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Jun 26, 2023 20:19
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EorayMel posted:Still laughing at Putin claiming the bystanders taking pictures at Rostov supported the constitutional order Not just taking pictures, some of those scenes looked like adoring crowds
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Jun 26, 2023 20:19
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Splorange posted:It was all a CIA plot. Time to purge EVERYONE! All I care about is that all three bigs are making separate statements in separate places at non coordinated times about how everyone is pals now. Where’s the photo of everyone shaking hands (not smiling because in glorious ROSSIYA only mental defectives smile). Who was the dude in the thread saying Boyar Z will outlive Putin? I may take that action.
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Jun 26, 2023 20:20
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for the new page, the speech can be summed up as thisquote:A short summary of Putin's speech: "Prigozhin is an enemy and a traitor, the Wagnerites are lost souls, they can return and sign a contract with the Moscow Region, the rebellion would have been won anyway."
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Jun 26, 2023 20:21
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HonorableTB posted:for the new page, the speech can be summed up as this This is great for Putin.
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Jun 26, 2023 20:21
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HonorableTB posted:its funny that putin had to give this speech at all. can you loving imagine joe biden going on national tv and saying "the people handing out water and food to Blackwater mercenaries in the streets of Dallas definitely supported our constitutional order" So what happens next is purges, purges and maybe some purges at MoD, and in the meanwhile the war in Ukraine keeps going as it has before, but with without any of the Wagner or Wagner-aligned veterans?
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Jun 26, 2023 20:21
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Oh and Prigozhin says hi everybody
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Jun 26, 2023 20:22
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Der Kyhe posted:So what happens next is purges, purges and maybe some purges at MoD, and in the meanwhile the war in Ukraine keeps going as it has before, but with without any of the Wagner or Wagner-aligned veterans? its already happening, there is a video going around lots of social media showing loyalist VDV executing another paratrooper who supported the coup. https://twitter.com/wartranslated/status/1673410921811570695?s=20
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Jun 26, 2023 20:23
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CommieGIR posted:And if the ZPP reactors had been turned back on, it would be externally verifiable. The IAEA is monitoring the situation and have seen no indications of the reactors going critical again (critical meaning actively fissioning for those not in the know). Its hard to hide a reactor that is operating, they generate tons of heat/steam. The plant has been in cold shutdown since September, except for one unit, which was left in warm shutdown so it could be used for district heating next winter. When the dam blew they shut it down too. So there's one unit hotter than the others. e: source: https://amp.theguardian.com/world/2023/jun/06/nova-kakhovka-ukraine-dam-collapse-zaporizhzhia-nuclear-plant-iaea spankmeister fucked around with this message at 20:26 on Jun 26, 2023 |
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Jun 26, 2023 20:24
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What does Belarus get out of this deal?
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Jun 26, 2023 20:26
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HonorableTB posted:its already happening, there is a video going around lots of social media showing loyalist VDV executing another paratrooper who supported the coup. If Prigozhin isn't killed by Putin, he will be killed by his own men for hanging them out to dry like that.
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Jun 26, 2023 20:26
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Yeah it would seem this new ZNPP explosion news is either bullshit or not happening yet .
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Jun 26, 2023 20:26
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BoldFace posted:What does Belarus get out of this deal? Jack and poo poo. The question is, what does Lukasjenko get out of this?
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Jun 26, 2023 20:27
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BoldFace posted:What does Belarus get out of this deal? A new coach for their army gymnastics propaganda videos!
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Jun 26, 2023 20:28
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BoldFace posted:What does Belarus get out of this deal? A hotdog stand
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Jun 26, 2023 20:29
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WAR CRIME GIGOLO posted:Yeah it would seem this new ZNPP explosion news is either bullshit or not happening yet . It would be beyond bad if the ZNPP blew up so I'm fine with this one remaining a rumor
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Jun 26, 2023 20:31
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mobby_6kl posted:A hotdog stand A hot dog friend 
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Jun 26, 2023 20:31
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None of this is making any sense at all. Prigozhin folded like a wet blanket for a completely bullshit deal. WTF even was the point of this in the first place?
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Jun 26, 2023 20:31
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I have significant hope Luka says something he shouldn't during his comments at least.
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Jun 26, 2023 20:34
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HonorableTB posted:its funny that putin had to give this speech at all. can you loving imagine joe biden going on national tv and saying "the people handing out water and food to Blackwater mercenaries in the streets of Dallas definitely supported our constitutional order" “We let Blackwater take Dallas and Nashville because frankly they suck. Anyway, if any Blackwater solders want to join the Marine Corps hey man come on down we would love to have ya.” “Everyone in the Knoxville Department of Public Works who tore up I-40 and parked their garbage trucks to block the exits is getting the Congressional Medal of Honor.” “Blackwater listen up! Join us or be sent to Manitoba, it’s not cool. Don’t be deceived by Guy Fieri and his punk rear end Flavortown elite. Fieri tricked you, there is no ‘hella boss sandwich’ waiting for you, support the constitutional order like everyone in Texas chantinf Let’s Go Brandon and giving bouquets and BBQ sandwiches to you.” Give me the UNDER for Putin holding on please.
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Jun 26, 2023 20:34
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HonorableTB posted:It would be beyond bad if the ZNPP blew up so I'm fine with this one remaining a rumor Same. And at this point, I think Putin knows deep down that, unlike the dam, blowing up a nuclear plant will likely just solidify the EU and NATO. Right now its just a hostage. CommieGIR fucked around with this message at 20:39 on Jun 26, 2023 |
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Jun 26, 2023 20:34
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Aramis posted:None of this is making any sense at all. Prigozhin folded like a wet blanket for a completely bullshit deal. WTF even was the point of this in the first place? Not getting killed on a highway embankment in an airstrike outside Moscow, most likely. Or in a firefight in Rostov city center.
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Jun 26, 2023 20:35
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Splorange posted:Jack and poo poo. The question is, what does Lukasjenko get out of this? What does Smithers get from Mister Burns
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Jun 26, 2023 20:35
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Nieuw Amsterdam posted:What does Smithers get from Mister Burns I don't think Luka lives putin like Smithers loves mr burns.
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Jun 26, 2023 20:36
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Der Kyhe posted:Not getting killed on a highway embankment in an airstrike outside Moscow, most likely. Clearly, but I meant why bother with the rebellion in the first place. It seemingly fizzled out at the absolute first sign of trouble and accomplished literally nothing.
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Jun 26, 2023 20:39
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HonorableTB posted:It would be beyond bad if the ZNPP blew up so I'm fine with this one remaining a rumor Eh, the dam breaching was probably way worse tbh.
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Jun 26, 2023 20:39
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Aramis posted:Clearly, but I meant why bother with the rebellion in the first place. It seemingly fizzled out at the absolute first sign of trouble and accomplished literally nothing. I mean, I wouldn't claim that showing how absolutely weak Russia is is 'nothing'. But it certainly didn't achieve its stated goals. Randarkman posted:Eh, the dam breaching was probably way worse tbh. As far as impact, for sure. The dam wiped out a lot more than even a major radionuclide release might impact.
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Jun 26, 2023 20:39
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Aramis posted:Clearly, but I meant why bother with the rebellion in the first place. It seemingly fizzled out at the absolute first sign of trouble and accomplished literally nothing. MoD was going to take all his soldiers starting July 1st, I believe. What's a warlord without his soldiers? My guess is the "deal" was in all likelihood a ceasefire for both sides to buy time. Prigo didn't get the support he was hoping for, and Putin didn't want Wager to march on Moscow, so they both accepted a ceasefire to regroup. Now Prigo is in Belarus with at least some of his army and Putin is probably instructing all his spies to get this man some tea.
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Jun 26, 2023 20:42
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Aramis posted:Clearly, but I meant why bother with the rebellion in the first place. It seemingly fizzled out at the absolute first sign of trouble and accomplished literally nothing.  They made it pretty close to moscow, shot down a decent chunk of the air force on the way, and it looked like some rosgvardia goons with AKs wouldn't be able to stop them. But it's hard to say what the real balance of power was just form the poo poo that got posted on twitter so maybe he realized there's no way he'll get anything out of it.
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Jun 26, 2023 20:42
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Randarkman posted:Eh, the dam breaching was probably way worse tbh. its not an either/or, its an additive or static. they already had the dam breach and suffered/continue suffering from it. this would add a nuclear catastrophe on top of that. the dam breach doesnt unhappen if the plant blows up. for ukraine it only gets worse and depending on the severity of an explosion, radioactive contamination would be an issue that could affect surrounding countries just like Chernobyl did (in terms of rad contamination and fallout dispersal patterns.) https://twitter.com/NOELreports/status/1673416535602262028?s=20 HonorableTB fucked around with this message at 20:48 on Jun 26, 2023 |
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Jun 26, 2023 20:44
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Splorange posted:Jack and poo poo. The question is, what does Lukasjenko get out of this? What he always wants, validation by his crush Putin that he's smart and handsome man. Also if he's a good enough boy, maybe a promotion to colonel in the Soviet Army he's been waiting on. Oscar Wilde Bunch fucked around with this message at 20:49 on Jun 26, 2023 |
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Jun 26, 2023 20:45
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HonorableTB posted:its not an either/or, its an additive or static. they already had the dam breach and suffered/continue suffering from it. this would add a nuclear catastrophe on top of that. the dam breach doesnt unhappen if the plant blows up. for ukraine it only gets worse and depending on the severity of an explosion, radioactive contamination would be an issue that could affect surrounding countries just like Chernobyl did (in terms of rad contamination and fallout dispersal patterns.) More simply, anything military involving the word "nuclear" gets special treatment because it runs the (even ever so slight) risk of interacting with nuclear military doctrines. The measurable impact of the actions are meaningless in the face of abysmally low risk-tolerance in that general area.
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Jun 26, 2023 20:50
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but Russia is winning guys, don't get it twisted. They're winning.
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Jun 26, 2023 20:52
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This press conference really did nothing but further muddy the waters. Amazing. Strong leadership.
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Jun 26, 2023 20:53
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Aramis posted:Clearly, but I meant why bother with the rebellion in the first place. It seemingly fizzled out at the absolute first sign of trouble and accomplished literally nothing. He probably expected a lot more defections and support from the proper military. The one option that tracks with everything that happened is that he had deals in place to bribe a lot more than his column of 8k Wagnerites, and then when he set out on his glory ride everyone else just failed to show up. Then he's stone's throw away from Moscow, which he can clearly take because there's nothing but riot cops between him and Kremlin, but without greater support that doesn't mean winning, it just means he gets to die in the ruins of Kremlin. So at that point he negotiates, because he still has "I will spare you the humiliation of losing your capital" card to negotiate with, and if he went any further he wouldn't even have that.
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Jun 26, 2023 20:53
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Toxic Mental posted:but Russia is winning guys, don't get it twisted. They're winning. So much that they're tired of winning 
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Jun 26, 2023 20:54
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Aramis posted:Clearly, but I meant why bother with the rebellion in the first place. It seemingly fizzled out at the absolute first sign of trouble and accomplished literally nothing. Well Wagner did shoot down seven totally easily replaceable Russian aircraft during the coup attempt so there's that.
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Jun 26, 2023 20:56
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fatherboxx posted:doesnt have the dawg in him It's mostly this, at the end of the day
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Jun 26, 2023 20:57
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Has he ever spoken so disrespectfully of his President? Is this a test to see how much power Putin has lost over the weekend? Or is he tired of living and looking for a new, exiting and very short career as high-rise window inspector? Ah, he's retired and no longer in government. He's part of a social movement that wants Russia to war harder in Ukraine. Still won't save him. Oligarch Sergei Protosenya and his family were murdered in Spain in 2022. Putin holds a grudge way better than he holds his diarrhea. RBA-Wintrow fucked around with this message at 21:02 on Jun 26, 2023 |
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Jun 26, 2023 20:57
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the fact that six figgy priggy is even still alive tells me with 100% certainty that this was all just a honeypot
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Jun 26, 2023 20:57
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