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15 | 3.71% |
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115 | 28.47% |
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67 | 16.58% |
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94 | 23.27% |
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14 | 3.47% |
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87 | 21.53% |
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Ardennes posted:In the end, the West is confused if Wagner are good guys are not, Maybe this was a Wagner pr stunt.
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pro-russian social media people citing random guys in the duma, and norwegian media ("major russian losses! as many as 13 guys died" being the predictably tedious headline)
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Jun 25, 2023 11:44
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PoontifexMacksimus posted:has anyone called him Pirozhkin yet his actual name would suggest that this may have been an op of some kind Ardennes posted:Where did the 20 dead soldiers come from? it's some kind of escalation of the "supposedly they shot down a helicopter" (just off screen on this video) to "supposedly they shot down 5 helicopters and a plane", and then the numbers of involved theoretical pilots edit: kommersant is also talking about this, https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/6067982, but they mention that the ministry of defence hasn't confirmed any of these losses. don't know if there is supposed footage, the only thing I saw yesterday was the posts here with an explosion on a road (so probably not a plane), and someone filming the sky while running around in a parking lot with no visible explosions. tazjin has issued a correction as of 11:48 on Jun 25, 2023 |
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Jun 25, 2023 11:44
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Why would someone film the sky if there were not many planes and helicopters being destroyed?
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Jun 25, 2023 11:51
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Yeah we sacked Rostov-on-don Crashed our tank into some cars Got caught declaring martial law Last Friday night
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Jun 25, 2023 11:52
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gradenko_2000 posted:Humiliation for loser bellingcat Mr. Moses, your monitor...
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Jun 25, 2023 11:52
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https://www.nytimes.com/2023/06/24/world/europe/us-intel-prigozhin-warning.html https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/06/24/us-intelligence-prigozhin-putin/ NYT and WP reporting the US knew about Prigozhin's plans since mid June.
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Jun 25, 2023 11:54
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V. Illych L. posted:pro-russian social media people citing random guys in the duma, and norwegian media ("major russian losses! as many as 13 guys died" being the predictably tedious headline) That doesn't sound confirmed. tazjin posted:his actual name would suggest that this may have been an op of some kind Yeah, 5-6 aircraft being shot down...doesn't really jive with the forces Prigozhin had on the ground either, which was some infantry and armor on carriers. I don't know if I want to say nothing got shot down, but yeah, I don't think guesstimates really cut it. The more of the aftermath comes out, the more this seems pretty non-serious. I guess you could say this was just a "lark" by Prigozhin but even then the government didn't do anything against him or any lieutenants. Perhaps, the Russian government figured out their mark, and that the West is absolutely starving for any sign of disorder in Russia ,and gave them a little bit of a show, while they are actually maneuvering Wagner forces in the background. Also, how would the West know of Prigozhin's plans before the Russian state itself.
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Jun 25, 2023 12:03
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putin still on suicide watch apparently
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Jun 25, 2023 12:04
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One man’s freedom fighter is the same man’s terrorist depending on whether it is before or after lunch time
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Jun 25, 2023 12:04
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Ardennes posted:That doesn't sound confirmed. Actually, the papers are all saying that Putin is fatally weakened and I'm sure they know what they're talking about.
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Jun 25, 2023 12:22
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tazjin posted:his actual name would suggest that this may have been an op of some kind Kojima-rear end name, really With Mr. Pireogi, you never know what's going on inside
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Jun 25, 2023 12:23
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I am reminded of the Barack Obama regimes mortal wounding at the bundy ranch standoff
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Jun 25, 2023 12:24
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Ardennes posted:Where did the 20 dead soldiers come from? There is a breakdown list on reddit that basically summed up to https://www.reddit.com/r/UkraineRussiaReport/comments/14i0nz5/_/ 3 helicopters landed with holes on them (probably got shot by Wagner with machine guns) One Ka 52 got shot down with 2 pilots killed. I still haven't seen a photo of the wreckage so I am still skeptical about it. However the same sub has a new video of a Ka52 dodging 3 MANPAD rockets, so maybe. And lastly a video of a IL-22 spinning out of sky with about 10 people on board. I am very skeptical the Wagner envoy carried any AA gun that can reach a passenger plane. Plus timing doesn't seem right. That video was posted the same time the Wagner soldiers were hugging and leaving the military building. I actually really want to see proof of the downed KA52 , because that would be the only proof that this entire show was not a con. Or put it in another way, only Wagner and Putin were in on the op, but the MOD was taking it seriously.
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Jun 25, 2023 12:28
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The idea that putin's russia is about to implode is dumb but the notion that it's perfectly fine and normal and not a worrying sign at all for the state's sponsored mercenary company to mutiny, dispatch a flying column unopposed towards the capital to purge the MoD, be denounced as traitors in a national address, and then recant so as to go into comfortable exile (???) in potato-father's vassal state is, perhaps, questionable. It's hard for me to blame the libs (and this thread) for going crazy for half a day because those are some pretty remarkable events actually!!
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Jun 25, 2023 12:33
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the events were very good and i enjoyed posting through it. I helped save putin from a coup yesterday
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Jun 25, 2023 12:35
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We should form shitposting brigades, and deploy them covertly to the general Moscow area, where the troops would skulk around in the cover of darkness shitposting, thus ending the need for the special military operation. Oh hey I wonder what the trash forum version of this post is! (that all of them endorse and agree with, by virtue of it existing there) 
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Jun 25, 2023 12:40
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stephenthinkpad posted:There is a breakdown list on reddit that basically summed up to Or perhaps a local commander just panick'ed or wasn't in the loop because it didn't seem the rest of the MOD was doing anything either. There wasn't a firefight at the HQ (which there almost certainly have been) and for the most part Wagner was just doing its thing. If anything it seemed like most of the time there was zero friction besides possibly one incident.
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Jun 25, 2023 12:43
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good forum is currently going on about videos of Russian troops being 'aced' in trenches at Tormak and lamenting that the 'proof' is all from 'controversial sources' that will get them 'probed' if they posted it which is to say they're watching snuff videos of nazis killing Russian troops just in case i was too subtle
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Jun 25, 2023 12:44
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Regarde Aduck posted:good forum is currently going on about videos of Russian troops being 'aced' in trenches at Tormak and lamenting that the 'proof' is all from 'controversial sources' that will get them 'probed' if they posted it You can keep the snuff out of the thread, but you can't keep the thread out of the snuff. lol
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Jun 25, 2023 12:46
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I guess if all you watch is gorn then it must provide a very skewed perception of the war. I'd feel bad for these people were they not complete pieces of poo poo for reveling in it
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Jun 25, 2023 12:47
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I am a paid member of Putin's Posting Vanguard. This forum has been identified as a key lynchpin in global sentiment and an important, militarily strategic fulcrum. My posts on SomethingAwful.com give material aid and comfort to the Russian forces.
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Jun 25, 2023 12:48
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ro5s posted:war's so loving stupid
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Jun 25, 2023 12:58
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it's not great
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Jun 25, 2023 12:59
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Ok so my prediction is wagner will attack from Belarus soon while Prigoblin posts a video saying "psyche!"Nix Panicus posted:I am a paid member of Putin's Posting Vanguard. This forum has been identified as a key lynchpin in global sentiment and an important, militarily strategic fulcrum. My posts on SomethingAwful.com give material aid and comfort to the Russian forces. Glory to the posters!
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Jun 25, 2023 13:06
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Prigozhin more like Primadonna
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Jun 25, 2023 13:11
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Weka posted:Ok so my prediction is wagner will attack from Belarus soon while Prigoblin posts a video saying "psyche!" Yeah, with perhaps the Chechens making some moves around Kharkov and other sectors. I could see the MOD perhaps not wanting to put regular soldiers on the offensive, but using mercenaries and auxiliaries to pressure those frontlines (which are supposedly are depleted) may be pretty useful. The aim of the Russians is probably not going to be another beeline for Kiev or other major cities, but to keep on opening more fronts to keep the Ukrainians spread thin, especially if they can only fill in the gaps with essentially armed civilians.
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Jun 25, 2023 13:11
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https://twitter.com/OlgaBazova/status/1672891911055585280
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Jun 25, 2023 13:14
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War bad. Many people saying this!
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gradenko_2000 posted:Prigozhin more like Primadonna posteriam slava
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Jun 25, 2023 13:15
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lmfao
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Jun 25, 2023 13:17
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V. Illych L. posted:there must've been something happening behind the scenes here to make prigozhin roll the dice in such an insanely risky way, the leader of a private corporation lets his ego drive him to irrational choices when he feels his role is threatened? maybe not such a deep mystery
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Jun 25, 2023 13:18
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I don't like this
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Jun 25, 2023 13:19
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speng31b posted:I am pretty sure they are trying to win it as decisively as they can without a general mobilization already, they are just not doing great Contradictionsofliberalism.txt Mass Armies and the Cold War: Institutional Post-Heroism? Ingo Trauschweizer "In the United States, the cultural perception of war changed as the nation came to terms with a protracted Cold War. John Lynn explains how Americans’ views on war evolved between the attacks on Pearl Harbor and 9/11 ‘from resolution to fight absolute war at all costs, to an acceptance of limited wars in the name of containment, to a reluctance to accept losses and the technological reliance and limited commitment such reluctance entails’." "In his seminal study The American Way of War, Russell Weigley argued that the United States had pursued strategies of attrition from a position of relative weakness early in its history, but shifted to strategies of annihilation once industrial and technological and scientific resources became available. In the Cold War, however, neither approach worked and American strategy found itself, in Weigley’s words, ‘in perplexity’.12 How did the US army cope with such confusion? According to Brian Linn it could fall back on its distinct conceptions of war. Linn identifies three schools of thought among officers: Guardians, Heroes and Managers. Guardians were most invested in the defence of the homeland by way of coastal fortification and other engin- eering feats. Their reasoning held sway for most of the nineteenth century, even though it neither applied to the frontier in North American Indian Wars, nor to small wars and interventions in North Africa or the Americas, nor to the war in the Philippines. There, Heroes found their principal play- ground. Managers, finally, came to the fore in the Civil War and the world wars. They placed the main emphasis on mobilization of resources and on logistics." "Like Ridgway, Taylor challenged the strategic and fiscal emphasis of the Eisenhower administration, but he did it from the perspective of a soldier- scholar and a manager of resources.Taylor fit his political environment: Secretary of Defense Charles Wilson once directed Taylor ‘to substitute requests for “newfangled” items with public appeal instead of the prosaic accoutrements of the foot soldier’." "How did the US army recover from Vietnam? One school of thought stresses the return of strategic focus on the defence of Western Europe and on the Soviet Union as the primary foe. The result of tactical, operational and strategic thinking in the 1970s and 1980s as well as of the arrival of new weapons and communications technology made the army a leaner, more professional high-tech force. Another argument holds that intel- lectual inquiry and debate outweighed technological factors and that the post-Vietnam army was shaped by a new philosophy centred on operational art. By the early 1980s, it was apparent that emphasis on technology and on operational philosophy had merged in the new doctrinal concept of AirLand Battle." "AirLand Battle was written for a new kind of army. The draft had ended in 1973 and the armed forces recruited volunteers as professional soldiers. Beth Bailey shows how the army competed for manpower with the other services and the civilian economy in the greater marketplace. She argues that soldiering was portrayed as a normal profession, albeit one with the underlying rewards of service to the nation and self-betterment through education and the acquisition of skills. Bailey concludes that while the army presented itself as a platform for social equality and opportunity for all Americans throughout the 1980s and 1990s, in the war on terror its self-perception and outward representation turned to the warrior ethos for motivation and identity formation." "What, then, can we conclude about visions of war in the Cold War and their significance for our time? Brian Linn reminds us that we need to study small wars more than world wars and he argued that the US army needs ‘cautious heroes’ to meet the threats of the twenty-first century. Christopher Coker noted that warriors might yet face extinction, despite their apparent comeback in the age of terror, but he abhorred the thought of war without warriors, for it is the warrior ethos that helps us define the boundaries of war. As long as we focus on the East–West conflict, we are likely to conclude that nuclear weapons enforced the ‘long peace’ and military policy was driven by utilitar- ian and ideological needs. The resulting visions of war centred on technology and may better be called nightmares. " tl;dr, liberal states can't mobilize and have spent a great deal of effort trying not to.
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Jun 25, 2023 13:20
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Cheatum the Evil Midget posted:Gonna give you what you need, not what you want Hmmm..... considers all non-"Western" cultures to be failures, references Peter Thiel, calls the Chinese "autistic"....
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Jun 25, 2023 13:21
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Be grateful baby Biden is not named "Yoda".
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Jun 25, 2023 13:21
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brown moses was right this really is like game of thrones
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Jun 25, 2023 13:24
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Maya Fey posted:brown moses was right **finger twitching over probe button**
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Jun 25, 2023 13:27
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Maya Fey posted:brown moses was right that the US was covertly running guns out of Libya to Syria It was his first major report and then I guess he got a phone call
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fizzy posted:and Prigozhin came out looking the more mature and calmer party Catching up with the thread but I almost spit up my water at this line.
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