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remote jobs have existed for 25 years the goog and frankly all the tech majors arent having it but thats because theyre tech majors, not cuz the jobs arent there i know youre burnt to hell but that manichaeism is a symptom of the burnout
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Jun 26, 2023 18:46
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There’s way more of them now than pre pandemic too. A lot of low overhead services companies love it. I know of megacorps who have carved out WFH spots just for IT because it’s way easier to find talent nationally then it is adjacent to a physical location. And lots of healthy businesses are shutting down their offices in favor of WFH for nearly their whole workforces. There are also other organizations going the other way and I’m sure people are going to be left out cause the same # of opportunities just won’t be there
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Jun 26, 2023 19:38
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Pollyanna posted:remote jobs don’t exist because i don’t believe any company corporation or business exists that actually trusts an employee they can’t measure via butt-in-chair im working a remote job right now!!!
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Pollyanna posted:they all think we’re lazy slackers is this not true? 
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Jun 26, 2023 19:47
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Mr. Crow posted:whats everyone using to search for remote jobs these days? Someone recommended this a while back. https://himalayas.app/
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Jun 26, 2023 20:05
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Pollyanna posted:remote jobs don’t exist because i don’t believe any company corporation or business exists that actually trusts an employee they can’t measure via butt-in-chair believe what you want, they exist Mr. Crow posted:im working a remote job right now!!! i’m on vacation but i will return to a remote job too!
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Jun 26, 2023 20:08
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something job hunting recently has taught me is that there are a dozen companies named something like blorp, who provide powerful solutions for our digital age
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Jun 26, 2023 20:08
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bob dobbs is dead posted:remote jobs have existed for 25 years yeah this my dad, who was never a computer toucher, became “remote” when his company shut down the office they had in my state and wanted everyone to relocate to texas in like 2001 he said “nah im good” and they let him expense a (albeit lovely) single office space and set him up with a pc and an isdn line
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Jun 26, 2023 20:15
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bob dobbs is dead posted:remote jobs have existed for 25 years i had a fully remote job for 8 years back in the late 90s early 00s
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Jun 26, 2023 20:32
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I’m interviewing for a remote position with a giant European conglomerate to run their cloud platform team for 200 base/50k yearly bonus. I easy applied on LI yesterday and had the recruiter screen today. If that’s the kinda work you’re looking for it’s very nice
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Jun 26, 2023 22:42
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I'm getting AZ-104 this summer hopefully. How do I parlay that + 10 years of healthcare desktop (lol) experience into a job where I don't have to get in a car every single day? I just know an experience gate is waiting behind this education gate. Do I have to spend years doing contract work to have a chance?
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skooma512 posted:I'm getting AZ-104 this summer hopefully. How do I parlay that + 10 years of healthcare desktop (lol) experience into a job where I don't have to get in a car every single day? as mentioned above, a lot of places (including state and federal inside America) are hiring remotely right now. i know for a fact that the city of portland is/was looking for a fully remote azure sysadmin as recent as two months ago. insofar as an experience gate goes.. i think ten years of experience even in support with progressively more complex responsibilities would be a great talking point that shows growth in an interview good luck with your exam! Pollyanna posted:they all think we’re lazy slackers 
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Jun 26, 2023 22:56
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dioxazine posted:
I hope so. It always feels like unless I've been sitting at the desk downstairs and doing exactly that job for years already, it doesn't count. IT is ultimately about delivering on projects and customer service, but too often it's "you need direct experience in doing this task in the Thingmaster 6000. Experience in TM4000 is not applicable, doing this task in another context is not applicable"
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Jun 26, 2023 23:47
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I have a call with an internal recruiter in a few days. The job posting had a salary range associated with it. When they ask my salary expectations, is it reasonable to just say the number at the top of that range back? Or do I need to cut a few thousand from my number to not come off like a prick? I am only interested if they actually are willing to pay the top end of that salary range, so I'm just trying to find the best way to say that number given they have already listed the range. If that number is unreasonable, I won't take the job, but I would like to be as tactful as is appropriate
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skooma512 posted:I'm getting AZ-104 this summer hopefully. How do I parlay that + 10 years of healthcare desktop (lol) experience into a job where I don't have to get in a car every single day? Move somewhere with decent public transit. Helpful answer: sometimes you can acquire the experience by taking a job somewhere that's desperate. Honestly that probably means getting a remote job with no experience is tough -- you're competing against tons of applicants. Better to apply to the local place requiring in-office that can't get anyone to apply--then after a year start applying elsewhere.
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Jun 27, 2023 03:24
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"i've seen the range and im confident that we will be able to come to an agreement." or something about needing to find out more about the specifics - during the interview, probably - to give a number. like you can only refuse to say a number for so long, but you almost definitely have a while before you're at the breaking point
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Jun 27, 2023 03:25
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cheque_some posted:Helpful answer: sometimes you can acquire the experience by taking a job somewhere that's desperate. Honestly that probably means getting a remote job with no experience is tough -- you're competing against tons of applicants. Better to apply to the local place requiring in-office that can't get anyone to apply--then after a year start applying elsewhere. I don't disagree with this but you'll need to be very firm about your work/life boundaries if you take this approach. Depending on your personality it can be really hard to jump off a sinking ship after you've gotten to know some of the people on it.
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Jun 27, 2023 03:38
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Its a Rolex posted:I have a call with an internal recruiter in a few days. The job posting had a salary range associated with it. When they ask my salary expectations, is it reasonable to just say the number at the top of that range back? Or do I need to cut a few thousand from my number to not come off like a prick? I would answer above the top of the range (and not until late in the process). Achmed Jones' answer is good too but if you're not interested unless it's the max value, you're just wasting your own time if you ask for something lower. More broadly, you never need to cut a few thousand from your number to not come off like a prick. People tend to respect folks who negotiate and put their ask high, even if they can't always meet it.
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Truman Peyote posted:I would answer above the top of the range (and not until late in the process). Achmed Jones' answer is good too but if you're not interested unless it's the max value, you're just wasting your own time if you ask for something lower. yeah this. push off salary negotiations until they have decided they want you, then anchor high (like 10k over their max range?) so when they come back with "well, the best we can do is [max]" you can grumble a little bit and ask if they can make up for it with some stock or extra pto or whatever. if no, then you can still accept the top of their range sometimes they can alter the position to bump up a level to get you the number you want, but also sometimes they will refuse to get to the top of their band. in the latter case maybe you're better off exploring other options anyway
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Jun 27, 2023 08:13
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Achmed Jones posted:"i've seen the range and im confident that we will be able to come to an agreement." also be prepared to double down with something like “yes, I’m sure you’re aware of the market” because people will push back on this
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Jun 27, 2023 14:03
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something I’ve noticed more recently than before, on both sides of hiring/interviewing: some referral candidates acing technical rounds and getting rejected based on nebulous culture fit poo poo, while other referrals underperform in technicals and get a pass. starting to think there might be bias in hiring
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Jun 27, 2023 15:17
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The culture fit stuff has to go. I interviewed someone who took a four year break from IT to go to a yoga retreat (and wound up doing IT help desk work or something for the retreat people which is how it lasted that long, but it sounded pretty cool) and someone in the hiring process is talking about culture fit and I have a suspicion it’s because this dude was brave enough to put something like that on his resume vs. some bullshit about how he was the VP of IT for a yoga enterprise or something Edit: and to be clear they have relevant current experience for like the past half decade
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Jun 27, 2023 15:21
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ask the person chatting about it what a correct culture fit would look like and why they are sure they are one (maybe do not actually do this, depending on who they are)
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Jun 27, 2023 15:40
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missed it by a page but ive passed a couple drug tests one of them was even mine
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AWWNAW posted:something I’ve noticed more recently than before, on both sides of hiring/interviewing: some referral candidates acing technical rounds and getting rejected based on nebulous culture fit poo poo, while other referrals underperform in technicals and get a pass. starting to think there might be bias in hiring  unheard of
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AWWNAW posted:something I’ve noticed more recently than before, on both sides of hiring/interviewing: some referral candidates acing technical rounds and getting rejected based on nebulous culture fit poo poo, while other referrals underperform in technicals and get a pass. starting to think there might be bias in hiring I'm interviewing a candidate this week who's been shuttling around our pipeline / kept warm for over a month. I love her resume and from what I've heard she's been put through an extremely rigorous tech test and passed so far. But she's got a big gap on her resume for dropping out for a family health thing and there was some nebulous question raised about her communication ability. Im trying to go into the interview with a fair and open mind, but like, kinda dunno why we risked sitting on this so long and why no other company has snapped her up. Will see, though.
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it’s sexism op
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I bet the problem with her communication is that she isn't assertive enough and spends too much time trying to build a consensus
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Pollyanna posted:it’s sexism op
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CPColin posted:I bet the problem with her communication is that she isn't assertive enough and spends too much time trying to build a consensus but not so assertive that she becomes aggressive and difficult to work with!!! then we might have to fire her lol!!!! :/
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Please evaluate how much credence you give to a complaint about communication that you’ve described as nebulous.
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Jun 27, 2023 17:23
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Yep. I'm very much on this same wavelength here, but I'm not the hiring manager so whatever i do needs to be persuasive and focus primarily on what evidence i can pull out of my interview with her. Have to be careful on how to phrase my opinion of what I've heard so far about other takes.
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working with ladies is the worst, they get all wound up over equal pay and then their uterus starts roaming around the office causing trouble, its just a mess frankly
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jemand posted:Yep. I'm very much on this same wavelength here, but I'm not the hiring manager so whatever i do needs to be persuasive and focus primarily on what evidence i can pull out of my interview with her. Have to be careful on how to phrase my opinion of what I've heard so far about other takes. "she's great, you guys are nuts."
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"She told me she thinks the average penis size is three inches so you're all good."
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in my experience, bad communication in an interview setting usually means "didn't understand what i was saying and I had trouble addressing that once it became obvious". if you see anyone in an interview go off in the wrong direction and have trouble reining them back in, thats a red flag as one hard-to-correct misunderstanding is pretty high statistically for a single hour session. I'd watch for situations where the candidate goes off with a faulty understanding and has trouble being reined in. If the candidate keeps up, and can push the conversation forward, I'd note them as strong counterexamples, which is important to combat a coworkers bad feedback especially if it's just a sexism thing.
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RokosCockatrice posted:in my experience, bad communication in an interview setting usually means "didn't understand what i was saying and I had trouble addressing that once it became obvious". if you see anyone in an interview go off in the wrong direction and have trouble reining them back in, thats a red flag as one hard-to-correct misunderstanding is pretty high statistically for a single hour session. In my experience it usually means their accent was too thick but ymmv
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you can't quote somebody in the edit grace period, thats so rude
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keep in mind that a company can reject you for any reason they want as long as they have an excuse to hide behind
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