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duodenum
Sep 18, 2005



edit: cursed page snipe.

duodenum fucked around with this message at 02:38 on Jun 26, 2023

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Kazinsal
Dec 13, 2011

Baron von Eevl posted:

Some day when you've got gently caress you money you can look at semihollow ricks and casinos and thinlines to your heart's cotent. And the nice thing is you don't have to worry about being one of those isolated rich people like notch because your Sweetwater rep will call you all the fuckin time.

winning the lottery and moving to the states so jeff from sweetwater will be my friend

TheMightyBoops
Nov 1, 2016

landgrabber posted:

bold of you to assume a transsexual who comes from poverty will ever have gently caress you money

You can get a non American Casino for relatively cheap; I’m still glad I got an Artcore though.

Edit: I still want a Casino for P90s though someday. Also I like the headstock.

trashy owl
Aug 23, 2017

landgrabber posted:

bold of you to assume a transsexual who comes from poverty will ever have gently caress you money

we exist and get our epiphones run through the plek, i am here to tell you.

well maybe not gently caress you money but "buying an epiphone sg modern figured and getting it run through the plek and setup will not impact my ability to keep a roof overhead and food in the fridge", at least.

Verman
Jul 4, 2005
Third time is a charm right?


God I love the hot rod. Need to get rid of the strat and the little vox amp, it's getting crowded.

mewse
May 2, 2006

mewse posted:

Thanks this helps a lot. I'm pretty sure I soldered the output wire correctly to the 5 way switch but ground might be shonky. I hope the pickup covers I put on didn't damage one of those tiny magnet wires, but I'll have to take a look.

Follow up: my problem with quiet middle pickup seems to have resolved itself. I think some of the foil shielding on the pickguard was touching the post of the 5-way switch and muting positions 2,3,4 - I worked it back and forth a few times and middle pickup sounds normal relative to neck/bridge now.

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!
For those who have taken lessons, for how long did you do it? I've had lessons for about 14 months now, and I think its helped my technique, but I feel we've moved from song to song so quickly that the songs themselves don't really stick.

What I'd like to do is wrap it up after a couple more tracks and dig into the guts of the songs I enjoy most so I know them inside out. After a bit of that with personal study, I'd maybe like to move onto a more theory focused teacher. I know a little, but just enough to be dangerous.

TEMPLE GRANDIN OS
Dec 10, 2003

...blyat
I quit for a couple reasons

1 I moved

2 I'm not focused enough on practicing to make lessons worthwhile it was basically just hanging out since I never came in with ideas or questions

3 I was skipping at least 1 or 2 a month

If I can get a routine in place and figure out for myself what I know and what I don't know then I can see value in lessons for myself again

a.p. dent
Oct 24, 2005
finally got this recording from music camp, of my song "In the Buds"!

https://voca.ro/1ndtDzhzZcN1

this is from "Band-in-a-box" where you get to play your song with a bunch of extremely good session musicians. this was done in 20 minutes, start to finish. recording quality isn't great, but the experience was truly one of the coolest things ever. i'm supposed to give credit to "Miles of Music" for it, so there it is!

for comparison, here's my solo recording: https://soundcloud.com/user-656458997/in-the-buds

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
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Disco Pope posted:

For those who have taken lessons, for how long did you do it? I've had lessons for about 14 months now, and I think its helped my technique, but I feel we've moved from song to song so quickly that the songs themselves don't really stick.

What I'd like to do is wrap it up after a couple more tracks and dig into the guts of the songs I enjoy most so I know them inside out. After a bit of that with personal study, I'd maybe like to move onto a more theory focused teacher. I know a little, but just enough to be dangerous.

I took lessons for a little over 4 years when I first started to play, lessons would be half learning techniques/theory and jamming through them, and half me bringing in a song and the teacher working it out and teaching it to me. Sometimes the teacher would have a song they wanted me to play to reinforce a lesson and we'd do that song instead. We didn't do crazy in-depth stuff with learning the songs, usually just the chord structure and a few specific parts that stood out. I don't really remember any of the songs in great depth from that time, but it was also 20+ years ago. I eventually stopped because I graduated highschool. In college I took theory and composition classes and did one year of college-level guitar instruction (which was pretty much entirely learning to sight-read) and a few terms of ensemble play. I don't know how I scraped by with sight-reading but that skill is entirely gone.

I'm not a guitarist who goes out to learn a song inside and out, I don't play in cover bands and when my own bands have covered a song my goal was always more to make it workable with what we do rather than duplicate a recording someone else did. I don't really see the value in reproducing someone else's work except as a learning tool for yourself. If there's a specific part I'm interested in I'll look that up or figure it out and try to understand what about it works, but most of the time when I get the itch to learn a song I'm learning the basic chord structure and then working something out from there on my own.

Harton
Jun 13, 2001

Hell yeah basic chord structure buddy

Disco Pope
Dec 6, 2004

Top Class!

Baron von Eevl posted:

I took lessons for a little over 4 years when I first started to play, lessons would be half learning techniques/theory and jamming through them, and half me bringing in a song and the teacher working it out and teaching it to me. Sometimes the teacher would have a song they wanted me to play to reinforce a lesson and we'd do that song instead. We didn't do crazy in-depth stuff with learning the songs, usually just the chord structure and a few specific parts that stood out. I don't really remember any of the songs in great depth from that time, but it was also 20+ years ago. I eventually stopped because I graduated highschool. In college I took theory and composition classes and did one year of college-level guitar instruction (which was pretty much entirely learning to sight-read) and a few terms of ensemble play. I don't know how I scraped by with sight-reading but that skill is entirely gone.

I'm not a guitarist who goes out to learn a song inside and out, I don't play in cover bands and when my own bands have covered a song my goal was always more to make it workable with what we do rather than duplicate a recording someone else did. I don't really see the value in reproducing someone else's work except as a learning tool for yourself. If there's a specific part I'm interested in I'll look that up or figure it out and try to understand what about it works, but most of the time when I get the itch to learn a song I'm learning the basic chord structure and then working something out from there on my own.

Thanks. I think I'm feeling a little bad about moving on from this guy because he's a nice dude, but I think I've outgrown his approach a little.

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



gregday posted:

Really considering an Epiphone ES-339 in Pelham blue, but good god I already have 3 blue guitars.

theres this gibson custom es339 at my local shop for $2500 for a couple months now. at first I thought that's crazy low for a custom but then saw some for similar on reverb. I think it's just not terribly popular

i kinda feel like the es339 is a weird choice over just getting a les paul or just getting a 335. but then again the 335 does seem comically large, so if it could be smaller that would be great, but ive heard the 339 doesn't sound the same.

some of those 335 cherry finishes are so beautiful irl tho, I've almost pulled the trigger on a cherry finish more than once, but yeah, went with some other stuff. I wish my sg cherry looked anywhere near as good as some of the newer 335's i saw recently

ethanol fucked around with this message at 01:42 on Jun 27, 2023

Thumposaurus
Jul 24, 2007


I've posted this before but 335 vs 339 body size.

I have an anti-typical goon body skinny with noodle arms and the 339 is more comfortable for me. I do want to get a bigsby for the 335 eventually just so they are a little more different from each other.

fullroundaction
Apr 20, 2007

Drink beer every day
Got turned on to the Ampknob sims via a Youtube demo and I like the gimmick a lot. 3 different 5150s, no settings (other than a gain knob) and they're supposed to sit perfectly in a mix right out of the box. Pretty killer and a 2 week free trial.

https://bogrendigital.com/pages/ampknob-bdh-bundle

Tried it out for the silly weekly videos I do where my friends pick the best metal riffs of the year if you want to hear it in a lovely bedroom mix:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaVFxIh5eXw

Wowporn
May 31, 2012

HarumphHarumphHarumph
I swapped my 339 sized Gretsch streamliner for a full Epi 335 and I liked that the larger body got rid of the neck dive, but also I am a not huge but not small person so the size feels okay on me. I also like the sound a lot more but that is likely due to the woody midsy sound the Gibson-style humbuckers are good for

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

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Lessons are good and really helpful, especially for the first few years until you gain your footing.

I know this gets a lot harder when you're not in high school but the biggest steps in learning is if you join a band where all of you want to push what you can do, individually and collectively. It doesn't usually make a good band unless the chemistry is just right, but if you have 3-5 people in a room and each of you has a huge chip on your shoulder and is desperate to prove something to the others, and you're individually accountable to a few other people, it can be a hell of a motivator. You're constantly trying to push yourself both to perfect what you can do and also to try new things, it gets you used to lateral thinking in terms of music and trying to surprise the others. Spite and desperation.

It's usually just a miserable toxic mess where you've grown a ton as musician while being miserable as a person and you will never want to work with those people again, but when it does work you get Revolver or Raw Power.

TheMightyBoops
Nov 1, 2016

Wowporn posted:

I swapped my 339 sized Gretsch streamliner for a full Epi 335 and I liked that the larger body got rid of the neck dive, but also I am a not huge but not small person so the size feels okay on me. I also like the sound a lot more but that is likely due to the woody midsy sound the Gibson-style humbuckers are good for

I have an already small archtop and that feels just barely too big. I think I’m going to get an acoustic at some point and a parlor guitar will solve the issue that I’m god drat tiny.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


I’ve been thinkin’ about my lessons too.

I worry that my teacher is too high level for me. He speaks a lot about high-level music theory concepts that do interest me, but that I can’t speak meaningfully about yet - and certainly not at the speed he does. And I might be projecting and/or just being my usual anxious self here, but I think he gets frustrated at how slow I am to recognize the chords he’s playing, replicate his fingering, and think at a higher level as opposed to a lower one (i.e. bust out a V7 or whatever for any particular root instead of fumbling around for the open C chord).

He really knows his poo poo, and he’s a phenomenal resource for experienced guitarists and musical college students, so I don’t mean to downplay him or anything. I just wish this wasn’t the equivalent of discussing Camus with a toddler :(

Harton
Jun 13, 2001

I don’t think I learn fast enough for a teacher to be useful

Harton
Jun 13, 2001

Like I could take a lesson and then want to work on that for 2 months.

dxt
Mar 27, 2004
METAL DISCHARGE
I took "lessons" from a friend of mine where I'd come over with a 6 pack and he'd show me things on guitar while we drank it. Worked out pretty well, he helped my technique and taught me some scales/songs until I got good enough that we ended up starting a band together.

darkwasthenight
Jan 7, 2011

GENE TRAITOR

Harton posted:

Like I could take a lesson and then want to work on that for 2 months.

The teacher won't mind if you want to keep going over it. Saves them working out a new lesson if nothing else!

quote:

Student goes to guitar teacher and says "I would like to learn bass". Guitar teacher says "Okay, here's your first lesson. This note is an A; play it four beats to a bar until you're comfortable and come back next week."

Next week he comes back and the teacher says "Okay, this is D. Play A four times and then D four times. Keep repeating it and come back next week."

Week three the teacher says "This is an E. Play A, D, and E and keep repeating round until you can do it in your sleep."

Week four the student doesn't bother turning up. Teacher thinks it's a shame but bass isn't for everybody. A month after that the teacher sees the student walking down the street and goes over to speak to them.

"Hey, how come you stopped lessons? You were doing really well!"

"Oh, you know I really wanted to keep coming but my schedule is crazy right now. I'm just getting so many gigs..."

Harton
Jun 13, 2001

Lmao

Harton
Jun 13, 2001

That’s all my first bass player ever did lmao

Harton
Jun 13, 2001

We played like a hundred shows over the years too

Armacham
Mar 3, 2007

Then brothers in war, to the skirmish must we hence! Shall we hence?
Sid Vicious couldn't even do that much lmao

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
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Yeah, Sid was just a friend that they paid to show up and hold a bass that usually wasn't plugged in.

muike
Mar 16, 2011

ガチムチ セブン

fullroundaction posted:

Got turned on to the Ampknob sims via a Youtube demo and I like the gimmick a lot. 3 different 5150s, no settings (other than a gain knob) and they're supposed to sit perfectly in a mix right out of the box. Pretty killer and a 2 week free trial.

https://bogrendigital.com/pages/ampknob-bdh-bundle

Tried it out for the silly weekly videos I do where my friends pick the best metal riffs of the year if you want to hear it in a lovely bedroom mix:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CaVFxIh5eXw

like this man

Jyrraeth
Aug 1, 2008

I love this dino
SOOOO MUCH

I wanna get back into lessons eventually but there is too much going on in my life. That said I did a whole bunch of them as a kid and I dunno if this stuff if available for adults. I remember having regular recitals + the rock instruments (not me I was uncool) formed little bands and played covers. The teachers coordinated the everything else, but it does exist in the world. (The teachers also covered the instruments that had less students, too, so lots of bored teachers on drums.)

I took lessons for a couple weeks in Jan-Feb 2020 and it was such a weird experience being an adult and having control over stuff and the teacher chatting with me as an equal? Wack. Did learn a lot in the time. I wanted to focus on loosening up and playing lots of dumb rock and metal because I get too stuck in chords/etc when I don't actually want to play music that takes advantage of them. Gotta get that chugga chugga going, don't need to know my rootless movable major 7 shapes (yet).

widefault
Mar 16, 2009




~1980 Hondo HD910B, D being for the factory DiMarzios, B because it's black. Or was



Stripped and refinished natural, and done well. Bridge replaced, pickup rings replaced, tuners replaced. Possibly needs a new nut, slots are a little deep and also sticky. Plays good otherwise, sounds great. That's now 7 DiMarzio equipped Hondos because I can't stop myself when I see one cheap.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


Coming from touching synths, I can’t help but miss a lot of the weird poo poo I used to do with synths. Guitars don’t have nearly as much or as interesting modulation options. Chorus, flanger, phaser, and delay are all here, and you can get like 10 different flavors of distortion, but man what I wouldn’t give for a filter envelope, or a wavefolder, or gated plate reverb, or a mod matrix, or something off-the-wall like an FM operator.

Granted half the fun of synths is sequencing volt-per-octave, but still.

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
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Many of those are available as pedals, although some are expensive.

edit poo poo if you were using physical synths instead of softsynths you could just plug your guitar into the filter section of a synth and use the guitar as the oscillator.

Pollyanna
Mar 5, 2005

Milk's on them.


I just need to finally DIY those modules I’ve been putting off. :v:

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

i'm going to be real with you all i have tried guitar rig, bias, and the neural dsp stuff, with all sorts of IRs, and i STILL haven't gotten a sound out i like. frustrating.

and it always introduces latency

landgrabber
Sep 13, 2015

also i can't remember if anyone here listens to them but i saw the punk band Joyce Manor last night and it was the best show i've been to

Baron von Eevl
Jan 24, 2005

WHITE NOISE
GENERATOR

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Oh hell yeah jhs just did a video about the wasabi pedals, my secret weapon just fuckin skyrocketed in value if I ever need to sell.

ethanol
Jul 13, 2007



landgrabber posted:

i'm going to be real with you all i have tried guitar rig, bias, and the neural dsp stuff, with all sorts of IRs, and i STILL haven't gotten a sound out i like. frustrating.

and it always introduces latency
mac or pc? apple silcon is undetectable latency for me. my roundtrip is something like 10ms in logic

as for tone.. i dunno. im pretty happy with the helix. Takes a lot of learning on YouTube and fiddling though.

Pollyanna posted:

Coming from touching synths, I can’t help but miss a lot of the weird poo poo I used to do with synths. Guitars don’t have nearly as much or as interesting modulation options. Chorus, flanger, phaser, and delay are all here, and you can get like 10 different flavors of distortion, but man what I wouldn’t give for a filter envelope, or a wavefolder, or gated plate reverb, or a mod matrix, or something off-the-wall like an FM operator.

Granted half the fun of synths is sequencing volt-per-octave, but still.

i started going down guitar synth road but instead i bought a midi controller for about $100 and have been doing some really fun stuff in logic. feels nice to be able to add other instruments. can't only rely on guitar

The Leck
Feb 27, 2001

Baron von Eevl posted:

Oh hell yeah jhs just did a video about the wasabi pedals, my secret weapon just fuckin skyrocketed in value if I ever need to sell.

What was I thinking selling mine like 10 years ago??

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ColdPie
Jun 9, 2006

Tone is for suckers, play acoustic imo

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