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Burt Buckle
Sep 1, 2011

This situation has the potential to snowball very quickly.

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Bremen
Jul 20, 2006

Our God..... is an awesome God

Paladinus posted:

Russia seems to have intensified missile strikes on Ukraine in the meantime. My understanding is strikes like that are planned at least several days in advance, but timing makes it look like a tantrum.

You know, I wonder if Prigozhin knew the timing and arranged for this all to go down at a time where he knew the Russian air assets would be busy.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!

BIG FLUFFY DOG posted:

Has anyone actually seen Putin today?

Yesterday he released a video for the National Youth Day, urging young people to dream and work to achieve their dreams. It was obviously pre-recorded. Before that, I think he last surfaced a couple of days ago for a Security Council meeting.

mutata
Mar 1, 2003

Burt Buckle posted:

This situation has the potential to snowball very quickly.

Great work, keep us updated.

Paladinus
Jan 11, 2014

heyHEYYYY!!!
Meanwhile in Moscow.

Mayor Sobyanin posted:

Anti-terrorist measures are being taken in Moscow to strengthen security in response to information received. Additional monitoring has been introduced on the roads. There may be restrictions on the holding of public events. We count on your understanding with the measures being taken.

acidx
Sep 24, 2019

right clicking is stealing
Khodorkovsky like we'll use Prigozhin to kill Putin, and then we'll kill Prigozhin, and then idk, probably kill me.

https://twitter.com/AFP/status/1672445522853109761

AsInHowe
Jan 11, 2007

red winged angel

Paladinus posted:

Yesterday he released a video for the National Youth Day, urging young people to dream and work to achieve their dreams.

They seem to be listening

Carmant
Nov 23, 2015


Treadmill? What's that? Is that some kind of cake?


mutata posted:

Great work, keep us updated.

The current situation is that it could be snowballing as we speak. If not, then it still has the potential to snowball very quickly. But that depends on what happens with the situation of course.

Moon Slayer
Jun 19, 2007

https://twitter.com/ThomasVLinge/status/1672450302623064065

e:
https://twitter.com/timkmak/status/1672450821437399040

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

ethanol posted:

just noticed on google maps has live traffic enabled in Rostov. many of the roads are closed and blocked. including a huge stretches of the M4

Same if you go up and look just south of Voronezh.

Moktaro
Aug 3, 2007
I value call my nuts.

spankmeister posted:

Oh, things are happening.

Just coming back here from Twitter, and yeah this aged well. :v:

Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

Are you happy now?
Is Rostov in range of Ukrainian missiles? Sure would be a shame if someone got blown up and blamed someone else for doing it.

Think it's time for a new thread title!


The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > War in Ukraine CE: Let Them Fight

Donkringel
Apr 22, 2008
I don't know if it would be better for Wagner to continue marching or entrench in the city.

If Wagner marches it will continue to freak out Putin and the Russian military and make them look weak, which could gain more allies for Wagner.

If Wagner entrenches then the Russian military has a major problem. They lose a key logistics hub while Ukraine continues it's counter-offensive. Wagner may have light forces but placing them in buildings will help protect them and Russian will be very wary/reluctant to blow up their own cities. They would need to send in their own light forces and do building to building fighting, with civilians in the way.

Ynglaur
Oct 9, 2013

The Malta Conference, anyone?

Comstar posted:


The Something Awful Forums > Discussion > Debate & Discussion > War in Ukraine CE: Let Them Fight

This. Good night, goons!

Goatse James Bond
Mar 28, 2010

If you see me posting please remind me that I have Charlie Work in the reports forum to do instead

Ynglaur posted:

This. Good night, goons!

I'll be starting a spinoff thread so this can focus on the Ukraine side of things, but I'll use this subtitle

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010

Tomn posted:

Seems unlikely. What are you going to do?

"Aha! You see, we've fooled you into mobilizing and rising up in rebellion, the punishment for which is death!"
"Well...I'm already hosed and already mobilized so I guess I might as well commit to the rebellion and maybe get lucky!"

There's other ways of checking for loyalty that don't involve triggering an actual military revolt with all the damaging consequences thereof.

"What's the penalty for being late?"
"Death."
"What's the penalty for rebellion?"
"Death."
"Well -- we're late."

Kaiser Schnitzel
Mar 29, 2006

Schnitzel mit uns


Donkringel posted:

Russian will be very wary/reluctant to blow up their own cities.
Ask Grozny about that.

Willo567
Feb 5, 2015

Cheating helped me fail the test and stay on the show.
Nevermind, Tweet deleted

Arglebargle III
Feb 21, 2006

https://twitter.com/igorsushko/status/1672459235245051906

Wagner tank crew trying to do donuts in front of the Rostov-on-Don military headquarters.

Mr. Apollo
Nov 8, 2000

https://twitter.com/epicgopfail/status/1672443824373747712?s=46&t=eYnb6uC9Nqku2TRAz1AKtQ

Comstar
Apr 20, 2007

Are you happy now?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zdKrc1ign5M shows video of the deputy defence minister is meeting of the head of wagnar talking very friendly in the HQ of the southern command.

acidx
Sep 24, 2019

right clicking is stealing
https://twitter.com/RALee85/status/1672463016586014720

Willo567
Feb 5, 2015

Cheating helped me fail the test and stay on the show.
https://twitter.com/maxseddon/status/1672464666868498433
Wonder if Putin will just hand them over to Prigozhin

Willo567 fucked around with this message at 05:46 on Jun 24, 2023

Diogines
Dec 22, 2007

Beaky the Tortoise says, click here to join our choose Your Own Adventure Game!

Paradise Lost: Clash of the Heavens!

Can someone who has a better understanding of the situation than I do, please explain the likelihood of this leading to (1)the Russian state imploding into anarchy or (2)nukes somehow getting lose or flying? Both are pretty unlikely, right?

This seems like kind of a big deal but the various news websites seem to be treating this as just another piece of international news, which has me puzzled? Even if those are both unlikely, this seems like a Bigger Deal than the major news outlets are treating it?

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Grape posted:

Same if you go up and look just south of Voronezh.

Ammendum: Same if you go up and look north of Voronezh drat near all the way to Moscow... 0_0

MikeC
Jul 19, 2004
BITCH ASS NARC

Diogines posted:

Can someone who has a better understanding of the situation than I do, please explain the likelihood of this leading to (1)the Russian state imploding into anarchy or (2)nukes somehow getting lose or flying? Both are pretty unlikely, right?

This seems like kind of a big deal but the various news websites seem to be treating this as just another piece of international news, which has me puzzled? Even if those are both unlikely, this seems like a Bigger Deal than the major news outlets are treating it?

SA seems like the last place to ask for an accurate assessment of internal Russian power dynamics. The fact that Prigozhin has gotten this far and isn't dead in a ditch while Russia is in the middle of war has immense comedic value though.

Grape
Nov 16, 2017

Happily shilling for China!

Diogines posted:

Can someone who has a better understanding of the situation than I do, please explain the likelihood of this leading to (1)the Russian state imploding into anarchy or (2)nukes somehow getting lose or flying? Both are pretty unlikely, right?

This is highly likely to result in a strike directly on the balls of anyone who posts like this.

Charlz Guybon
Nov 16, 2010
Seems like the grunts might be flipping towards Wagner

https://twitter.com/sentdefender/status/1672429891499749376

https://twitter.com/Osinttechnical/status/1672435905720614913

https://twitter.com/Maks_NAFO_FELLA/status/1672439458547785729?s=20

Willo567
Feb 5, 2015

Cheating helped me fail the test and stay on the show.

Who is the last Tweet?

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer

Diogines posted:

Can someone who has a better understanding of the situation than I do, please explain the likelihood of this leading to (1)the Russian state imploding into anarchy or (2)nukes somehow getting lose or flying? Both are pretty unlikely, right?

This seems like kind of a big deal but the various news websites seem to be treating this as just another piece of international news, which has me puzzled? Even if those are both unlikely, this seems like a Bigger Deal than the major news outlets are treating it?

Who is going to launch nukes? Russia at itself?

As for where this is all headed nobody has any idea.

Willo567
Feb 5, 2015

Cheating helped me fail the test and stay on the show.
https://twitter.com/DAlperovitch/status/1672466307130748928

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

Well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, well, [runs out of breath]

Popete
Oct 6, 2009

This will make sure you don't suggest to the KDz
That he should grow greens instead of crushing on MCs

Grimey Drawer
I'm not sure I buy Prigohzin stance that he's just after Shoigu and is upset at how incompetently the war is being run (although that is probably part of it). Let's say he accomplishes removing Shoigu then what? I can't really see Putin being happy with this insurrection and letting him return back to the front like nothing happened.

Staluigi
Jun 22, 2021

Staluigi posted:

Are we getting to the partisan insurgency instability chapter of russian contemporary history? because I want some good modern "dictator now spends life hiding in palace" ditties for the books

I'll take it!

Frank Frank
Jun 13, 2001

Mirrored

Diogines posted:

Can someone who has a better understanding of the situation than I do, please explain the likelihood of this leading to (1)the Russian state imploding into anarchy or (2)nukes somehow getting lose or flying? Both are pretty unlikely, right?

This seems like kind of a big deal but the various news websites seem to be treating this as just another piece of international news, which has me puzzled? Even if those are both unlikely, this seems like a Bigger Deal than the major news outlets are treating it?

You won’t find that here or anywhere. The parties involved don’t stand to gain anything by giving accurate real-time updates to the world. The media is in “wait and see” mode just like the rest of us are.

Kammat
Feb 9, 2008
Odd Person
In that vein has anything official come from him or his office? Being quiet this long considering it's already morning there is odd.

Luigi's Discount Porn Bin
Jul 19, 2000


Oven Wrangler
Who are any of these people? Are they reliable sources?

Nelson Mandingo
Mar 27, 2005




If Prigozhin gets his pound of flesh he's pretty much the actual leader of Russia. The idea Putin isn't on TV right now condemning this, trying to suppress this has me asking questions.

acidx
Sep 24, 2019

right clicking is stealing
e:f;b

acidx fucked around with this message at 06:11 on Jun 24, 2023

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yunichel
Apr 27, 2010

Nelson Mandingo posted:

If Prigozhin gets his pound of flesh he's pretty much the actual leader of Russia. The idea Putin isn't on TV right now condemning this, trying to suppress this has me asking questions.
Putin disappears whenever there's a crisis

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