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Gen Xers are entering their 60s now, and it's hard to micromanage people from a caravan so it's probably accurate enough. Edit: and remember it's a common myth that Millennials are the most gaslit generation. We're just the most self-aware about it. Don Dongington fucked around with this message at 04:07 on Jun 24, 2023 |
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Konomex posted:How the gently caress does a luxury holiday home remain part of the Australia dream when owning a bloody house, or renting a flat, doesn't remain part of the dream? How detached from the situation is this journo? About as detached as you if you think owning a home isn't still the "Australian dream".
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Jun 24, 2023 07:41
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JBP posted:About as detached as you if you think owning a home isn't still the "Australian dream". More fantasy than dream now unfortunately
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Synthbuttrange posted:https://www.theguardian.com/austral...of-hate-symbols maybe we should ban individuals owning them
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sick of Applebees posted:More fantasy than dream now unfortunately 55% of millennials have a mortgage.
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55% of Millennials are over 35, at which point most boomers were moving into their second or third homes and having a pool put in so
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JBP posted:55% of millennials have a mortgage. And???
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Jun 24, 2023 10:58
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JBP posted:55% of millennials have a mortgage. do you think its bad that half of people in their 30s cant own their own home or nah
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JBP posted:55% of millennials have a mortgage. 95% of poor people have a fridge
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https://twitter.com/CelluloidWhisky/status/1672027837556207616
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JBP posted:About as detached as you if you think owning a home isn't still the "Australian dream". They were publishing articles 10 years ago about it no longer being the dream, it's dead in the water for Gen Z. Millenials are just scraping into it after years of trying, biting the bullet, grinding themselves to the bone and in many cases - just waiting for their parents to die.
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Rent for 40 years then inherit a home in time to retire, the australian dream.
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fwiw I don't know a single millennial that bought a house with their own money either, I think the smallest cash injection I've yet heard of was like 200k from their parents with some of my wifes fancy-pants school friends getting like a cool mil. It's more like "45% of millennials don't own a house, and another N% could never have afforded one in the current economy if they weren't spooned by their parents". There's an absolutely huge transfer of wealth from middle income earners and early retirees into the hands of fuckwits real estate cunts basically. edit; in fairness one of my friends bought their townhouse without any parental help, they are a DINK couple earning mid 6 figures.
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abigserve posted:fwiw I don't know a single millennial that bought a house with their own money either, I think the smallest cash injection I've yet heard of was like 200k from their parents with some of my wifes fancy-pants school friends getting like a cool mil. It's more like "45% of millennials don't own a house, and another N% could never have afforded one in the current economy if they weren't spooned by their parents". There's an absolutely huge transfer of wealth from middle income earners and early retirees into the hands of fuckwits real estate cunts basically. My partner and I are millennials who bought our place without parental assistance, but Mr Froglet is a frugal wizard and we live in Perth, which is a fair bit cheaper than other cities. Spookydonut posted:Start by strengthening tenant rights like no more no cause evictions so the rental market isnt a constant churn of people being kicked out of rentals and you might start to see some stability. I believe Canada has pioneered the art of the "renoviction" - say you're renovating the place, evict the tenants, do some minor changes... Or not... Then re-let to the next hapless sap who dares wish for a roof over their head.
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abigserve posted:fwiw I don't know a single millennial that bought a house with their own money either, I think the smallest cash injection I've yet heard of was like 200k from their parents with some of my wifes fancy-pants school friends getting like a cool mil. It's more like "45% of millennials don't own a house, and another N% could never have afforded one in the current economy if they weren't spooned by their parents". There's an absolutely huge transfer of wealth from middle income earners and early retirees into the hands of fuckwits real estate cunts basically. Missus and I bought a small 2br house last year, at age 40, with no help. Outer suburbs of Melbourne. We are DINK with a combined income slightly above the median. Thing is, if other millennials were as tight arsed as I am in saving money the economy would probably collapse. So just get a high paying job, never spend any money and don't have kids Also I guess I'm only just in the millennial age bracket
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EoinCannon posted:Missus and I bought a small 2br house last year, at age 40, with no help. Outer suburbs of Melbourne. We are DINK with a combined income slightly above the median. Thing is, if other millennials were as tight arsed as I am in saving money the economy would probably collapse. Similar here. I don't have any expensive hobbies, I bought myself and rent out a room in my house. I only managed to save up for it by working my arse off in offshore construction, spending a lot of time offshore and always splitting rent. No way I could have done it if rents over the last 15 years were what they are today. Feels like I managed to grab the very bottom run of the ladder being pulled rapidly up.
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The secret is to have all millennials move to Perth and start a commune with Logan's Run rules?
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Not sure the Australian dream ever consisted of solely focussing on work for an extended period of time, no kids, no hobbies.
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Recoome posted:And??? How is it a fantasy when the majority of the hard done by generation have it? Konomex posted:They were publishing articles 10 years ago about it no longer being the dream, it's dead in the water for Gen Z. Millenials are just scraping into it after years of trying, biting the bullet, grinding themselves to the bone and in many cases - just waiting for their parents to die. Who is they
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JBP posted:How is it a fantasy when the majority of the hard done by generation have it? https://www.abs.gov.au/articles/back-my-day-comparing-millennials-earlier-generations Good article from the ABS about the changes in living circumstances by generation if you are interested in it.
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lih posted:the daily telegraph is reporting the nats might be going to roll littleproud in favour of joyce (lol) or pitt, because littleproud keeps losing his temper at other mps & staff and won't stand up to dutton on anything lol I'd actually forgotten about the nats.
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hooman posted:https://www.abs.gov.au/articles/back-my-day-comparing-millennials-earlier-generations Yeah I know all of this. Declaring home ownership as a dream to be dead is still nonsense.
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Simon Crean has died. Should I care?
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Budzilla posted:Simon Crean has died. Should I care? no
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JBP posted:Yeah I know all of this. Declaring home ownership as a dream to be dead is still nonsense. About as nonsense as home ownership itself
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Konomex posted:About as nonsense as home ownership itself ?
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I know this is just a classic JBP bit where they go for whatever dumb rusted-on Labor poo poo due to being born at the right time, but for anyone actually interested in the evidence and not some dumb Victorian opinion the AIHW and the ABS has some really interesting data on this which suggests that the proportion of home ownership is decreasing in successive generations. This is the AIHW page which has both the point estimate at 2021 as well as some interpretation on comparing current age groups vs age groups in the past. This is the ABS article - It's not a gotcha but does highlight that if you were boomer in the 90s, you were much more likely to own your home (with a mortgage).
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Budzilla posted:Simon Crean has died. Should I care? In spite of his later poor performance Crean was one of the few voices that were stridently against the bullshit of the Iraq war.
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Libs are the party of landlords, and Labor are the party of the aspirational class and landlords who consider/ed themselves battlers. Change my mind.
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It's extremely annoying that there are many low pain options available to at least make buying a home less hard, but if you use them it's a big "how dare you" from people that have been serviced by a free kick machine for fifty plus years.
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JBP posted:but if you use them it's a big "how dare you" from people that have been serviced by a free kick machine for fifty plus years. But enough about Murdoch
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Synthbuttrange posted:Australians cant get enough Nazi junk! Non Compos Mentis posted:maybe we should ban individuals owning them I'd think owning an Australian was its own punishment, Nazi-loving or not
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Oh my god. Andrew Bolt wrote an article "Keystone Coup has Lessons for Dictators", and it didnt even mention Dan Andrews once.
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