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Giant Octopus
Feb 23, 2015

Randalor posted:

Cool, cool, so have they just started calling it a slot machine, or more to the point, gambling?

Plenty of other bad stuff going down, but this specifically is not true. People are saying gacha and talking about the update in every channel with no repurcussions.

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Shwqa
Feb 13, 2012

Giant Octopus posted:

Plenty of other bad stuff going down, but this specifically is not true. People are saying gacha and talking about the update in every channel with no repurcussions.

I got a relatively high level account in that discord that I don't care about. I'll straight up asked what happened and expressed my disapproval. So far no bans or anything.

Zokari
Jul 23, 2007

i can't imagine the dev was unaware of how gross this was, really doubt any changes will be happening

somekindofguy
Mar 9, 2011
Grimey Drawer
Part of me acknowledges that paywalling a feature and not giving a good way to grind currency out as a Bad Thing...but another part of me feels, I don't know, "allergic" to the "fanbase" response?

I think it stems from a Flash game I played a while back, where the devs introduced a lockbox with a premium, and the playerbase *freaked* over it. We're talking thread after thread, and endless bitching about the devs being like EA (because of course).The devs eventually relented on it, but I feel like the damage was done in my mind. Devs made a bad call, and the players ended up looking like whiny babies to me.

Not to mention there seems to be a group of people with an axe to grind against the IdleOn Dev because they got banned or something. And the usual rumors getting pushed around as fact we might be seeing in this very thread. It's a mess. Maybe I'll take a break or something lest I get wrapped up in idle game drama of all things.

(Not the dev.)

Kyrosiris
May 24, 2006

You try to be happy when everyone is summoning you everywhere to "be their friend".



You do not, in fact, have to hand it to 'em

GetDunked
Dec 16, 2011

respectfully
It's possible for it to be both an incredibly stupid and nearsighted addition and also for people to overreact to it

Arzaac
Jan 2, 2020


I haven't been playing his games for a while because he's been slowly adding more insidious microtransactions so this is just more of the same, tbh

Jhet
Jun 3, 2013
Yeah, it’s not as if paid loot boxes is a new bad thing. We all know it’s predatory and anyone adding them to a game will likely know the reaction that will come. And probably doesn’t care.

pixaal
Jan 8, 2004

All ice cream is now for all beings, no matter how many legs.


Lootboxes can be fine, but almost no one does them well. A good lootbox system should be entirely limited pool once you have something there is 1 less in the pool so with enough draws you can't draw. Then you have to have enough free currency that it's reasonable for a F2P character to have 80%+ of all draws completed.

Balancing them is insanely hard and I've run into maybe 3-4 games total that did it well. At that point though you just have an RNG loot distribution system with extra steps. God I can't imagine the community fallout over mentioning it if worth it, because of how often they are abused. The only possible way now is a complete joke item and making it clear it's a parody and no way to buy with real money and even then I suspect it's not worth making.

Spokes
Jan 9, 2010

Thanks for a MONSTER of an avatar, Awful Survivor Mods!

somekindofguy posted:

Part of me acknowledges that paywalling a feature and not giving a good way to grind currency out as a Bad Thing...but

no, i don't think you need to say "but" here

ZZT the Fifth
Dec 6, 2006
I shot the invisible swordsman.
Serves me right for not checking. I apologize for taking misinformation at face value and amplifying it.

Virigoth
Apr 28, 2009

Corona rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M. get the virus
In the ICU y'all......



Shwqa posted:

I got a relatively high level account in that discord that I don't care about. I'll straight up asked what happened and expressed my disapproval. So far no bans or anything.

Terrible thing to have to do on your birthday. Happy birthday tho.

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

somekindofguy posted:

I think it stems from a Flash game I played a while back, where the devs introduced a lockbox with a premium, and the playerbase *freaked* over it. We're talking thread after thread, and endless bitching about the devs being like EA (because of course).The devs eventually relented on it, but I feel like the damage was done in my mind. Devs made a bad call, and the players ended up looking like whiny babies to me.

If your description is meant to make me think the players are wrong here, it's really not succeeding.

Chakan
Mar 30, 2011

Virigoth posted:

Terrible thing to have to do on your birthday. Happy birthday tho.

lmao, can’t get away from it.

Evolve 4* Orbital Decay sucks and is slow! I’ll check back in a couple weeks.

Rynoto
Apr 27, 2009
It doesn't help that I'm fat as fuck, so my face shouldn't be shown off in the first place.

Chakan posted:

lmao, can’t get away from it.

Evolve 4* Orbital Decay sucks and is slow! I’ll check back in a couple weeks.

Yep. And the perk from it is middling at best as custom planets are kind of eh. Being able to roll planets into weirder and weirder versions is the funniest part but dubiously useful.

4* Matrix was pretty wild at the end, and the new species are pretty great. Especially Ghast with inheritance for Swift.

Collecting Servants and Skilled Servants is a good break from collecting Stones/Artifacts.

Rynoto fucked around with this message at 01:15 on Jun 22, 2023

Giant Octopus
Feb 23, 2015

GetDunked posted:

It's possible for it to be both an incredibly stupid and nearsighted addition and also for people to overreact to it

I think this is pretty accurate. The top end of the gacha in this case is probably the biggest "purchasable" bonus in the game by a wide margin. Adding it at all seems like a mistake, and makes putting it behind any sort of monetisation look like the greediest of greedy greeds. But people are also using the event to complain about when they were banned for cheating or make wild accusations about the dev's political affiliations which is a strange move at best.

Randalor
Sep 4, 2011



Does Evolve go off your system's clock for determining when events are? I didn't realize the solstice event was about to start when I started a 4* run and I'm pretty sure I won't have enough thermite made before the end.

Rynoto
Apr 27, 2009
It doesn't help that I'm fat as fuck, so my face shouldn't be shown off in the first place.

Randalor posted:

Does Evolve go off your system's clock for determining when events are? I didn't realize the solstice event was about to start when I started a 4* run and I'm pretty sure I won't have enough thermite made before the end.

Yes it does*

Some events don't work correctly though like Halloween and Easter which add special collectibles and bonus gifts. Unsure if Solstice does but things generally work between updates.

Rynoto fucked around with this message at 18:25 on Jun 22, 2023

Shwqa
Feb 13, 2012

Virigoth posted:

Terrible thing to have to do on your birthday. Happy birthday tho.

You remembered :unsmith:

Len
Jan 21, 2008

Pouches, bandages, shoulderpad, cyber-eye...

Bitchin'!


Since the incremental games reddit are still protesting where are y'all finding games?

They have a discord channel but I can't possibly think of a worse place to keep an eye on new games than a chat room.

scaterry
Sep 12, 2012

Len posted:

Since the incremental games reddit are still protesting where are y'all finding games?

They have a discord channel but I can't possibly think of a worse place to keep an eye on new games than a chat room.

https://www.incrementaldb.com/
https://galaxy.click/
https://itch.io/games/platform-web/tag-incremental
https://plaza.dsolver.ca/
https://www.reddit.com/r/incremental_games/wiki/list_of_incremental_games/


There's one more I'm missing, but I forgot what it's called. It allows playing incremental games on the same website, mostly prestige tree variants

Virigoth
Apr 28, 2009

Corona rules everything around me
C.R.E.A.M. get the virus
In the ICU y'all......



Len posted:

Since the incremental games reddit are still protesting where are y'all finding games?

They have a discord channel but I can't possibly think of a worse place to keep an eye on new games than a chat room.

I might break free. I can smell freedom!!!! Right after this prestige.

Xtanstic
Nov 23, 2007

In USI:

"Man this crew mechanic is slow, I haven't gotten a single mastery point and I'm many weeks into unlocking it, maybe I should read the Help Screen"

Oh. I'm supposed to retire them. Whoops.

Tei
Feb 19, 2011

Len posted:

Since the incremental games reddit are still protesting where are y'all finding games?

They have a discord channel but I can't possibly think of a worse place to keep an eye on new games than a chat room.

I am using this thread. Albeit sometimes is hard because you could come here and find everyone talk about a new game like is great, and they mention it only by his initials "I just unlocked positronic engines in QO, is a great game, I am having lots of fun".

Sivart13
May 18, 2003
I have neglected to come up with a clever title

Virigoth posted:

I might break free. I can smell freedom!!!! Right after this prestige.
as long as the sub stays down the lasting impact of the Reddit protests will be saving me 4-6 hours from being sucked into Snorks Clicker or whatever the next random thing someone drops is

I have no interest in continuing USI so this thread has no power over me 😎

Super Jay Mann
Nov 6, 2008

Trying out Ironwood RPG, sent a request (under jman2050) to GOONS if that's fine.

Nervous
Jan 25, 2005

Why, hello, my little slice of pecan pie.

Sivart13 posted:

as long as the sub stays down the lasting impact of the Reddit protests will be saving me 4-6 hours from being sucked into Snorks Clicker or whatever the next random thing someone drops is

I have no interest in continuing USI so this thread has no power over me 😎

I'm almost to the Snorkerella prestige layer.

New Yorp New Yorp
Jul 18, 2003

Only in Kenya.
Pillbug

Xtanstic posted:

In USI:

"Man this crew mechanic is slow, I haven't gotten a single mastery point and I'm many weeks into unlocking it, maybe I should read the Help Screen"

Oh. I'm supposed to retire them. Whoops.

Yeah, you can get all of the crew members up to level 2 mastery right now. The last one requires a few days of waiting to build up biosleeves but isn't too bad. It's also possible to get most if not all of the cumulative level bonuses, although I'm still missing the last 3 from both acumen and proficiency.

Lottery of Babylon
Apr 25, 2012

STRAIGHT TROPIN'

New Yorp New Yorp posted:

Yeah, you can get all of the crew members up to level 2 mastery right now. The last one requires a few days of waiting to build up biosleeves but isn't too bad. It's also possible to get most if not all of the cumulative level bonuses, although I'm still missing the last 3 from both acumen and proficiency.

You can get all of the cumulative level bonuses, but Acumen is harder than the others to complete.

Theoretically you can start getting Mastery 3's, but even the easiest ones will take about a month even with the Reconstitution Specialist's help. And you can't get the Reconstitution Specialist's help with that if you want to farm Warp Essence at the same time, so realistically it's likely closer to a month and a half?

LeFishy
Jul 21, 2010
Feeling good because I finally reached the end of the available content in an incremental. Dodeca Dragons really clicked with me for some reason and though the last couple of days where just waiting to get the dodecahedrons required for the final upgrade it was a neat experience and I'll keep an eye out for future updates I guess!

Time to find something new.

thark
Mar 3, 2008

bork

LeFishy posted:

Feeling good because I finally reached the end of the available content in an incremental. Dodeca Dragons really clicked with me for some reason and though the last couple of days where just waiting to get the dodecahedrons required for the final upgrade it was a neat experience and I'll keep an eye out for future updates I guess!

Wasn't there in fact an update to Dodeca this week?

LeFishy
Jul 21, 2010

thark posted:

Wasn't there in fact an update to Dodeca this week?

Yes, I was very close to the end of the previous content but I can't see any buttons unclicked or achievements unachieved anymore.

Checking out Calculator Evolution now.

ToxicFrog
Apr 26, 2008


I tend to go through long (1-2 years) periods of not playing any idle games and then get really into them for a few weeks, and apparently right now is this year's "few weeks" and I just discovered USI, so.

I'm actually enjoying it a lot, although I'm kind of stalling out in sector 19; I might just need to leave it running for a few days to max out some of the T2 materials so I can go nuts with synth module upgrades.

Rynoto
Apr 27, 2009
It doesn't help that I'm fat as fuck, so my face shouldn't be shown off in the first place.
Evolve Idle:
Playing with custom races after all the recent changes and 4* Eldritch Genus + Mimic for Small + Swift, Fiery, and Slaver has led to probably the most powerful species yet, if you haven't gotten to try it. 4* Eldritch is mid-late game unlock but well worth it even at no-to-3* for the Thralls you get - 4* only needed for max power Psychic. Do have to genemod out Tormented but eh, well worth it.

Rynoto fucked around with this message at 04:06 on Jul 2, 2023

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


in unnamed space idle I feel like I'm missing something. I cannot seem to do these challenges really. I have all the way up through orange synths fully maxxed and relaxed and working on red now but I cannot seem to beat the 4th and 5th of the synth challenges. Same with the power ones I can't beat the 4th and 5th. Bases I'm stuck on 2/5 and computing is 2/9. SOS send help. I am currently on wave 41 and basically grinding it out there.





have this as my setup. I don't even have the crew stuff unlocked and I feel like I'm playing wrong somehow.

SOS plz help

nrook
Jun 25, 2009

Just let yourself become a worthless person!
fe000000 is still so loving good

beautiful game

Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!

Ramadu posted:

in unnamed space idle I feel like I'm missing something. I cannot seem to do these challenges really. I have all the way up through orange synths fully maxxed and relaxed and working on red now but I cannot seem to beat the 4th and 5th of the synth challenges. Same with the power ones I can't beat the 4th and 5th. Bases I'm stuck on 2/5 and computing is 2/9. SOS send help. I am currently on wave 41 and basically grinding it out there.





have this as my setup. I don't even have the crew stuff unlocked and I feel like I'm playing wrong somehow.

SOS plz help

Post ur save

Count Thrashula
Jun 1, 2003

Death is nothing compared to vindication.
Buglord
I haven't played an idle game since Cookie Clicker and that ASCII one years ago (Candy Box?) , what's the new hotness these days?

Count Thrashula fucked around with this message at 04:23 on Jul 4, 2023

Ramadu
Aug 25, 2004

2015 NFL MVP


Toshimo posted:

Post ur save

https://pastes.io/myl16etm8q

here you go

Ramadu fucked around with this message at 04:22 on Jul 4, 2023

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Toshimo
Aug 23, 2012

He's outta line...

But he's right!

For those playing at home, the answer was unbound research.

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