Register a SA Forums Account here!
JOINING THE SA FORUMS WILL REMOVE THIS BIG AD, THE ANNOYING UNDERLINED ADS, AND STUPID INTERSTITIAL ADS!!!

You can: log in, read the tech support FAQ, or request your lost password. This dumb message (and those ads) will appear on every screen until you register! Get rid of this crap by registering your own SA Forums Account and joining roughly 150,000 Goons, for the one-time price of $9.95! We charge money because it costs us money per month for bills, and since we don't believe in showing ads to our users, we try to make the money back through forum registrations.
What is the most powerful flying bug?
This poll is closed.
🦋 15 3.71%
🦇 115 28.47%
🪰 12 2.97%
🐦 67 16.58%
dragonfly 94 23.27%
🦟 14 3.47%
🐝 87 21.53%
Total: 404 votes
[Edit Poll (moderators only)]

 
  • Post
  • Reply
stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

euphronius posted:

isn’t it Medvedev?

I guess he’s getting old too

Supposedly Medvedev is too "west", or too liberal.

In a lot of these "long time leader appointing a successor" situation the dying leader would choose a little known person who would most likely continue his policy and defend his legacy. Like for example Khomeini appointed Khamenei (who had no religious credential but it didn't matter he was able to made the succession work); or like Mao appointing Hua Guofeng, who had pretty low seniority and didn't last very long until Deng pushed him out.

stephenthinkpad has issued a correction as of 14:52 on Jun 26, 2023

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



Western intelligence/media are a hoot. Its just a hodgepodge of inconsistentencies. Putin has been weakened considerably by this, also we dont know why Prig turned around ALSO an attack by wagner from belarus would be suicide do not attempt!

fizzy
Dec 2, 2022

by Jeffrey of YOSPOS
Remarkable news for Germany - Alternative für Deutschland has won a district council election in Germany for the first time, attesting to the diversity and vitality of the democratic system in this key NATO member state.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/26/far-right-afd-wins-local-election-watershed-moment-german-politics

Far-right AfD wins local election in ‘watershed moment’ for German politics
Mon 26 Jun 2023 13.14 BST

The far-right Alternative für Deutschland has won a district council election in Germany for the first time, in what is being referred to as a watershed moment in the country’s politics.

The eastern town of Sonneberg, in the state of Thuringia, elected Robert Sesselmann to the post of district administrator, the equivalent of a mayor, with 52.8% of the vote, ousting the Christian Democrats’ (CDU) Jurgen Köpper on 47.2%.

The Thuringia branch of the anti-immigrant party has been classed as rightwing extremist by intelligence services. It is led by Björn Höcke, who is considered to be part of the AfD’s far right or völkisch wing, which was officially disbanded but is still widely believed to exist.

Far-right AfD wins local election in ‘watershed moment’ for German politics

Central Council of Jews says it is devastated by populist party’s first victory in eastern town of Sonneberg
Kate Connolly in Berlin
Mon 26 Jun 2023 13.14 BST
Last modified on Mon 26 Jun 2023 13.22 BST

The far-right Alternative für Deutschland has won a district council election in Germany for the first time, in what is being referred to as a watershed moment in the country’s politics.

The eastern town of Sonneberg, in the state of Thuringia, elected Robert Sesselmann to the post of district administrator, the equivalent of a mayor, with 52.8% of the vote, ousting the Christian Democrats’ (CDU) Jurgen Köpper on 47.2%.

The Thuringia branch of the anti-immigrant party has been classed as rightwing extremist by intelligence services. It is led by Björn Höcke, who is considered to be part of the AfD’s far right or völkisch wing, which was officially disbanded but is still widely believed to exist.

Observers say the win, which AfD’s leadership said would give the party a much-needed boost in its efforts to expand its influence across Germany, could be a bellwether for upcoming votes, in particular in the east. State parliament elections are taking place next year in Saxony, Thuringia and Brandenburg.

...

The Central Council of Jews in Germany said it was devastated by the result. “To be clear, not everyone who voted for the AfD has a rightwing extremist mindset,” its president, Josef Schuster, told the Jüdische Allgemeine newspaper. “But the party whose candidate they have elected is, according to the regional intelligence service, rightwing extremist … This is the bursting of a dam, which the political powers in this country cannot simply take on the chin.”

Christoph Heubner, the executive vice-president of the International Auschwitz Committee, called it a “sad day” for Sonneberg, Germany and democracy. “A majority of voters have turned their backs on democracy and deliberately decided in favour of a rightwing extremist, Nazi-dominated party of destruction,” he said.

...

Latest polls showed the AfD on 20%, more than double what its support was a year ago, and similar to the Social Democrats, with the Greens on 13% and the opposition CDU on 26%.

...

As part of his campaign, Sesselmann called for the government of Olaf Scholz to strive for a peace agreement with Moscow over its invasion of Ukraine, and opposed Germany’s military support to Kyiv. While locals voiced concerns on these issues, they more often cited dissatisfaction over living standards and low pay and pensions compared with their western German counterparts, as well as a feeling that their backgrounds, as citizens of the former communist east, were not taken seriously.

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy

fizzy posted:

attesting to the diversity and vitality of the democratic system in this key NATO member state.

democracy ftw

Al-Saqr
Nov 11, 2007

One Day I Will Return To Your Side.
WOW hitler won 30% of the vote in 1932! a victory for democracy!!

CODChimera
Jan 29, 2009

fizzy posted:

Remarkable news for Germany - Alternative für Deutschland has won a district council election in Germany for the first time, attesting to the diversity and vitality of the democratic system in this key NATO member state.


https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/26/far-right-afd-wins-local-election-watershed-moment-german-politics

Far-right AfD wins local election in ‘watershed moment’ for German politics
Mon 26 Jun 2023 13.14 BST

The far-right Alternative für Deutschland has won a district council election in Germany for the first time, in what is being referred to as a watershed moment in the country’s politics.

The eastern town of Sonneberg, in the state of Thuringia, elected Robert Sesselmann to the post of district administrator, the equivalent of a mayor, with 52.8% of the vote, ousting the Christian Democrats’ (CDU) Jurgen Köpper on 47.2%.

The Thuringia branch of the anti-immigrant party has been classed as rightwing extremist by intelligence services. It is led by Björn Höcke, who is considered to be part of the AfD’s far right or völkisch wing, which was officially disbanded but is still widely believed to exist.

Far-right AfD wins local election in ‘watershed moment’ for German politics

Central Council of Jews says it is devastated by populist party’s first victory in eastern town of Sonneberg
Kate Connolly in Berlin
Mon 26 Jun 2023 13.14 BST
Last modified on Mon 26 Jun 2023 13.22 BST

The far-right Alternative für Deutschland has won a district council election in Germany for the first time, in what is being referred to as a watershed moment in the country’s politics.

The eastern town of Sonneberg, in the state of Thuringia, elected Robert Sesselmann to the post of district administrator, the equivalent of a mayor, with 52.8% of the vote, ousting the Christian Democrats’ (CDU) Jurgen Köpper on 47.2%.

The Thuringia branch of the anti-immigrant party has been classed as rightwing extremist by intelligence services. It is led by Björn Höcke, who is considered to be part of the AfD’s far right or völkisch wing, which was officially disbanded but is still widely believed to exist.

Observers say the win, which AfD’s leadership said would give the party a much-needed boost in its efforts to expand its influence across Germany, could be a bellwether for upcoming votes, in particular in the east. State parliament elections are taking place next year in Saxony, Thuringia and Brandenburg.

...

The Central Council of Jews in Germany said it was devastated by the result. “To be clear, not everyone who voted for the AfD has a rightwing extremist mindset,” its president, Josef Schuster, told the Jüdische Allgemeine newspaper. “But the party whose candidate they have elected is, according to the regional intelligence service, rightwing extremist … This is the bursting of a dam, which the political powers in this country cannot simply take on the chin.”

Christoph Heubner, the executive vice-president of the International Auschwitz Committee, called it a “sad day” for Sonneberg, Germany and democracy. “A majority of voters have turned their backs on democracy and deliberately decided in favour of a rightwing extremist, Nazi-dominated party of destruction,” he said.

...

Latest polls showed the AfD on 20%, more than double what its support was a year ago, and similar to the Social Democrats, with the Greens on 13% and the opposition CDU on 26%.

...

As part of his campaign, Sesselmann called for the government of Olaf Scholz to strive for a peace agreement with Moscow over its invasion of Ukraine, and opposed Germany’s military support to Kyiv. While locals voiced concerns on these issues, they more often cited dissatisfaction over living standards and low pay and pensions compared with their western German counterparts, as well as a feeling that their backgrounds, as citizens of the former communist east, were not taken seriously.

is this good news for ukraine or bad news for russia?

gradenko_2000
Oct 5, 2010

HELL SERPENT
Lipstick Apathy
https://twitter.com/Kornphlake/status/1673291634249793537

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

Al-Saqr posted:

WOW hitler won 30% of the vote in 1932! a victory for democracy!!

It's a good thing when diverse views can achieve representation at the highest levels of government. It allows us to pick and choose from the marketplace of ideas.

spacemang_spliff
Nov 29, 2014

wide pickle

smart guy

https://twitter.com/Kornphlake/status/1673305305524969473

Cao Ni Ma
May 25, 2010



drat far right christian populists in Germany making ground? They probably have a lot in common with a certain someone we love to kiss on the lips

Cerebral Bore
Apr 21, 2010


Fun Shoe

stephenthinkpad posted:

Supposedly Medvedev is too "west", or too liberal.

In a lot of these "long time leader appointing a successor" situation the dying leader would choose a little known person who would most likely continue his policy and defend his legacy. Like for example Khomeini appointed Khamenei (who had no religious credential but it didn't matter he was able to made the succession work); or like Mao appointing Hua Guofeng, who had pretty low seniority and didn't last very long until Deng pushed him out.

or yeltsin appointing putin?


by not obediently starving to death the iraqis brought the war on themselves, really. after all we are the good guys and they are the baddies

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

Pener Kropoopkin posted:

Everyone who isn't CIA raise your hands.

Heh. Oldest trick in the book...

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

OctaMurk posted:

putin and jefferey of yospos organized this event to re-energize the Forums, and it was successful given the excellent engagement over the weekend

Occam's Razor confirms this

Vomik
Jul 29, 2003

This post is dedicated to the brave Mujahideen fighters of Afghanistan

Frosted Flake posted:

So wait, in 2001, were there two different companies, one called 5.10 and one called 5.11 that were aimed at granola outdoors people? One became operator gear and the other is now an Adidas brands?

one was five ten and the other 5.11 - the terms come from rock climbing grades and they were targeted at climbers not granola people (although Yosemite climber culture is what modern granola still apes). 5.11 was purchased by some guy who (apparently?) noticed lots of fbi guys wearing them and started marketing directly to LE and military.

the one I’m familiar with, wild things, was approached by us special forces in 2002 or whatever to produce all the SF cold weather gear. tbh I thought that’s where the obsession with highly technical materials came from since they were pioneering “light and fast” gear using never before used fabrics. that company produces nothing but military poo poo now lol

today though almost every single hunting gear outfitter or outdoor gear outfitter has a military/LE arm - probably because it’s high ROI grifting the morons at DOD

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013
arcteryx mastered the clothing grift

sullat
Jan 9, 2012

tazjin posted:

I don't think so. I regularly read stuff about e.g. various governors being long-time acquaintances of Putin.

Personal gut feeling take: In the next one, probably low. In the one after that, probably high. He'll just be too old. He regularly gets this questions at interviews and refuses to give a clear answer.

Portofino Diaz used to claim that he was going to retire and then anyone who jumped up to campaign to be his replacement would be arrested or shot. Never be the first to volunteer!

Clip-On Fedora
Feb 20, 2011


There are many people who would unironically like this.

shyduck
Oct 3, 2003


Also many people don't know that some products, like some cereals for instance, come from the same manufacturer but are just packaged and sold at different price points despite being the same exact corn flakes or whatever

Bar Crow
Oct 10, 2012
Democracy works the same way. The illusion of choice. Hundreds of different weirdos pulled out of modeling agency, CIA offices, and hate groups who all basically agree on everything.

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013
they're made at the same manufacturer but the actual corn flakes or whatever are likely to use a different recipe, and in some cases may go through a different quality assurance process. thats just contract manufacturing and applies to everything from chicken breasts to sneakers.

other products like milk and bread it can be more common for it to actually be literally the same milk in different packaging, but again there can be some differences in the actual bread formulation

yes theyre ultimately interchangeable

Nix Panicus
Feb 25, 2007

The nuclear power plant ploy is 100% going to work, and after they blow it up the US will introduce mandatory two minute hate for Russia

euphronius
Feb 18, 2009

please do not reference Orwell, tyia

Digital Jedi
May 28, 2007

Fallen Rib

mawarannahr posted:

Gunther ftw

He rules

https://youtube.com/watch?v=Ao8BsUljRnw&feature=share7

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

OctaMurk posted:

arcteryx mastered the clothing grift

They have a contract with the Canadian Government though, the SF guys don't buy their own $3500 parkas or whatever. Same deal with Kifaru and their bespoke rucksacks.

I've seen a shift as many of the Operator brands are now mostly worn by Vancouver condo dwelling PMC: arcteryx, North Face, Polartec, Black Diamond, Outdoor Research

Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 16:57 on Jun 26, 2023

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005


stephenthinkpad
Jan 2, 2020

OctaMurk posted:

arcteryx mastered the clothing grift

I am guilty of the acrteryx fandom. Although their fabrics are usually more comfortable than the competing outdoor brands. I say all the premium outdoor brands have different types of quality clothing they are specialize in and then the rest 90% of their lines are overpriced.

Its not different from urban youth over paying their sneakers.

Also alot of outdoor fabrics and sport fabrics are basically the same but with different marketing cater to different niches. Its like manly black colored razor vs pink colored razor for women.

Turtle Sandbox
Dec 31, 2007

by Fluffdaddy

Vomik posted:

one was five ten and the other 5.11 - the terms come from rock climbing grades and they were targeted at climbers not granola people (although Yosemite climber culture is what modern granola still apes). 5.11 was purchased by some guy who (apparently?) noticed lots of fbi guys wearing them and started marketing directly to LE and military.

the one I’m familiar with, wild things, was approached by us special forces in 2002 or whatever to produce all the SF cold weather gear. tbh I thought that’s where the obsession with highly technical materials came from since they were pioneering “light and fast” gear using never before used fabrics. that company produces nothing but military poo poo now lol

today though almost every single hunting gear outfitter or outdoor gear outfitter has a military/LE arm - probably because it’s high ROI grifting the morons at DOD

Does the DOD formally purchase 5.11s? I remember some ranger making fun of dudes who had gone out and bought 5.11 I thought the implications was fresh boots buying aftermarket poo poo they won't use after hauling it around pointlessly got old.

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Arktis is the only one that still literally only makes the commando smock, so far as I know, without brightly coloured tee shirts, hats and quarter zips.

Turtle Sandbox posted:

Does the DOD formally purchase 5.11s? I remember some ranger making fun of dudes who had gone out and bought 5.11 I thought the implications was fresh boots buying aftermarket poo poo they won't use after hauling it around pointlessly got old.

CANSOFCOM is allowed to make commercial off the shelf purchases out of a special budget. This, in my experience, mostly goes towards blinged out absolutely Gucci gear, that's otherwise not much better than government issue.

Megamissen
Jul 19, 2022

any post can be a kannapost
if you want it to be

tazjin posted:

lol so all random russian news pages, even internal ones, are blocked there now?


seems like it, tried going to rt.com and got the same result

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005
its better in the west. we live in free countries, with free access to information

no no no not like that

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Ukraine war understanders are putting out the most mealy mouthed bullshit I swear to God



"What is 'success' anyway?"

:thunk:



:thunk:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=olH2-_Gtczw

Frosted Flake has issued a correction as of 17:06 on Jun 26, 2023

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

stephenthinkpad posted:

I am guilty of the acrteryx fandom. Although their fabrics are usually more comfortable than the competing outdoor brands. I say all the premium outdoor brands have different types of quality clothing they are specialize in and then the rest 90% of their lines are overpriced.

Its not different from urban youth over paying their sneakers.

Also alot of outdoor fabrics and sport fabrics are basically the same but with different marketing cater to different niches. Its like manly black colored razor vs pink colored razor for women.

i riff on arcteryx because they have worse sales than everybody else so ive never picked up any of their gear, but it does feel nice and their design team is pretty good

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

I don't even know what you do with "are Russian helicopters real?"

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013
the ka 52 is a very pretty helicopter, tho I am also a big fan of the t129 atak

the t929 looks kinda neat too we'll see how that goes

PoontifexMacksimus
Feb 14, 2012

Frosted Flake posted:

Did you guys read the books by the Soviet dissident that the fall of the USSR was a ruse and one day there would be a coup to reinstall 2SSR, just like that Simpsons episode?

NEW LIES FOR OLD: The Communist Strategy of Deception and Disinformation

and

The Perestroika Deception: The world's slide towards the 'Second October Revolution' ['Weltoktober']

The late 80’s early 90’s was so fuckin funny.

“The Perestroika Deception' explains the devious secret intent behind the Leninist strategy which the 'former' Communists are pursuing under cover of fake 'reform' and 'progress towards democracy'. The immediate strategic objective is 'convergence' with the West - on their terms, not ours. The ultimate objective is Lenin's: replacement of nation states with collective regional governments as building blocks of the world revolution.”

That would have been pretty cool, if it happened. Shame.

ItohRespectArmy
Sep 11, 2019

Cutest In The World, Six Time DDT Ironheavymetalweight champion, Two Time International Princess champion, winner of two tournaments, a Princess Tag Team champion, And a pretty good singer too!
"When I was an idol, I felt nothing every day but now that I'm a pro wrestler I'm in pain constantly!"

weird how wagner troops went from "prisoners with only shovels charging like zombies" to "russias best trained troops" over 24 hours.

Delta-Wye
Sep 29, 2005

ItohRespectArmy posted:

weird how wagner troops went from "prisoners with only shovels charging like zombies" to "russias best trained troops" over 24 hours.
youve gotta be willing to shift your paradigms rhetorical focus in this fast paced world

OctaMurk
Jun 21, 2013

ItohRespectArmy posted:

weird how wagner troops went from "prisoners with only shovels charging like zombies" to "russias best trained troops" over 24 hours.

you get really good at fightin when u gotra fite with just shovels against machinegunners, duh

Frosted Flake
Sep 13, 2011

Semper Shitpost Ubique

Oh there it is,

Adbot
ADBOT LOVES YOU

ItohRespectArmy
Sep 11, 2019

Cutest In The World, Six Time DDT Ironheavymetalweight champion, Two Time International Princess champion, winner of two tournaments, a Princess Tag Team champion, And a pretty good singer too!
"When I was an idol, I felt nothing every day but now that I'm a pro wrestler I'm in pain constantly!"

im sure we'll get some big reports about the ukranian counteroffensive soon, all that chaos should be all our brave supersoldiers need to take those defensive lines and march on moscow

slava ukrani

  • 1
  • 2
  • 3
  • 4
  • 5
  • Post
  • Reply