rebel Blob
Mar 1, 2008

Extinction for our time

Mister Facetious posted:

He was old enough to sign a legally binding waiver that mentioned the possibility of death three times on the first page.
We will find out how legally-binding those waivers really are. You can't waive your rights completely, for example the right to sue for gross negligence can't just be signed away. Given that some of the lawsuits will be funded by the estates of billionaires, I kinda doubt the waivers will hold up.

Xand_Man
Mar 2, 2004

If what you say is true
Wutang might be dangerous


Arivia posted:

"honey it's 3pm! time for your dick juicing!"

I'mma need to know more about the process before I give my consent

Mister Facetious
Apr 21, 2007

I think I died and woke up in L.A.,
I don't know how I wound up in this place...

:canada:

Rebel Blob posted:

We will find out how legally-binding those waivers really are. You can't waive your rights completely, for example the right to sue for gross negligence can't just be signed away. Given that some of the lawsuits will be funded by the estates of billionaires, I kinda doubt the waivers will hold up.

America doesn't require certification for deep submergence vehicles so uh, good luck. Especially when the guy that founded the business died.
That's capitalism, baby.

Rent-A-Cop
Oct 15, 2004

I posted my food for USPOL Thanksgiving!

Mister Facetious posted:

America doesn't require certification for deep submergence vehicles so uh, good luck. Especially when the guy that founded the business died.
That's capitalism, baby.
Anyone left at OceanGate is pulling the copper out of the walls and headed for the hills.

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

MisterOblivious posted:

They didn't use bad carbon fiber

Not a carbon fiber expert so I'm not really sure how carbon fiber "goes bad" in it's raw form but apparently the company bought carbon fiber at a discount because it was past it's shelf life for aircraft.

https://www.insider.com/oceangate-ceo-said-titan-made-old-material-bought-boeing-report-2023-6

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A writer who said he was set to travel on the doomed Titan submersible said OceanGate CEO Stockton Rush told him that for the vessel's hull, the company used cut-price Boeing carbon fiber that was past its airplane shelf life.

The stunning claim came in a series of articles by Travel Weekly's editor in chief, Arnie Weissmann, who this week chronicled his experiences with the deep-sea-diving company.

Weissmann wrote that he was due to board the Titan to view the Titanic in May but the trip was stopped by weather. In fact, just a couple of weeks stood between his would-be voyage and the trip that ended in tragedy this week when the vessel imploded, killing all five on board, he wrote.

In general, he said, he was impressed by "what appeared to be a risk-averse operation."

But one thing concerned him, he wrote.

Rush told Weissmann that "he had gotten the carbon fiber used to make the Titan at a big discount from Boeing because it was past its shelf life for use in airplanes," Weissmann wrote.

In his recollection, he asked Rush whether that was a problem, but he said he was told that the shelf-life dates "were set far before they had to be."

Both OceanGate and Boeing declined to comment on Weissmann's claims. Insider was unable to independently verify the source of the Titan's carbon fiber.

OceanGate's website previously claimed that the vessel was designed and engineered "in collaboration" with Boeing.

Boeing has denied any involvement in the design of the Titan.

Much remains unknown about the circumstances of the disaster, including what could have caused the vessel to implode. The US Coast Guard said Thursday that debris found at the scene was "consistent with catastrophic loss of the pressure chamber."

The Titan's experimental carbon-fiber hull has become a subject of discussion since the vessel went missing.

Rush previously touted the cost-saving benefits of carbon fiber versus the standard titanium and claimed in a 2021 presentation that "carbon fiber is three times better on a strength-to-buoyancy basis than titanium."

"And underwater, that's what you care about," he added.

A 2017 CompositesWorld report said the initial carbon-fiber hull design was prepared on just a six-week deadline, though GeekWire reported the vessel was rebuilt later.

Before the tragic trip, Rush publicly discussed taking risks to pursue what he called "innovation," saying in 2021 that he knew he had "broken some rules" by using a carbon-fiber hull for the vessel.

For his part, Weissmann described Rush as being "somewhat cocky" but said that Rush had earned the right to be like that.

Reflecting on the question of the source of the carbon fiber, Weissmann wrote: "It is a conversation I have thought about a great deal over the past week."

Professor Beetus
Apr 12, 2007

They can fight us
But they'll never Beetus
forget hubris, this rear end in a top hat was spitting in the face of god

Volmarias
Dec 31, 2002

EMAIL... THE INTERNET... SEARCH ENGINES...

quote:

In his recollection, he asked Rush whether that was a problem, but he said he was told that the shelf-life dates "were set far before they had to be."

To be fair, he's probably not wrong there.

To be fair, it's also because aircraft failures due to manufacturing can be catastrophically expensive to the manufacturer, as their Max debacle showed.

Anyway, the free market works!

Ghost Leviathan
Mar 2, 2017

Exploration is ill-advised.

Professor Beetus posted:

forget hubris, this rear end in a top hat was spitting in the face of god

More flying a kite by wire on top of a hill during a thunderstorm wearing copper armour and screaming 'all gods are bastards. Especially Zeus, Thor, AND Susan-oo'

Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!
There’s a thread on Hacker News talking about salary and jfc I can’t even comprehend the numbers these people are quoting. I’d link it but I dunno if that’s allowed for various reasons so I’ll just post some choice quotes.

The post started with saying Open AI employees get paid a median compensation package of $900k.

quote:

But it's also important to note that only $300K of that is in cash.

Yes, only 300k is in cash oh no the horror. You see, it’s low because:

quote:

That person could probably be making 500k+ at a FANG with less variance in the stock component.

quote:

I am at FAANG and virtually everyone at L6 (staff Eng level, many thousands of people) is paid at least $500k, with monthly liquidity (no cliff).

With a bit of luck stock wise, it’s also not uncommon at all to get to $500k+ at L5 (senior eng level, many dozens of thousands of people).

Everyone in my SF network (hundreds of people) virtually make above $500k.

300k? 500k? Sounds great right? But no it’s literally poverty:

quote:

To be realistic ... 300K in the bay is barely livable if you're targeting a middle class life with kids and targeting retiring at 65.

The emphasis is not mine. It continues, after taxes:

quote:

So that's 162K left. Not a lot to pay sky-high rents, car payments[…]

Oh my got shut up.

E:

quote:

A ~$100K signing bonus sounds kind of small for someone making $900K per year.

E2:

Tech Nightmares 6: A ~$100K signing bonus sounds kind of small

Boris Galerkin fucked around with this message at 00:58 on Jun 25, 2023

Twerk from Home
Jan 17, 2009

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Boris Galerkin posted:

300k? 500k? Sounds great right? But no it’s literally poverty:

The emphasis is not mine. It continues, after taxes:

Oh my got shut up.

It's housing. The problem is entirely housing. They are not wrong that $300k gross in the bay area means either perma-renting, or fighting for the smallest and worst of available housing for purchase. With interest rates around 7% now and insurers fleeing the state and insurance costs skyrocketing, most of the people who have bought houses recently on the peninsula or in other desirable parts of the bay are spending around $10k a month just on housing.

$300k is a ton of income, but in that hellhole it can't buy somewhere nice to live.

pumpinglemma
Apr 28, 2009

DD: Fondly regard abomination.

If only something had happened in the last few years to make telecommuting from outside the bay area a reasonable option, especially in the tech industry.

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Boris Galerkin
Dec 17, 2011

I don't understand why I can't harass people online. Seriously, somebody please explain why I shouldn't be allowed to stalk others on social media!

Twerk from Home posted:

It's housing. The problem is entirely housing. They are not wrong that $300k gross in the bay area means either perma-renting, or fighting for the smallest and worst of available housing for purchase. With interest rates around 7% now and insurers fleeing the state and insurance costs skyrocketing, most of the people who have bought houses recently on the peninsula or in other desirable parts of the bay are spending around $10k a month just on housing.

$300k is a ton of income, but in that hellhole it can't buy somewhere nice to live.

Pay me 300k base + 300k stock and I'll gladly rent and live in a shithole for 3 years before moving to a non-shithole and using the experience as a jumping off point to demand a remote only job.

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