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Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Guy Axlerod posted:

They go by Gravis.

Have they officially said they are using they/them pronouns now? Last I heard was the FAQ video where it was obvious there was gender stuff but Gravis also said use he/him for now.

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Desert Bus
May 9, 2004

Take 1 tablet by mouth daily.

Arivia posted:

Have they officially said they are using they/them pronouns now? Last I heard was the FAQ video where it was obvious there was gender stuff but Gravis also said use he/him for now.

Off topic but I just default to they/them for anyone and everyone these days. Simplifies things and only pisses off people I don't care about.

Beve Stuscemi
Jun 6, 2001




Yeah, unless you know gravis personally enough to know that detail it’s just easier to use they

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
Gameroom from Packard Bell Navigator 3.5 (1995)

First of May
May 1, 2017
🎵 Bring your favorite lady, or at least your favorite lay! 🎵


Horace posted:

Every one of his videos is “ugh, I’m not watching an hour long video about this” and then you watch an hour long video about that.

I watch at 1.25x speed, but their video drops are always a must-watch click.

3D Megadoodoo
Nov 25, 2010

I just go 2xspeed on everything. No-one speaks fast enough on YouTube.

Arivia
Mar 17, 2011

Beve Stuscemi posted:

Yeah, unless you know gravis personally enough to know that detail it’s just easier to use they

Yeah, but since Gravis has explicitly said use he/him for him in a public video, I've been using he/him. So if that's changed I'd really like to know, as I'm trying to respect their messy gender ball the same as I do with anyone else's messy gender ball (my own included).

Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

3D Megadoodoo posted:

I just go 2xspeed on everything. No-one speaks fast enough on YouTube.

Same here. The only danger is that you get used to that speed, and when you switch back to normal speed for something, evvvvreyonnne sounnnnds druunk.

Dr. Quarex
Apr 18, 2003

I'M A BIG DORK WHO POSTS TOO MUCH ABOUT CONVENTIONS LOOK AT THIS

TOVA TOVA TOVA
I admit I tried it out and was surprised I could still understand everything in the videos I experimented with. Too bad much of my YouTube usage is music so it would be irritating to constantly switch back. If only it could tell when you were just listening to someone talk about old computers

Cat Hassler
Feb 7, 2006

Slippery Tilde

Gonz posted:

Gameroom from Packard Bell Navigator 3.5 (1995)



Man I was working at Microsoft when Bob was being developed and released

Then a coworker moved to a small team wanting to propose a even more literal “desktop” and “storage” and so on but with better graphics,

MS was an interesting place to work at in the 90s :lol:

First of May
May 1, 2017
🎵 Bring your favorite lady, or at least your favorite lay! 🎵


Powered Descent posted:

Same here. The only danger is that you get used to that speed, and when you switch back to normal speed for something, evvvvreyonnne sounnnnds druunk.

I listen to certain podcasts at 0.6x and I experience the opposite*. If I listen to them normal they sound like they are on crack.

*I listen to these podcasts to fall asleep.

lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012




Powered Descent posted:

Same here. The only danger is that you get used to that speed, and when you switch back to normal speed for something, evvvvreyonnne sounnnnds druunk.

Very much this. I usually limit my speed to 1.5x which is a decent compromise of speeding it up and remaining somewhat natural. I have experienced that drunk sounding effect even with that difference. Brains are funny.

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


The netbook era was loving weird dude.

I still got a Vaio netbook from 09 that's utterly garbage, it's extremely slow.

Dip Viscous
Sep 17, 2019

I still have an Acer Aspire One netbook that I got because it was on clearance for $50 and, well, look at how rad it looks.



From a fresh factory restore, the included Windows 7 Starter Edition takes, I am not exaggerating, 16 minutes to boot. Want to open a web browser after that? Ha, ha, go gently caress yourself.

It's actually been a handy little thing when used terminal only, but as sold it's completely useless for even the most basic of tasks.

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.

Negostrike posted:

The netbook era was loving weird dude.

I still got a Vaio netbook from 09 that's utterly garbage, it's extremely slow.

I still have my Asus eeePC around here somewhere. Performance was barely acceptable at the time even with the most lightweight Linux distros available. I really don’t miss that era of computing.

By popular demand
Jul 17, 2007

IT *BZZT* WASP ME--
IT WASP ME ALL *BZZT* ALONG!


What do you keep those weak machines for anyway, NES or 8086 emulators?

Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.
No idea. Just can’t bring myself to chuck out something that technically still works, I guess.

Negostrike
Aug 15, 2015


I eventually gave up on using any flavor of Linux in the Vaio I just installed FreeDOS and played Doom on it.



On the other hand I was pretty amazed by the screen's DPI back then, being so small and 1080p. Today that's pretty much your usual smartphone.

Kazy
Oct 23, 2006

0x38: FLOPPY_INTERNAL_ERROR

Negostrike posted:

I eventually gave up on using any flavor of Linux in the Vaio I just installed FreeDOS and played Doom on it.



On the other hand I was pretty amazed by the screen's DPI back then, being so small and 1080p. Today that's pretty much your usual smartphone.

I've had an orange one of these on my eBay watch list for a while. Would be a neat companion to my Libretto.

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry
I have an MSI Wind (U100) with Cinnamon Mint 32bit installed on it for no good reason. I bought it new and abused the hell out of it.

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Bargearse posted:

I still have my Asus eeePC around here somewhere. Performance was barely acceptable at the time even with the most lightweight Linux distros available. I really don’t miss that era of computing.

I got one of the later eeePCs that came with a real hard drive and an Intel Atom circa... 2009? I installed Debian and it actually worked pretty goddamn well. Used a tiling window manager to maximize that lovely screen real estate. I don't think I could go back to it, but I was happy with the small size and long battery life when I was running all around campus.

Mantle
May 15, 2004

I never had one, but I'm surprised they aren't still useful as what I thought they were originally marketed as-- thin clients. As long as the battery is good (replaced) they should have infinite life as a mobile terminal or remote desktop client?

Pham Nuwen
Oct 30, 2010



Mantle posted:

I never had one, but I'm surprised they aren't still useful as what I thought they were originally marketed as-- thin clients. As long as the battery is good (replaced) they should have infinite life as a mobile terminal or remote desktop client?

You could certainly use one as a SSH client for a long time, especially if you're ok with running outdated software. Back in 2010 I won a drawing for a little ARM netbook (Genesi Smartbook) which had a truly excellent form factor: weighed 900g/2 lbs, only 21mm/0.83" thick, keyboard wasn't too god-awful. I used it as my couch computer for a while, but like a lot of ARM devices it shipped with some hacked-up Linux distro with zero attempt made to upstream, so the kernel never updated and they only maintained a single (outdated) Ubuntu release fork.

Woolie Wool
Jun 2, 2006


By popular demand posted:

What do you keep those weak machines for anyway, NES or 8086 emulators?

why do that when you can have a P3, P4, or K7 that runs all those things better and runs old PC games natively

Mantle
May 15, 2004

Pham Nuwen posted:

You could certainly use one as a SSH client for a long time, especially if you're ok with running outdated software. Back in 2010 I won a drawing for a little ARM netbook (Genesi Smartbook) which had a truly excellent form factor: weighed 900g/2 lbs, only 21mm/0.83" thick, keyboard wasn't too god-awful. I used it as my couch computer for a while, but like a lot of ARM devices it shipped with some hacked-up Linux distro with zero attempt made to upstream, so the kernel never updated and they only maintained a single (outdated) Ubuntu release fork.

I would expect the eeePCs to have modern Linux support. Unless they are 32 bit Intel? I have a VIA C7 desktop to use as a kids first computer but even now it's only supported by Debian 32 bit and who knows for how much longer.

legooolas
Jul 30, 2004

Mantle posted:

I would expect the eeePCs to have modern Linux support. Unless they are 32 bit Intel? I have a VIA C7 desktop to use as a kids first computer but even now it's only supported by Debian 32 bit and who knows for how much longer.

They are 32-bit if they are N270 Atom chips, which at least some of them were.

I had an EeePC 901 and it was pretty unusable. Keyboard just too small to be properly usable, processor horribly slow even for back then, and it had two tiny SSDs in it, one of which was 4GB and decently fast (but only 4GB) and one which was 16GB and basically useless due to being SO SLOW. Like slower than a basic spinning rust disk from the same era.

The slightly bigger ones (1005HA I also used for a while) were a bit better as they could have a normal 2.5" SATA SSD in them, but still had insipid CPUs.


I did, however have an Atom N270 box (mini itx, not a laptop) as a low power MythTV server, recording broadcast TV for years, and it did a fine job of that.


These of course are all running at light speed compared to the PCs of yesteryear, but we expect a lot more from a PC to just "do basic stuff on" now.

Humbug Scoolbus
Apr 25, 2008

The scarlet letter was her passport into regions where other women dared not tread. Shame, Despair, Solitude! These had been her teachers, stern and wild ones, and they had made her strong, but taught her much amiss.
Clapping Larry
The MSI Wind had an Atom N270 as well, along with up to 2GB of RAM. Mine has a 100GB SSD in it and it still just kind of works. Mainly because I installed a superlightweight LInux distro in it.

CaptainSarcastic
Jul 6, 2013



Dip Viscous posted:

I still have an Acer Aspire One netbook that I got because it was on clearance for $50 and, well, look at how rad it looks.



From a fresh factory restore, the included Windows 7 Starter Edition takes, I am not exaggerating, 16 minutes to boot. Want to open a web browser after that? Ha, ha, go gently caress yourself.

It's actually been a handy little thing when used terminal only, but as sold it's completely useless for even the most basic of tasks.

I've got a different model that is slightly larger and has an AMD dual-core, and after bumping the RAM to 4GB and putting in an SSD it is still slow, but usable. I ran Linux on it for a while, but this year I threw ChromeOS on it and it is actually not bad. I gave it to my dad as a back-up computer, but he forgot the password and I need to sort that out (I'd forgotten until this post made me remember).

lobsterminator
Oct 16, 2012




CaptainSarcastic posted:

I've got a different model that is slightly larger and has an AMD dual-core, and after bumping the RAM to 4GB and putting in an SSD it is still slow, but usable. I ran Linux on it for a while, but this year I threw ChromeOS on it and it is actually not bad. I gave it to my dad as a back-up computer, but he forgot the password and I need to sort that out (I'd forgotten until this post made me remember).

SSDs were one of the single most game changing technological leaps. They added several years of longevity to computers. Basic computer use doesn't need too much power, but HDDs made everything a chore.

barbecue at the folks
Jul 20, 2007


My parents used one of those Asus Atom chip netbooks as their main computer for years back around 2010. I still can't fathom how.

Gromit
Aug 15, 2000

I am an oppressed White Male, Asian women wont serve me! Save me Campbell Newman!!!!!!!
I won an HP 2133 Atom-powered mini-notebook that was a very cute form factor but pretty weak. Windows on it was not very special but Linux went on fine.

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Powered Descent
Jul 13, 2008

We haven't had that spirit here since 1969.

I still fondly recall my old Toshiba netbook, an N250 or thereabouts, from around 2010. With some extra memory, a cheap SSD and a lightweight Linux distro, that thing stayed useful WAY longer than it should have.



Strangely, while the processor was officially 64-bit, there must have been something half-assed about it because 64-bit Linux was always painfully slow. So I just kept using the 32-bit editions, which ran a lot better. Never did figure out what the deal was with that.

snorch
Jul 27, 2009
On the topic of Netbooks, I've got an older Asus that has an NVidia Ion I can't quite coax into working anymore. Through some combination of display switching it seems to have completely forgotten about the Ion and defaults to the intel graphics instead. Even reinstalling the drivers, this machine pretends there's no such thing as nvidia graphics on board. I think I'll have to try and find an old Windows where all the Asus support software still works as well, I refuse to let this old gaming craptop forget its identity.

ExcessBLarg!
Sep 1, 2001

Powered Descent posted:

Strangely, while the processor was officially 64-bit, there must have been something half-assed about it because 64-bit Linux was always painfully slow.
It may well have been slower due to pointers being twice as large and not having as much cache efficiency. Since the machine only had 1 GB of RAM the only real advantage to running long mode is the additional registers (assuming software compiled for it was actually taking useful advantage of them).

Linux has an x32 ABI to take advantage of long mode registers while maintaining smaller pointers, but I don't think it sees much use.

namlosh
Feb 11, 2014

I name this haircut "The Sad Rhino".
Everyone’s mentioned lightweight distros… what’s a good one to use nowadays? I seem to remember puppy and lubuntu, lol

I have an old Chromebook I’d like to get something on. I’ve done it before, so know all of the weird steps and they’re already done (had to open it up and remove a screw that locked the BIOS or some such craziness)
Acer C720 iirc

Mr-Spain
Aug 27, 2003

Bullshit... you can be mine.
Starting casing up of the 286, the case is major overkill but also the only other AT case I have is slated for my 486 build. Got the SD-IDE converter mounted without taking up a drive bay and also looking like poo poo, which I'm super pleased about, and working on wire management right now. I really should have ran the floppy under the mobo but we will see how it ends up. Also don't like how the speaker is just hanging out but it might be on there with adhesive so we will see if it gets moved.


Bargearse
Nov 27, 2006

🛑 Don't get your pen🖊️, son, you won't be 👌 needing that 😌. My 🥡 order's 💁 simple😉, a shitload 💩 of dim sims 🌯🀄. And I want a bucket 🪣 of soya sauce☕😋.

namlosh posted:

Everyone’s mentioned lightweight distros… what’s a good one to use nowadays? I seem to remember puppy and lubuntu, lol

I have an old Chromebook I’d like to get something on. I’ve done it before, so know all of the weird steps and they’re already done (had to open it up and remove a screw that locked the BIOS or some such craziness)
Acer C720 iirc

I don’t know if it counts as lightweight but I typically use EndeavourOS. It’s Arch based and gets acceptable performance on a ThinkPad X61.

Humphreys
Jan 26, 2013

We conceived a way to use my mother as a porn mule


All this netbook talk was aptly timed as I literally grabbed my MSI Wind U100 last night with a USB-TTL adaptor to unbrick a router!

Gonz
Dec 22, 2009

"Jesus, did I say that? Or just think it? Was I talking? Did they hear me?"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZhSK0pL3B-8

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You Am I
May 20, 2001

Me @ your poasting

Got the logic board on my Mac SE/30 recapped as most of the surface mount caps were starting to leak, but not enough to damage components.

I didn't power up the Mac before it got recapped, as I didn't want to damage it further. Got the logic board back and saw this when I powered it up:



Did a bit of digging, it could be a number of things, it can be an issue with ROM slot, some logic chips or an issue with the analog board. I connected the logic board to my working Mac SE and all is fine there, start up chime and happy Mac screen, so not an issue with the logic board.

Ran a multimeter over the power to the logic board, both the +12v and -12v rails were giving me unstable readings. The solder had cracked on the back of the connector on the logic board. Reflowing the connector gave me this:



All happy again. Got it booting up happily off my BlueSCSI:

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